Stolen senate judiciary memos posted on RW site

Mods: There is no real "headline" for this, as the link leads to a site where memos stolen from Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee have been posted. I also have posted a link to a thread in freerepublic where the announcement is made about the memos, datestamped three hours ago.

The memos were stolen from Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee, either from the computer or from locked file cabinets, and were leaked on Friday to the Wall Street Journal's editorial page and to the Washington Times. Senator Durbin called in the Capitol Police.

This morning the documents turn up on a right wing web site, in pdf form.

http://fairjudiciary.campsol.com/cfj_contents/press/collusionmemos.shtml

freepers are gleaning the nuggets that will be embarrassing to Dems:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1024278/posts

NONE!

The "From:" portions have all been blacked out, so it looks like an inside job. I also have a hard time believing that a Dem staffer would refer to anyone as a "nazi" in a congressional memo. (Forgeries? or has Ted Kennedy's office acknowledged that these memos are legitimate?)

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The scribbles in various sections and parts that are underlined look like the work of the repuke who stole them.

Do I even have to write this? Sorry. I get compelled when irritated. The issue in the media would be how the memo was obtained - not the memo itself. Think Jim McDermott.

And for all the Freeper trolls out there asking "but you aren't disturbed by the contents of the memo?" Not as disturbed as the 2002 Karl Rove election memo urging "focus on the war".

Their loyalties are wholly to multinational corporate entities (inherently undemocratic) which have no allegiance to our people, our land, our principles, or our Constitution.

If Nixon had been caught today for WaterGate, they'd all stand behind him and announce him as a bold leader who is committed to what he believes in.


No method is too low for them -- and I suspect that will be their Achille's Heel.

These memos are a fascinating peek behind the Senate doors. Sure it's Republican sleaziness and likely lawlessness. Like they don't come up with their own little plots against the Dems.

Such hypocrites...

what is going on is strategizing and coalition building. Of course it is politics -- the Congress is a political body. Only a Freeper eye would see anything in this that is nearly as sinister as what we would see from the Cheyney Energy Commission minutes -- if they were ever "released."

groups. Call me naive, and I didn't dig into each and every one, but isn't a lot of this just feedback from various groups on what they know/feel about the nominees?

Is getting input from constituents and interest groups against policy?
I don't know, I think there's more of a story as to how these got out than what's contained in them.

Scanned images from a fax? The last 2 pages almost look as though they were printed from a local hard drive, sort of hard to read the path.

the dox are, indeed, quite interesting & do show intelligent setting of priorities and realities. And, yes, what is all this phony outrage about POLITICS! :wow: in the Senate??? Exactly who is supposed to be shocked over that?

stole them had to editorialize in the margins. Without the comments (such as, from memory, "isn't this political!") they seem reasonable.

:evilgrin:

Again, the content of the memos is not really important (although the RW will try to make it so). The act of stealing them is the outrageous fact we must fight.

DEMOCRATS ON JUDGES



A series of Democrat memos on judicial nominations was leaked to the Wall Street Journal, where it was the subject of a November 14 editorial. The most disturbing information in the memos is highlighted in the editorial, which is attached. As one memo makes clear, for example, Democrats specifically targeted Miguel Estrada because he is Hispanic. (That memo alone would seem to give Estrada a prima facie Title VII claim.)



The source of the memos is unclear. The sheer volume of the memos, however, suggests that the memos weren’t simply misplaced by someone – they appear to have been intentionally leaked by a Democrat. Also, the memos, which begin in late 2001, cut off suddenly in April 2003. This suggests that they came from a former staffer, rather than someone who recently accessed Democrats’ computers. Finally, the only information blacked out in the memos is staffers’ names. Whoever leaked these memos did not care about the Senators, but apparently knew the staffers and cared enough to spare them embarrassment.



It bears keeping in mind that the groups and ideology described in these memos are driving not just Judiciary Democrats, but virtually all of the Senate Democrats. With the exception of Senator Nelson of Nebraska and Senator Miller, every Democrat Senator has voted to repeatedly filibuster judicial nominees this year. Indeed, aside from these two and Senator Breaux, who supported cloture on Estrada and Pickering, Senator Nelson of Florida (Estrada) and Senator Jeffords (Pickering), every other Democrat has voted to filibuster every single nominee targeted by the groups and Judiciary Democrats. Senate Democrats have voted to filibuster judicial nominees 16 times so far this year.



Two noteworthy themes emerge in the memos:


EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

freepers are saying that Hannnity is on a rant about this on his radio show.

He's a key to these stolen memos.

....someone who works for Frist forwarded the memos. Someone whose last name is Miranda had access to the computer that was used to forward the documents.

We're running down some other names, too. Someone named Mark Soohoo in Alexandria Virginia is running a domain carrying the memos. And Soohoo is affiliated somehow with the Donatelli Group (Republican consultants, bigtime.)

:grr:

Manuel Miranda is legislative counsel to Frist!

And documents were transferred from a computer that he accessed, according to the freepers.

To: The Chid

came from someone whose username is Manuel Miranda. Look at the bottom of pages 29 and 30.

