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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:07 AM
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It Was a Good Idea at the Time (*'s trip)
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 12:16 AM by kskiska
(snip)

Bush aides are just as full of trepidation and foreboding. "It was a good idea at the time and now we're stuck with it," said one Bush administration official.

(snip)

At Buckingham Palace there is bewilderment and some resentment at the sheer scale of American security requests for the duration of Mr Bush's stay. The Palace knows how to do state visits. But there has never been one quite like this before.

"They wanted blast- and bullet-proofed windows," one senior courtier told the Telegraph. "They wanted strengthened curtains and strengthening to the walls of the President's suite and the other rooms that he would be spending time in during his two-day stay."

The proposal, which would have meant substantial building alterations, was firmly turned down by the Queen. But anxiety levels among the Bush security team continue to grow.

(snip)

The deteriorating relationship between the Palace and the President's security men has infuriated the Queen. When it is all over, a mighty row with the Prime Minister is on the cards.

more…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/11/16/nbush16.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/11/16/ixnewstop.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=19734
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:12 AM
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1. So he's gonna be a "compassionate conservative?"
This is going to be a good trip...on many levels.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:19 AM
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2. wow, this trip is already turning out just like I wanted it to!
It's already a BIG FAILURE.

Amazing......bush isn't the bubble boy. He is a guy who has entrapped himself in a prison. And he can whistle and lollygag about and make himself think all this is because he is sooooooooo important to the future of the world........but late at night...he knows he's in a prison of Rove and cheney's making.

I dare say...justice has been served. Not totally......but bush is getting at least SOME backlash for his satanic work.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:23 AM
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3. Well, at least he can enjoy his new toy while he's there
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 01:03 AM
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17. great site......thanks for the link.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 01:07 AM by E_Zapata
A bubble chimp toy.....nice.

Just need to change its little costume to prison stripes.......

LMAO......I am going through the cartoons...the one with ROVE with the lightly sketched 666 across is forehead is HILARIOUS!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:29 AM
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5. He doesn't know anything of the kind.
He knows he's President and nobody, damn it, is treating him like he should be treated. And boy oh boy are they gonna pay for that.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:34 AM
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11. late at night he doesn't know a f***ing thing
he's a moron through and through
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ThorsteinVeblen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:25 AM
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4. Anxiety levels among the Bush security team continue to grow
As well they should. People fear, loathe and hate the man in Britain. He is not welcome there. He shouldn't go.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:30 AM
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7. Yes, he should. Yes, he should.
C'mon, we gotta have SOME fun.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:41 AM
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14. If we just had a better president, this would never be an issue
:)

Too bad *.. you lose !!


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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:30 AM
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6. Well * has definitely gained notoriety. eom
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:31 AM
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8. Outrageous. They actually want to alter
Buckingham Palace!

(snip)

Buckingham Palace security pass-holders are being ordered to go through bomb checks for the first time. Some Palace staff who have had security clearance for 30 years are undergoing positive vetting again.

"The Queen will not have to wear a security badge. I think we know what she looks like," said one Palace official. "But it is getting to that level. It is quite ridiculous."

"The President's men seem obsessed with the idea of an airborne attack on the Palace," said another courtier. "Her Majesty takes the view that no amount of strengthening of windows and walls could protect the President in such an eventuality. Other political leaders have stayed at the Palace at difficult times in their careers but have not made such demands."

(snip)

What a power mad little egomanic! He should just stay in Crawford and play with his pigs!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:34 AM
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10. No he's bringing her along
OINK
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:39 AM
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12. Lol!
*snarf*:P
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:51 AM
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16. Yes, Elizabeth and Margaret stayed in the Palace during an aerial attack
It happened back in 1940 and wasknown as The Blitz.

Needless to say, Chimpy's never come anywhere near that close to incoming.

Think about it - Queen Elizabeth has more experience under enemy fire than Bush!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 09:20 AM
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28. Not to mention a flat out coward. Take a risk little boy
The soldiers fighting your oil wars don't have bullet-proof windows and drapes.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:34 AM
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9. so, why exactly are they "stuck with it"?
can't the shrub have another pretzel incident?
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 09:10 AM
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27. cancelling the trip would be letting the terrorists win.
as well as the citizenry of England.

can't have that.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:39 AM
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13. this article will send you to bed smiling
He has indeed created his own hell. Welcome nowhere, not even by our "strongest ally." I loved the parts about the panic and also the absurd requests (Black Hawk helicopter).


