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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:05 PM
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Police in Tehran ordered to arrest women in 'un-Islamic' dress
Iran's Islamic authorities are preparing a crackdown on women flouting the stringent dress code in the clearest sign yet of social and political repression under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

From today police in Tehran will be under orders to arrest women failing to conform to the regime's definition of Islamic morals by wearing loose-fitting hijab or headscarves.

During his election campaign, Mr Ahmadinejad dismissed fears that his presidency might herald a forced reversal, saying Iran had more urgent problems.

The clampdown recalls the aftermath of the 1979 Islamic revolution. The new campaign will hold taxi agencies accountable for their passengers' attire, police will be able to impound cabs carrying women dressed "inappropriately". Agencies guilty of repeat offences will be closed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,1757071,00.html

http://www.religion.dk/grafik/redaktion/43274884:00005EEB:C1-normal-Burka.jpg

Back to the Burkas.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:13 PM
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1. Gee. I bet women there never get raped..
...since they don't wear sexy clothes that tempt the men.

:sarcasm:
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:31 AM
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19. Iranian Women Wear Lots of Sexy Clothes and Makeup
They just put a burkha over it. Seriously. If the police want to make some arrests, they should start lifting those headscarves.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:17 PM
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2. I've heard enough!
Let freedumb reign!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:20 PM
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3. No --- Freedom is on the March
Favorite saying of the chimpanzee
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:32 PM
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5. He will use his drool napkin to scribble to Condosleeza again:
Can I pee after freedumb reigns?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:36 PM
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6. LOL you got it
Let Freedom Reign

What a Chimpanzee thought


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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:37 AM
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11. Actually, he'll ask her if he can take a leak...
...which, I personally feel, is where this whole Valerie Plame confusion started in the first place.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:31 PM
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4. IRAN = BAD. IRAN = EVIL. HATE! HATE! HATE!
We must invade them. We must bomb them. They are evil. They are the enemy. They torture women and eat babies.

How much more of this "Iran is bad" stuff are we going to be hearing in the coming weeks as Bushco gears up to start yet another war?
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:20 AM
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12. I was not aware that Iran was above criticism
Truth be told, I don't see how any sane person could support Ahmadinejad with all the asinine positions he's taken. The man's a racist religious zealot.

Unless you believe he's really a nice guy and should run as a Democrat, there's really no reason for anyone here to defend the man, either. And don't tell me I support war, or am a right-wing plant. It is by no means necessary to support war in order to support change in Iran.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:32 AM
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14. No one is saying Iran is above criticism...
simply that if we're really so concerned about the global plight of women I can think of another country- 2 words, 11 letters, starts with an S, ends with an A where women have it a hell of a lot worse than they do in Iran. It's a pretty big leap from arresting women for not wearing scarves to forcing schoolgirls back into a burning building because they aren't wearing burqas.

We're not defending Ahmadinejad- we're expressing healthy cynicism at the timing of this particular story.
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:21 AM
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23. Timing of the story? They just order the crackdown.
Are you suggesting that the news sit on this story? What are trying to say about the timing of the story?
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:50 AM
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29. I'm not saying anyone sat on anything,
simply that some things (like the oppression of women) happen all the time and hardly ever make the news. It's interesting that this is an important story because it's happening in Iran while the same thing happens every day of the week in certain other countries and never makes the headlines.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:51 PM
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7. Our colonial governments in Iraq and Afghanistan are doing the same thing
Women rights have gone down the tubes in Iraq and remained just as dismal in Afghanistan.

I dismiss this article as part of the anti-Iran propaganda.

Bush/Blair's threats to Iran have done nothing but strengthened the fundies there.
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:52 PM
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8. Yes and No
Bush/Blair's threats to Iran have done nothing but strengthened the fundies there.
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I agree with you above, but I disagree with you that the Guardian is part of Bush's anti-Iran machine.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:41 AM
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20. Could you back that up with proof?
"...and remained just as dismal in Afghanistan"

I don't think you have any.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:00 AM
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22. Check out RAWA
The Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan

http://www.rawa.us/index.htm

RAWA statement on the International Women?s Day, Mar 8, 2006
http://www.rawa.us/mar8-06_e.htm
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:35 PM
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27. Report Shows Continued Violence and Discrimination Against Afghan Women
Now, here is something you won't get from Faux News:

Women and girls continue to suffer from discrimination and restrictions. Only 35 percent of school-age girls are in school. According to 2005 U.N. and Afghan government figures, most marriages continue to involve girls below the age of sixteen, many of them forced.

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/01/18/afghan12266.htm

Feminist Daily News Wire
April 17, 2006

Report Shows Continued Violence and Discrimination Against Afghan Women


A new report on the current status of Afghan women and girls issued by the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) demonstrates that Afghan women and girls continue to face extreme obstacles and discrimination as they seek to exercise their rights. The “Evaluation Report on General Situation of Women in Afghanistan” states that despite the Afghan government’s constitutional obligation to “observe and respect women’s rights” and the numerous human rights treaties Afghanistan has signed, women face many problems in all aspects of their lives.

