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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 05:09 AM
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U.S. Pounds Insurgents in Central Iraq
U.S. Pounds Insurgents in Central Iraq
Mon November 17, 2003 07:29 PM ET

By Andrew Hammond
BAQUBA, Iraq (Reuters) - U.S. troops hit insurgents on Monday night with air, artillery and mortar bombs around the town of Baquba in central Iraq.

"They attacked us during Ramadan when we were willing to give them a chance, so this is our response," said ground commander Lieutenant Colonel Mark Young.

"This is the biggest operation we've had in the Baquba area in terms of tonnage and volume (of ordnance)," he said.

Young said two U.S. soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb earlier on Monday, highlighting the trouble U.S. occupying forces face in the Baquba area, a hotbed of anti-U.S. activity in central Iraq. (snip/...)

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3838871

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:41 AM
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:08 AM
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2. Insurgents = civilians?
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:15 AM
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4. changing their hearts and minds....one bomb at a time
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 10:28 AM
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3. since the insurgents are just about everywhere
does this mean we are going to start bombing all of iraq all over again? we're so good at winning friends and influencing people.
i'm sure that the family members of the folk killed this time around will just love the u.s. for liberating their family members from this earthly plane.
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nn2004 Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:20 AM
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5. How do you know this?
I don't recall seeing a number given for the insurgents.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:26 AM
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6. Look at the number of attacks !
Throughout Iraq. Either this is a mass insurgency or a smaller group gets around awfully fast. I think it is safe to say there is wide popular support for anti-coalition attacks, and the number of actual combatant insurgents is several thousands, not 5,000 as Gen. Abizaid claims.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:29 AM
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7. That's probably because you're watching US cable news
The lead General in Iraq (who's name escapes me at the moment) stated that he thought there were '5,000' active fighters against him.

The CIA stated the same week (last week) in a leaked report that they estimated there were 50,000 active insurgents/rebels, and the number was going to grow each week.

Not surprisingly, none of these rebels have thrown any flowers. Mostly just grenades.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 04:53 PM
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8. have any of them been captured?
haven't heard anything about this. No clearly defined insurgents/patriots/guerrillas whatever have been killed that I have heard of either. No stats, no interrogations. NOTHING!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 04:56 PM
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9. In ones and twos, perhaps
Although, by the Bush administration's definition, anyone who's killed or captured by the US military was a terrorist.

They honestly have no idea who it is (or how many of them) they are fighting.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 06:34 PM
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10. Remember in the Old West
when the outlaws were shot, or hung they would parade the bodies in the street. Remember Patton bragging about how many of the enemy he killed.

Now we fight wars where we hide even the facts about casualities from the Public.

I guess we are just more "civilized" these days. :eyes:
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 07:24 PM
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11. Ya right.
Probably just bombing empty warehouses, farmhouses and houses.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:03 PM
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12. More like pounding sand.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:27 PM
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13. Hasn't this "bigger sledgehammer" approach
been tried by Israel to teach Palestinians who is in charge?
And the whole world knows what a resounding success that campaign has been.

We can't get who we say the enemy is so we'll bomb their homes, kill their relatives and they will be dancing in the streets singing our praises. Uh huh, another clusterfuck brought to you by the good folks at Bush Co. a subsidiary of Halliburton, Cheny and Wolfowitz LLP.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 10:38 PM
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14. Tried in Nam too,
Didn't work there either. Just killed alot of innocent villagers.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:36 PM
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15. Israel uses instant and determined retaliation because it's weak.
WEAK. It's a standard strategy for a WEAK country.

We're supposed to be a big strong one. Unfortunately bully boy partied thru the important courses and whoever wrote his papers never told him there was something he should know.
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