'You're Lucky to Be Free' - Bush Tells Protesters

Sun 16 Nov 2003
10:02am (UK)
'You're Lucky to Be Free' - Bush Tells Protesters

By James Lyons, Political Correspondent, PA News


US President George W Bush today told anti-war campaigners they were lucky to be free to protest at his visit.

A series of demonstrations are planned to mark his state visit next week including a mass national rally.

The White House has insisted Mr Bush is “not phased” by the prospect.

And he had a message for those planning to turn out when he appeared on the BBC1 Breakfast with Frost programme.

“Freedom is a beautiful thing, I would first say, and it’s – aren’t you lucky to be in a country that encourages people to speak their mind?
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http://www.news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2183068
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Unfortunately it's a constant struggle against rethuglicans like Bush to keep our freedoms. We've already lost so many since he's been office.

"It's not over 'till Arnold gropes the fat lady" —Bill Press, on MSNBC

http://www.recallarnoldwatch.org

it was a long hard (and continuing) fight against people like bush*

You took the words right out of my mouth.

People died for that freedom. If he actually understood some of the speeches written for him, maybe he would understand. He'll be lucky if his neocon handlers don't martyr him to advance the PNAC.

I believe he loves the power trip killing gives him

until there can be some way to incarcerate him for his war crimes, and the other crimes, both legal and moral, that he has openly committed in the last three years.

Shameful

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If justice somehow prevails - he still will!

I'm still waiting for my so-called "freedom" to be fully operational again.

they're lucky their govt. is not allowing Bush's thugs to kill protestors with impunity.

of a 1000 years of struggle against men like George W. Bush.

The LIEberal Whore Press is even more disgusting.

No Doubt 19th Century Fox will ignore the demostrations and lie about how England LOVES der Führer!

They aren't going to be herded into "zones" like we are here in the US...

I read earlier this week that it will cost London taxpayers 4 million pounds to enforce a no-protester zone around the pResident, and that they were to keep protestors out of camera shots.
Link (edited to add link)

He's adamant to let the protests take place... this should be interesting!

shut down by the fascist Bush Regime.

except when segregated miles away from the action, behind fences and cops and whatnot. That ain't freedom, folks.

disobedience on a massive scale. They can't arrest and imprison us all... Anybody remember the sixties...

George and Ashcroft are waiting to declare citizens "enemy combatants" without rights.

And let's be clear. George WANTS the order given to shoot to kill protesters. He's probably been wanting that since the Vietnam War when he deserted TANG.

Tear gas was a cakewalk compared to what Bush will throw at us.

we crave? Civil disobedience does not have to be violent--learn from Gandhi.

Does that mean American's have to lay down and die because our so-called representatives (without public scrutiny or debate) passed unconstitutional legislation like the Patriot Act?

B.S.

:mad:

If American's prefer to avoid personal risk and inconvenience rather than confront encroaching totalitarianism, then they deserve to lose their sovereignty.

I for one will cross the line when, and if, it comes to that. I hope they put me on all their f'ing lists!

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the usual typos

It comes about by hard graft. Liberties are not given by the madmen in authority, they are taken.

Which is why there was a big anti-Bush rally in Sheffield while I was there at the weekend, because those who are protesting are against Bush & his ilke who think that they alone can confer liberty.

The * is also a symptom of a larger problem but that is a matter for another post

http://www.hermes-press.com/brainwash1.htm

Even intelligent people can be taken in by this brainwashing technology of paradoxical messaging. An example of this phenomenon is a current operation by the Advertising Council.

The Ad Council expresses its overall purpose in this way: "We marshall the volunteer forces of advertising agencies and media companies to affect positive social change." You can, in the example below, interpret "effect positive change" as "brainwash people into fearful submission."



One of the Council's current operations is called the "Campaign for Freedom." If you believe the Council,

"The initiative is designed to assist Americans during the war on terrorism through the development and distribution of timely and relevant public service messages. This first round of PSAs for the campaign has been created to celebrate our nation's freedom and remind Americans about the importance of freedom and the need to protect it for future generations."

"According to research, Americans are looking for messages that will inform, involve and inspire them during the war on terrorism. This inspirational campaign is advertising's gift to America on the occasion of its birthday, Independence Day." All of the ads conclude with the powerful tagline, "Freedom. Appreciate it. Cherish it. Protect it."



