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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:36 AM
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Al Qaeda attack on Canada 'probable'
Al Qaeda attack on Canada 'probable': CSIS

May. 10 2006 7:28 AM ET

The head of Canada's spy agency says while the threat from al Qaeda remains strongest overseas, a terror attack on Canadian soil is "now probable."

In his annual report to the government, Jim Judd says the Canadian Security Intelligence Service's highest priority involves working at preventing attacks occurring in, or originating from, Canada.

...

Stephen Rigby, acting national security adviser to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, said Tuesday the government is maintaining "a very high degree of vigilance" with respect to al Qaeda.

...

Rigby said, however, that Canadian officials have "no specific evidence" of a plot at this time.

CTV.ca
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:43 AM
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1. That's all we need. NOT!
Yes, let's make Canada's Citizens blind with *fear* so that they too can trash their beautiful Nation by turning the electorate Right Wing Wacko. Perfect. :puke:
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:51 AM
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5. Oh, Canada is well on it's way...

... to having a right-wing electorate, current administration as proof? Or maybe they too use Diebold machines up there...

I had the displeasure of crossing into Canada a few weeks ago and it was a freakin' nightmare... They were the biggest Jackoffs to us, detained us for hours for absolutely no reason (my uncle who was the driver had a heavy accent), tore apart our car and everything in it, and were just total A-holes in general... Never again... F U Canada... If I want that kind of treatment, I'll just stay right here in the good ol' US of A...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:35 AM
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11. Wow! That's disappointing to hear ...
I hope that it's just proof that there's jack booted thugs within every law enforcement of all Nations. I hope not that your story is an indicator that Canada wants to wear the "brown-shirts" of the new emerging Corporate United States of America?

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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:10 AM
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13. Been going to Canada every year for over 20 years.
We love it up there, the people are great and the country is beautiful. Never once have we had a problem with the authorities. The people there are good as gold, and we've developed some long term friendships with several. When we cross we're either bringing hunting gear or fishing gear, and yet we've still never had a problem. Not sure why you were detained, but from the attitude your showing here, I think i can make a pretty good guess.

As for an attack on Canada, myself and the other 7 gentlemen who've been making these trips with me over the years, have decided to come to their defense if needed. Our plan is to make our stand in the small town of Gimli in Manitoba. We will set up our perimeter around the Crown Royal Distillery and defend it at all costs.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:34 AM
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21. As long as it doesn't effect you or....

... your loved ones, Canada is your best friend, right...? I'm still here in DU, right?

My attitude got me what I deserved, huh? I guess you didn't read the part that my uncle was driving not me, therefore, I did not speak to these people when they decided to detain us and search everything in the car, including the kids' toys and pillowcases, detained for hours for absolutely no reason...

And for the record, if something like this had happened to you and your family, I would be outraged for you, my fellow-American...

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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:44 AM
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22. question?
Why do you think you were detained?
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 10:05 AM
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28. Honestly, I think it was the accent...

There were six people in the car, three of them were children. All were US-born citizens, with the exception of my uncle, the driver... He has earned his citizenship, coming from the Middle East twenty years ago... And there's your answer... Dark-skinned Middle-Eastern man in a black Yukon with perfect English but a heavy accent, and the rest of us passangers are average-looking US citizens who speak without a trace of an accent. Who knows? Maybe she misunderstood his answers and got suspicious so we got tagged for a "pull-over and investigate"? I could totally deal with that in this day and age, but it's the way these people treated us once we pulled over that I will never forgive them for... I guess if you weren't there you can't appreciate the seriousness of the situation. Nobody would tell us why we were being detained, and we were DETAINED as in unable to pick up and leave, and for the next three hours, they looked for anything that would prevent us from entering Canada. I've seen some searches on "Cops", but never anything like this... I've lived almost 20 years in NJ, the capital of "illegal searches" and never in my life had I been treated this way by any law-enforcement official... Terrifying and humiliating.. Treated like criminals for no reason. After all of which they let us pass without a single apology...

You don't have to believe me, but that is exactly what happened...
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Weaksauce Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:03 PM
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35. Sounds like profiling...
but maybe they had a warning about middle eastern men. Wouldn't be the first time.

Do you think Harper could have already dispersed his racist cohorts to border enforcers already?

Scary if they can work that fast. But I wouldn't think there would be that many racist and facist harperistas in the great north, I have a hard time beleiving canadians fall for that neocon crap like the US does.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:26 PM
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32. when he was in opposition, Harper used to go on at the Liberals ...
... about how "slack" and "sloppy" they were at the border. I am sorry for your family's experience, NJ_Lib -- I would not be surprised if some (probably newly-appointed) higher-ups leaned on the border guards and told them to do a bit of ethnic profiling, of the type favored by Harper's new best friend Dubya. I have friends who work in various federal agencies, and since the new government came in, they have been issued all kinds of new orders -- those who haven't been fired are not happy about the direction things have taken.

I had the pleasure (not) of talking with one of Harper's rabid supporters the other day. After telling me how he was hoping that an Arab-Canadian would kill some people, "just so I can laugh at all you bleeding-hearts who think they're harmless", he went on to tell me how my entire Japanese-Canadian family "deserved to be locked up" during WWII, and should have been deported afterwards.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:44 AM
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2. Those Crazy Canuck Conservatives are trying to steal away our FEAR!
I always knew they were just a bunch of Yankee-wannabees.

Well Canada, that's our world and welcome to it!
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:51 AM
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25. Canada is now very much like the US...

malls, Corporate chains on every corner and all...