Cher
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:49 AM
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15. He's such a
"wanted" jerkoff...
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 01:33 AM
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18. Wolf0witz's experience...
in Iraq has got 'em spooked. Can't engage in terror brinksmanship and expect to live in glass houses!!!
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 01:58 AM
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19. Shut'em down UK!
If only we had more people with brains and guts in this country. Show the world what a fraud this piece of shit is. Don't let him out of the palace; nail that fucker to the wall!
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:58 AM
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20. Wouldn't that be something if he got arrested and detained, huh?
U.K. Bush's best buddy? Not anymore.

Then again it wouldn't change anything.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 03:51 AM
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21. somebody more clever than I should be able to finesse.......
something out of "bring em on," as it relates to this fiasco...

right?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:18 AM
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22. it's incredibly useless to our country that our leader inspires such hate
that he can't even travel. it's completely idiotic.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:50 AM
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23. why is this liberator so afraid?
ain't he just one tuff little rich boy !
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:36 AM
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24. Your Majesty, this is your chance...
When you meet the Toxic Texan in person... BARE YOUR BUM AT BUSH!

Or the article had another suggestion. You've got a few days to set it up. Just turn out all the lights in England and maybe he'll think no one's home and go spread his wonderfulness somewhere else.

But if you do let him in, remember my standing offer of US$138.62 if you'll KEEP his sorry ass over on your side of the pond. Surely you've got some brush somewhere around there that needs clearing. :-)
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:47 AM
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25. I'm hoping no one gets hurt...but the potential humiliation is
something I really look forward to....

:kick:

DemEx
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 07:07 AM
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26. Condi's comments from the article
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 07:18 AM by kayell
Condoleezza Rice, issued a forthright message to the protesters who will fill Trafalgar Square on Thursday:

"Protests are a part of our democratic heritage and our democratic privilege. But I hope the protesters remember that the causes for which the Prime Minister and the President have now become well known - in Afghanistan and Iraq - are finally getting those countries to the place that people might have the same privilege of protest. The world is far better off and freedom has been advanced by the destruction of regime."


And how are they doing that exactly? By shooting at Iraqi protestors. Perhaps they intend to try the same out on the Brits, just so they can have the same level of "privilege" of protest as the Iraqis.

Notice that word - privilege.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=privilege
1.a.A special advantage, immunity, permission, right, or benefit granted to or enjoyed by an individual, class, or caste. See Synonyms at right.

b. Such an advantage, immunity, or right held as a prerogative of status or rank, and exercised to the exclusion or detriment of others.

2.The principle of granting and maintaining a special right or immunity: a society based on privilege.
snip

In other words, it's granted to us, not a right. They give and they can take away.

You would think that somewhere in her education Condi would have managed to read the First Amendment. (and forgive me because I do not know the legal basis ensuring the right of protest in Britain, but quite sure it is a right, not a "privilege")
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 09:20 AM
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29. Please please please let a US news outlet carry this story
This is atrocious!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 09:21 AM
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30. It was a good idea at the time...just like the NY convention
I wonder how many times someone has had to say that line, "It was a good idea at the time"?
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 09:33 AM
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31. Wow....what a terrible mistake this is going to be.....the audacity of
this cabal to require so many security features...and Blair is a 2 faced puppet making the queen turn down all the security requests.

I hope this is televised. I would pay to see it!
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 10:05 AM
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32. Clinton's legacy is timeless...It's Clinton's fault...LOL!!! Love IT!!
This is so funny! I love how this is unfolding.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 10:11 AM
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33. "Palace upgrades contracted out to Halliburton, film at 11"
:evilgrin:


:hippie:
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Wendigo Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 11:02 AM
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34. The Ugly American comes to Buckingham Palace
A sweet bump for this one.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 02:41 PM
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36. Hi Wendigo!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 11:17 AM
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35. After all these well earned paranoia concerns......They don't learn!!!
Plain and simple the WORLD HATES BUSH, CHENEY and RUMMY

Oh well.....
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 07:52 AM
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37. That toothpaste shared by Bush and Blair
Which brand is it that makes them foam at the mouth?
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