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The Ironic twist of the meaning of the 4th of July, People in London protesting the latest Imperial Powered George, but this time he is on the American side of the pond (sorry for the dark humor, you Brits, some of us over here are just as ticked off, if not more, of this indescribable and his minions)

so FU and all yours.

We tug the forelock to no one high or mighty or rich unlike you you little shit - haven't quite finished making this grand experiment into something cheap have you? Haven't completly shit the nest out.

If he's so unphased by protesters why the hell did they want to bring mini-guns to england? Is it too much to ask for a little courage? Just a little? Be something like a man for once in your damn life.

Sorry this kind of nimrod giberish he spouts makes me crazy.

I always enjoy the little WH lies the most. I really enjoy the fact that * has been in office for 3 years and his handlers STILL have to tell us things like this. It's all so very, very presidential. :-)

he's bringing his own Potemkin Village of over 700 staff members to keep him in his bubble.

Everyone else will be in the "exclusion zone." Don't you wonder who came up with that title?

But as ANY other U.S. president been more hated in the world? Were there protests on this scale EVER for any other president?

Might have been comparable.

Once bush the dictator burns the Constitution and imposes his rule, protestors won't be so lucky anymore.

bush has already swindled his way to eliminate several Amendments (yet he'll allow citizens to have assault weapons and other things, the 2nd Amendment would also be a valid concern in the fight against terror if the terrorists get their hands on such juicy weapons, thanks to the likes of * and others who support an Amendment which speaks only of a MILITIA, which we've got plenty of as it is (police, army, navy, air force, marines, coast guard, FBI, secret service...). :eyes: )

(do note I refuse to give him the honor and dignity by capitalizing his name... :evilgrin: )

And this time the Helots are well armed.

Too bad for the Spartans.

Respect has to be earned. Proper, deferential capital letters also.

for eight years with Clinton that "Respect must be earned."

Now they want be to support Boy George unconditionally. Go figure.

free country where you still have the right to protest within earshot of the naked emperor.

i am so sick of the same old propaganda and lies over and over.
republicans have this problem where they cant get past the broken record of excuses in their heads. i experience this when talking to them about the war- i hear the same faux lies verbatim.

are these people some sort of wierd robot breed?

"I would say that I understand you don’t like war, and neither do I."

What a liar. Bush loves war, as long as he and his rich friends or their children don't have to fight in it.

"But I would hope you understand that I have learned the lessons of September the 11th, 2001 . . ."

And what were those? When terrorists strike, obfuscate the issues and invade oil rich nations?

". . . and that terrorists declared war on the United States of America and war on people that love freedom, and I intend to lead our nation – along with others, like our close friends in Great Britain – to win this war on terror."

So when do you start fighting a war on terror? Where's Osama? Iraq was invaded, where's the evidence that Saddam had WMDs, associations with al Qaida or anything to do with September 11? Where is the justification that invading Iraq had anything to with fighting terrorists?

"That war is my last choice, not my first choice . . ."

Liar.

". . . but I have obligation as the President to keep our country secure."

So where's Osama? How does it make America more secure to have half of the Army's combat divisions on occupation duty in Iraq?

It is our natural right to be free. Freedom is not a charitable choice on the part of a controlling want to be dictator. It is ours to express not his to give permission to anyone to express. Madman.

typical of an arrogant assholes attitude....

by virtue of theft really know about or care about freedom?
what does someone -- who when it was his time to stand and be counted, turned and ran -- know about freedom?
what does someone who incarcerates people without access to an atorney know about freedom?
what does someone who lies about the cause to go to war -- and kills thousands of innocent people -- know about freedom?
i could go on -- but it's starting to gross me out.

Nothing seems to phase him.......you can just tell from his body language and facial expressions.

it's pretty self evident.

I know a winger who I point things out to just to see if I can aggravate him, and I am getting responses from him that mimic Bush's language ("well make no mistake how I feel, blah, blah blah ,freedom"). Twice he has used exactly what Bush uses here. One of those I sent him a Maureen Dowd item for the NY Times and he says, "well the Times can print anything they want about him but that is because they have the freedom to do so." Like bush granted them the freedom to criticize him. I wonder if bush is developing a robot following? Well actually I don't wonder I am seeing a case study of it happen before my eyes. All their responses involve our 'freedom' as though that freedom is something they *permit or *allow, with the implication being---at least I get it from this guy, that it is not really necessary since Georgie Porgie is so great.

It is really getting disgusting.