The report cites the practice of forced marriage as one of the “main causes of women’s rights violations” throughout the country. Shockingly, an AIHRC survey found that more than 38 percent of women were “wedded off against their will and consent.” Another appalling indication of the dire situation of Afghan women is the finding that more than 50 percent have been subjected to domestic violence. In addition to the physical and mental effects, the AIHRC stated in the report that domestic violence in Afghanistan frequently is the cause of suicide, self-immolation, forced prostitution and addiction to narcotics. Despite the magnitude of the problem, according to the report, “no serious action” has been taken to deal with domestic violence, and the problem is exacerbated by the fact that the law is not clear in this area and the civil code and the constitution are inconsistent on the issue.

Among the many inequities outlined in the report is a major disparity in the numbers of girls and boys attending school. The researchers report that more than twice the number of boys than girls attend schools. In the Zabul region, girls make up only 3 percent of the school population, even though there is little difference in the numbers of school-aged girls and boys in the area. Lack of security was cited as a primary reason why girls do not attend school in Zabul, which is in southern Afghanistan. The United Nations has reported that most of the 300 schools set on fire this year were in southern Afghanistan, according to the AIHRC. In addition to the lack of security, reasons given for the low number of girls attending schools included: “widespread gender discrimination in society’s customary practices; family poverty; and lack or shortages of female schools.”

The AIHRC has included comprehensive recommendations to address the severe problems outlined in their report, including a focus on gender in all government actions and that the government “struggle against improper tradition aiming at ensuring of women’s rights and ensuring of family well-being through legislation, provincial councils and religious scholars.”

http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9619

Afghan Legislator Calls for Enforcement of Chaperones for Women

Afghan women would be forbidden to travel without a male chaperone if a male member of the Afghan parliament has his way. Al-Haji Abdul Jabbar Shalgarai called the participation of two women members of parliament in a major donor’s conference “un-Islamic” and a violation of the law because they traveled without their husbands, according to the Christian Science Monitor. Shalgarai cited sharia law, which allows women to travel for more than three days only if they are accompanied by a male relative.

Shalgarai invoked the protection of women as the purpose for requiring male chaperones, saying, “If someone else’s woman is sitting in the same row of seats as you, well, human beings have different drives, including sexual drives. Sometimes these cannot be controlled...,” reported the Christian Science Monitor.

Although women’s rights are guaranteed in the Afghan Constitution, there is a constitutional provision stating that “no law can be contrary to the beliefs and provisions of the sacred religion of Islam.” The Feminist Majority and other women’s rights and human rights advocates raised concerns about this provision and other language that leaves issues not addressed in the constitution or by law to adjudication by religious laws.

“Women’s rights in Afghanistan are still fragile,” said Norma Gattsek, deputy policy director at the Feminist Majority. “They remain vulnerable to the same extremist Taliban-like interpretations of religion which were used to take away all of their rights.”

http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9531

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Canadian Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:39 PM
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28. If men cannot control their "urges"
then why not control the men? Why does the woman have to suffer? It makes no sense to me. The men should be the ones in burqas etc. JMHO.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:36 AM
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31. thats all great
now compare the situation to pre-invasion Afghanistan. Still MUCH MUCH better now. Learn to walk before running.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:53 PM
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9. What else is new?
That's been happening since Allah was a Corporal!

More of the bugga bugga boo = evil scampering Iranian terrorist campaign World Tour. :puke:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:35 AM
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10. Sounds like more planted propaganda from NeoCon agents.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:07 AM
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15. I think so!
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:08 AM
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13. Saudi already has this dress code... tell me again....
Saudi = Good Friends.

Iran = Evil Doers.......
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:00 AM
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16. It seems like
enforcement of such measures has increased under Ahmedenijhad.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:01 AM
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17. Of course. Many Iranians would prefer liberalization....
But our own Fundamentalist warmonger encouraged votes for an Iranian Fundamentalist warmonger.

Peace between our two countries would help the cause of Iranian women.

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LaBanty Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:15 AM
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18. Same Sh*t, Different Day
It's hard keeping the fundamentalist nutcake religious countries straight, ours or theirs, but this stuff isn't anything new. The difference is: Bush holds hands with the Saudis, and they're just as bad or worse, but this is supposed to show us how - suddenly - oh! Iran is terrible.

Religious fundamentalism is always terrible, but it pays to hold hands with their leaders when they have all the oil.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:55 AM
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21. If we bomb them and kill them, we will save them. Amen.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:51 PM
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25. Better over their than over here.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:51 PM
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26. Self Delete, Dupe.
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 03:52 PM by sarcasmo
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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:08 PM
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24. at the end of the clinton years, we were......
starting the process of rebuilding diplomatic relations between us and iran...i remember there was talk of our soccer teams playing one another in both countries, trade re-opening, etc, etc......within hours of getting the keys to the white house numb nuts flushed all that down the collective toilet with the "axis of evil" stichtk. a few years and many threats later we get this yahoo as iranian president...great work mister "i'm a uniter not a divider".....Ahmadinejad is bush's frankenstien monster.....
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:38 AM
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30. Some comments on pressure for this in Egypt right now...
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 05:39 AM by onager
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