When we were there, the only time I remembered I was out of my country is when we handled money... And even then, anybody would accept US cash, as they make out a little better... The people in Canada are nice enough and I actually like it there, but their new regime is a little too Chimp-like for my comfort... Not going there again....
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:47 AM
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3. Probably heard it thru the grapevine of US intel.
and we all know how reliable that is. Hmmmm, wanna make a guess - will it be LIHOP or MIHOP? Can't do another one on our soil right now because it would be too suspicious. The heat is on with those low poll numbers. Maybe going to the aid of Canada in the event of an attack would raise his poll numbers without the general American population catching on AND continue to fuel the war on terror for oil.

Wait a minute.... I forgot. Dubya doesn't look at poll numbers.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:48 AM
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4. I doubt it...nt
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:52 AM
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6. bwahahhhahaaa
harper is parroting bush-brand crap.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:53 AM
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7. Al Qaeda included Canada on a list of target countries in both November 20
uhhhh...and just how did this Al Qaeda memo make its way to Canadian intel?

Were they on the Al Qaeda mailing list?
Did they attend the annual Al Qaeda training seminar?
Perhaps it was at an Al Qaeda reunion?



:eyes:

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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 10:04 AM
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27. Flag on the Play!!!
"10 yards...thinking"

No no no...the US put Canada on the terrorist watch list, but didn't put the Taliban on the terrorist list, but the Tories (and the 4 other parties) are fighting the Taliban terrorists for freedom...so...um....um....Help...my brain is fused...error...error...shutdown...pfft

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:10 PM
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31. Warning Will Robinson! ... Regenerate! ... Regenerate!
Warning! Step away from the bong ... Yes!

Correction! Hand it to me! :P :smoke:

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:07 AM
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8. Canada takes al Qeada threats seriously?
Imagine if our leaders did that ....
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:07 AM
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9. Well, anything's "probable"....earthquakes, hurricanes, meteor strike, etc
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:35 AM
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18. Actually, anything is *possible*. Being *probable* is a whole other matter
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:15 AM
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10. unlike bushco -- canada will
actually meet the threat -- reasonably -- and DO something about it.
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haab Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:03 AM
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12. very very very unlikely
I'll never happen.. they'll just use Canada as a base to enter the US.

Currently there are 10's of thousands of refugees in Canada from Arab and Muslim countries. al-Qaida sympathizers in Canada are plentiful...

An attach would have happened along long time ago.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:11 AM
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14. Well, the Northern Minutemen need to swing into action.
Guard that Border!


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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:14 AM
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15. Canada's involvement in Afghanistan
could potentially make them a target. Not that I buy into the propaganda but just sayin.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:26 AM
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19. Links to prove your contention please
"Al-Qaida sympathizers in Canada are plentiful..."
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:45 AM
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23. They didn't have to sneak over the border....
From either Canada or mexico.

In the offical roveian version of the 9/11 saga of how the 19 Terrorists gained entry into the US, not only are none of them caught or turned back at their point of entry but their entry is made easier with the bush junta changing the Visa requirements shortly before for Saudi citizens. Much of the paperwork they fill out was incomplete and many that gained entry were on intelligence agencies "Terror Lists". This happened even after the US Government received a number of warnings regarding a desire by Al Qaeda to "launch attacks within America".

Then they go to learn to fly at a flight school used by the CIA.

Who could have forseen?

In truth the real terrorists are already here ploting the next attack on the people of the US... from the safety of Cheney's bunker.

Peace.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:18 AM
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16. Thee's no such thing as 'Al Qaeda'.
'Al Qaeda' is a modern bogeyman, created to terrify the simpleminded and easily cowed, and as a convenient means of bringing unconnected acts of terrorism commited by Islamic fundamentalists under one umbrella, and it works because most people in the West are too ignorant and ill-informed to really understand that there's NO LOGICAL CONNECTION between Muslim separatists in Chechnya, teenage Tube-bombers in London, and Iraqi 'insurgents'--aside from the fact that, you know, they all happen to be Muslim, and we're in a 'global war on terror', so, hey, they MUST be connected, right?

Now he MIGHT be more accurate if he'd said that there was some chance of a terror attack in Canada by Islamic extremists (although one really wonders how likely that is); this really sounds like reckless and irresponsible fearmongering (which wouldn't be much surprise with the Tories in power; it is, after all, the conservatives' stock in trade the world over).
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mortlefaucheur Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:07 PM
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30. Right on SJ;
Looks like RW Canadians are buying MurKKKa's last two exports, Fear and Fascism.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:32 AM
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17. Is this code for the U.S. is seeking Canada's support???? nt
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:29 AM
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20. Canada is no more, no less a target than they have ever been
This is simply a regurgitation of a report previously issued. I have NO doubt, though, the faux Con MINORITY government of Harper will try to make the most of it and attempt the terra, terra, terra policy of the bush admin in hopes of raising his poll numbers which stand at 35% at the moment.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:47 PM
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34. I agree! Who has Canada screwed?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:49 AM
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24. robots
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:56 AM
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26. Oh really....OMG
So some arm of the US government is planning an terrorist attack in Canada?

Certainly hope it's just propaganda about how 'brown people' are hiding under our beds, next to the other assorted monsters..

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:51 PM
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29. So where pray tell, is this hit list of countries?
I'd like to know who is on it and in what order. Will help me with my vacation plans. (duh)

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:37 PM
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33. Fifty-Four Forty or Fight!
Edited on Wed May-10-06 01:37 PM by slackmaster
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