It came from a computer to which he had access. It did not have to come from him--nor do I think he is the mole. The folder was hacked from another computer and the file printed from IE to paper and faxed off. It was then turned made into a PDF file. Pretty smart when you think about it.

One thing for sure, I'd hate to be Mr Miranda...


101 posted on 11/18/2003 1:13 PM PST by Truth Table
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to the UK. I wonder what else they will come up with to
look over here not over there. This is BS, at this point I
don't care what the Democrats are accused of the GOP has ceded
all moral authority at this point and do not have a leg to stand on.
This may be hardball but it is brainless hardball. This isn't the art of war it is the art of stupidity.

It was printed from Miranda's actual computer -- from someone sitting in front of it.

I grabbed them, and see this path on the bottom of page 29 and 30 (last 2 pages):

file://C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\manuel%20miranda\Local%20Settings\Temporary...

(then it gets cut off, since it's on an angle).

In any case, look at the drive letter: C:

That means it was on the boot drive, correct? If it were hacked and printed via a shared folder, wouldn't the drive letter be something more like 'E:' or 'Z:'? I'm not a real Windows type of guy, but that's how I'd understand it.

So they were definitely on Frist's counsel's computer, and printed from there, then the printed copy later faxed from somewhere else.

Nothing about that computer path appears to point to a customized pathway. Most likely, then these are coming out of temporary folders set up by the operating system. Most likely, these files were originally transferred as email and got cached in the temporary bin.

The "file://C:]\" looks the way my notations look when I print from my laptop to our home network printer. But I don't know that it wouldn't look exactly the same way if I were on the desktop and, from there, printed a document that was sitting on the laptop. I think this shows a network link.

BUT.... what I don't understand is, if Manuel Miranda is a legislative aide for Frist, what were they doing on his computer? That would suggest they had already been stolen & that Miranda was the one leaking them.

...and that needs to be answered.

But don't network drives 'mount' on windows with other drive letters than C? That's how Virtual PC works on my Mac (it runs W2K, so maybe it's different in XP). The 'file://' part is just the protocol portion of the URL in Explorer, indicating that it was a local file, and not from a webserver.

I think they were printed from Miranda's computer, and then the printouts were faxed elsewhere.

Then drive remapping can be done, such that "C:\" is really part of a network share. It's common in the thin client world.

Whether or not that's what's happening here, I have no idea. But c:\ doesn't necessarily have to reside locally.

quite a while. It's the %20 where there is normally a space on a local hard drive path that's throwing me.

Explorer does that.

of a computer that has a user named manual miranda. I posted something about that path earlier on, but I couldn't read the user name.
If they access their network thru a browser, the rest of the path would be temporary internet files which would make sense. Tons of stuff you look at with a browser gets stored in this directory. When I was in IT the co-op kids used to love to check these out to see what smut the sales staff had been looking at.

look faxed..

and was caught by someone who heard his cell phone call on a police scanner? Funny Newt breaking the law was not at issue, it was the people who violated his privacy. Is there no end to the republican hypocrisy? I doubt it.

with even a shred of integrity or decency will denounce and condemn this in the loudest of voices.

I haven't heard anything yet.

I haven't read through all of them but all they really appear to be is staffers taking phone calls, writing up notes and making recommendations. That's a staffers job. The right calls Republican Sentors and similar memos are written up by them as well. This is a cool look into how Congress works with constituent groups and other Senators.

What do they call their groups by the way? You know the Christian Coalition and people like them? Nuts, I know, but I mean the real word. We just use the same word and be proud of Senators who listen to the people and include them in the process.

What is wrong here? Stealing the memos is wrong not the memos themselves.

Freepers are part of the conspiracy. What's with all the leaked memos anyway. This is about the third time there were leaked memos.

unless you're a conservative with poor reading comprehension. The reference to Estrada being 'especially dangerous because he has a minimal paper trail,he is latino,and the white house seems to be grooming him for a supreme court appointment" means to me that the fact that he is Latino makes him more likely to be their supreme court choice,and since the dems can't verify his positions,he is especially dangerous. Unfortunately,the repubs won't make the context clear to the average american.

I think the dems should see to it these memos get published where people can read them easily. There were some references to how the republicans were holding up appropriations bills and launching false campaigns to slander the dems (page 14 of the PDF). I think if the average guy actually read these the repubs would look worse then the dems.

Are these computers (the ones from which the memos were stolen) physically located in the Senate office building?

And, if so, were there any checks for tampering (hardware and/or software) after the extended evacuation of that building in late 2001?


MDN

And it has occurred to some that the anthrax closure left things wide open for operatives.

of the rethuglicans yet THE IMPORTANT papers such as the pre 9-11 intelliegence reports, the pre-war intelligence, the energy task force meetings aren't anywhere to be found? (Heavy sarcasm)

If I were as filthy as a rethuglican, I would advise the dems to start stealing the wingnuts "inside information" and leak it to the press. These papers would look like childs play in comparison! But, the dems are good and don't need to resort to stealing elections or memos in order to win. I think all of this will backfire on the thugs. With dumbya's trip to the UK it is apparent the world is against this administration, not just the democrats.

if someone close to Zell Miller is involved in this???