Lucky to be the silver-spoon son of a president
Lucky to be a powerful white man above prosecution for his crimes
Lucky to be surrounded by people who humor his Caligula-esque pretentions
Lucky to have a lap-dog press that fawns over his every blunder
Lucky to be a wildly successful moron

There are so many levels of irony in this I don't know where to begin...

Diana

I know what you mean, there's a huge buffet of bullshit and you only get to pick one plateful.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

but don't worry, because my henchmen are as we speak working to export the fascism that we enjoy in the US to nations across the world.

from terrorist in the White HOuse.

"Wait till my flunkies get through with you."

for now.

...from Middle and Old English precursors.

s_m

Hey Brits, set your "phasers" on stun!

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since it was in quotes, whether it was actually a mistake by the reporter, which I find hard to believe since they have editors, or if they lifted it directly from a White House memo.

is evidence of CIA mind control experiments gone awry. Maybe it was the LSD tests. I'm surprised Poppy picked his own flesh and blood to experiment on. Poor Poor Junior, Poppy should pay for this mess.:freak:

33% think he is stupid and 33% think he is incoherent.

THIS was on Sky news no less. They had a graphic of Bush in a helmet on the terror question... Bush in a dunce cap on the stupid question ... Bush with question marks swirling about on the incoherent question.

It was fucking splendid. I'm sure Rupert wasn't pleased. Ah fuck the nasty old bastard. I was laughing my ass off.

Bush is such a pathetic turd crowing about war as the last resort and people hating war and he understands...STOP right there folks.

Bush doesn't understand a single goddamn thing. Understanding involves compassion and this fucking narcissist doesn't do compassion.

He is a hateful emotional retard with a big grudge. I only wish he had taken his grudge up with a family counselor instead of using US troops to get his anger assuaged.

Fucking twit fuckwittage. God I loathe the creep.

He says that if he, himself has bestowed them their freedom. Condescending bastard. Oh, that will endear him to the British public, who's ancestors fought long and bloody wars to get to where they are now.

As I recall, many of the free people's of the world today are that way because they eventually dragged despots who said things like, 'Let them eat cake' and 'You're lucky to be free' to the prisons or got rid of them one way or another.

What a moron.

This sounds like a veiled warning.

Well bring it on Mofo.

There oughta' be limits to freedom. This statement made as he sought to shut down the website gwbush.com with pressure from the Federal Elections Commission.



GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT:
I told all four that there were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html

Go ahead little boys and girls, have your fun. It really doesn't mean anything and it won't change anything. My captive press won't even give it much coverage.

Because, Ashcroft hasn't got all your names and numbers yet. We are working on it though.

--in this case, he is pretentiously adopting a bigger than thou righteous attitude--after all, he cannot go on letting the truth come out about his fascism and inability to stand anyone protesting his policies so he has to pretend to be so very very magnanimous, forbearing and tolerant. I can visualize the smirk as he said this- he is the all knowing fatherly figure handing out sage platitudes to the little people who are so annoying as to protest him--meanwhile he has not a single qualification to give advice or permission to protest to anyone, except maybe Barney and Laura and actually they both respond better to commands than advice.

I was ready to go Kent State, or Mosul, or Tienamen Square, on your asses.



The Americans had also wanted to travel with a piece of military hardware called a 'mini-gun', which usually forms part of the mobile armoury in the presidential cavalcade. It is fired from a tank and can kill dozens of people. One manufacturer's description reads: 'Due to the small calibre of the round, the mini-gun can be used practically anywhere. This is especially helpful during peacekeeping deployments.'

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffairs/story/0,11538,1086411,00.html

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Read the fricking Declaration of Independence.

...he said he will "not be phased" by the protests. I believe him, 100%...like he gives a FUCK what the "rabble" thinks...

and he is not elected to a first term in the White House!

So many have lost their jobs with little hope for another. I wonder how they would feel if he said to them directly, "Well, at least you are lucky to be free".

The head of the company came to town to break the news himself. Which he did after the end of the morning news, when the big story of the day was the space shuttle Challenger blowing up.

This guy strides into the conference room and tells those of us left standing after all the blood-letting that we should feel lucky because - hey, at least we weren't aboard the Challenger! Actually his words were something to the effect of - seeing this in perspective, in view of the national tragedy we had today.

I've never heard any utterance spoken in my presence that was as tacky as this. Didn't know whether to laugh or cry! Sounds like something shrub would do.

wants to raise the Quota on the number of H-1b visas given out to foreign workers to come in and keep us unemployeed.

I HATE REPUBLICANS! :mad: :grr: :mad: :grr:

I would be curious to know the source of the spelling error. Since it was in quotes, I wonder if it came from a White House communique. The word is "fazed" not "phased" when you are using this context.

Don't know about the "ph."

The password is: fazed.

The quotes indicate it came from the White House, but there is no specification as to whether it was in writing or orally delivered.

I'd bet it was written, although if so, the reporter should have placed (sic) after "not phased."

That might have seemed disrespectful though....but who the heck cares?
W is giving the world the finger anyway.

s_m

MOTHERFUCKER.

It is by no grace of Bush's that we are free. We were endowed with our freedom by our CREATOR.

Read the Declaration of Independence, you illiterate fuck.

Oh thank you master bush for giving us our freedom..BASTARD! WHY OH WHY is this guy the leader of the free world!

I believe it is "fazed", not "phased".

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It may have been posted here before but Make Them Accountable has a link to a book written Milton Mayer, They Thought They were Free. We have gone quite a ways down this path and if bush is elected, we won't be so lucky as to be free at all.

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What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. snip

"How is this to be avoided, among ordinary men, even highly educated ordinary men? Frankly, I do not know. I do not see, even now. Many, many times since it all happened I have pondered that pair of great maxims, Principiis obsta and Finem respice - "Resist the beginnings" and "consider the end." But one must foresee the end in order to resist, or even see, the beginnings. One must foresee the end clearly and certainly and how is this to be done, by ordinary men or even by extraordinary men? Things might have changed here before they went as far as they did; they didn't, but they might have. And everyone counts on that might.

http://www.thirdreich.net/Thought_They_Were_Free.html

You who take away our freedoms, don't speak about freedom.

And war was your first resort, not your last.

What a silly argument for the head of a nation to make

would be restricted.

He feels he is KING and that we are lucky to have HIM. "It is our great fortune to have Bush at this dire time in our lives."

This is the kind of thinking he believes in. What arrogance, it can only come from a deluded mind.

on people when he says things like this and others like it. he seems to be good at that!

no thanks to Ashcroft, or this entire admin.

Who the hell does this arrogant condescending jerk-off think he is? What makes him think he has the right to tell free people from other countries that they are "lucky to be free", what an asshole! For those who still think bush* was j/k when he said it would be easier for him to be a dictator, this statement alone should be a major wake up call!

That quote by the chimp is a gem..Not a day goes by how i wonder how supposed " freedom Loving " americans can back this guy.. He clearly does not stand for the freedoms our country was founded upon..Well there is the 2nd amendment right that the right wingers only care about.. We are supposed to be a model of Freedoms, Free press, The Right to vote and they have all been perverted into bad jokes to the rest of the world by this man and his ilk.
GW does not want to uphold the freedoms that all americans should have.And i cannot understand how someone can love america and back this guy...Oh only if you make over $500,000 a year then you get all the freedoms money can buy..

Libel and slander laws are limits on speech. You cannot post a sign stating your opinion on someone else's private property... etc.

There ought to be limits on what * can get away with.

and don't you forget it, you unelected f^ck.

ON THE CONTRARY, THE STATE GOVERNS BY THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE ("WE, THE PEOPLE, IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH . . . "). THE PEOPLE SACRIFICE SOME LIBERTIES IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A STATE.

LIBERTY, HOWEVER, IS AN "INALIENABLE RIGHT OF MAN" THAT IS INHERENT AND ESSENTIAL TO MEN/WOMEN -- SOME BELIEVE GIVEN BY GOD OR A SUPREME BEING.

IT CANNOT BE PROVIDED BY THE STATE, ONLY TAKEN BY THE STATE.

Hopefully it will have a light indicating if the cap locks are on.

Has anyone ever wondered if would be illegal to yell fire in a crowded chat room

He should be behind bars

The latest buzz word.........I predict we'll be hearing quite a bit about "freedom" in the months to come!

'If you tell a big enough Lie, and keep on repeating it, in the end people will come to believe it.'

Earlier this week, Condi had said that US and British efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq "are finally getting those countries to the place that actually people might have the same privilege of protest".

They think of our freedoms, our Bill of Rights, as something they dispense as a royal boon. They probably think that Britain is still a true monarchy and fantasize about the possibilities here.

:grr: