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PageOneQ Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:30 PM
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Military recruiter denies gay linguists were discharged; Wants gays
http://pageoneq.com/news/2006/military_051206.html

Military recruiter denies gay linguists were discharged; Wants to enlist 'patriotic' gays

A recruiter for the United States Army responded with an email to a civilian comment by denying that gay linguists were ever discharged from the military and asserting that the claim was a propaganda effort to paint Arab individuals as gay, PageOneQ has learned. In the same correspondence the recruiter encouraged “patriotic gays” to enlist in the Army.

“The recruiter does not speak for the United States Army,” Major Nathan Banks, an Army Spokesman said today in a conversation with PageOneQ. The emails from the recruiter were sent from his US military email account.


Full Story:
http://pageoneq.com/news/2006/military_051206.html
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:32 PM
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1. "'patriotic' gays"
Edited on Fri May-12-06 02:33 PM by marmar
Does he mean Mary Cheney and Jeff Gannon/Gluckert?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:44 PM
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6. te he.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:50 PM
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8. Patriotic = very, very deep in the closet
Edited on Fri May-12-06 02:50 PM by TechBear_Seattle
If you say one word, just one small word, you will be drummed out because of DADT faster than a marching band on speed.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:34 PM
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14. Their LIES are so easily uncovered...

Friday, December 5th, 2003
Despite Increased Post-9/11 Need, Military Fires 37 Arabic Translators For Being Gay

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/05/160238

...She learned Arabic at the Defense Language Institute (DLI), the military's premier language school, in Monterey, Calif. Her timing as a soldier was fortuitous: Around her graduation last year, a Government Accounting Office study reported that the Army faced a critical shortage of linguists needed to translate intercepts and interrogate suspects in the war on terrorism.

"I was what the country needed," Glover said.

She was, and she wasn't. Glover is gay. She mastered Arabic but couldn't handle living a double life under the military policy known as "don't ask, don't tell." After two years in the Army, Glover, 26, voluntarily wrote a statement acknowledging her homosexuality.

Confronted with a shortage of Arabic interpreters and its policy banning openly gay service members, the Pentagon had a choice to make.
Which is how former Spec. Glover came to be cleaning pools instead of sitting in the desert, translating Arabic for the U.S. government.

In the past two years, the Department of Defense has discharged 37 linguists from the Defense Language Institute for being gay. Like Glover, many studied Arabic. At a time of heightened need for intelligence specialists, 37 linguists were rendered useless because of their homosexuality.

<snip>

TRANSCRIPT

AMY GOODMAN: Well, we are joined right now by someone who has looked closely at this issue, Nathaniel Frank. He is a senior research fellow at The Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military at the University of California, Santa Barbara, and an adjunct professor of history here in New York at New York University and New School University. Welcome to Democracy Now!.

NATHANIEL FRANK: Hi.

AMY GOODMAN: The significance of this, the story just coming out now, and can you explain what is happening?

NATHANIEL FRANK: Well, the story is not just coming out now, but it's been updated since we now have this number of 37 linguists having been fired under the policy at a time of heightened national security. And last year when the story first came out, to take one example, the Army had 84 slots to fill of Arabic translators and could only fill 42 of them. So if you take this number, 37, it's a very high number of slots that could have been filled that the government is deciding shouldn't be filled because it's insisting on enforcing an outdated policy.

more at link...
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/05/160238
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Bruden Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:34 PM
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2. Should take about half a day before * smacks him down.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:35 PM
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3. So the gay linguists who came forward after they were fired
are imaginary?

What an idiot.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:12 PM
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12. Guess they have a lot of back pay coming then, huh?
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:39 PM
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4. Military Recruiter ODs on the Kool-Aid. n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:43 PM
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5. propaganda effort to paint Arab individuals as gay,??--this recruiter is
a real dud!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:45 PM
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7. These guys are so FUBAR, they don't know which foot to
shove in their mouth next.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:55 PM
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9. They are the ones implementing a FUBAR policy
set forth back in 1993 by Pres Clinton.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:58 PM
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10. Yep. And a dangerous one at that for any gay person in the
military. That was Clinton, all right.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:01 PM
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11. Hiding behind a don't ask, don't tell policy is doing
absolutely nothing to break down the stereotypes. In my opinion, Clinton could have really opened the doors wide to making the military deal with gays as every other service member. He took the easy way out and, as a result, further strengthened the idea that gays aren't worthy of the same protection under military law as are straight service members.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:24 PM
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17. You can't report a rape. You can't report any kind of sexual
assault or even anything that could be related to one. Clinton put political expediency ahead of the safety and civil rights of American citizens.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:31 PM
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13. Need more cunning linguists. Ones that really get into their jobs.
Rather than just scratching the surface.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:45 PM
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15. They've been lying so long, they don't know what's real
I realize by this time that it really helps to be delusional so you can be a military recruiter, but does that really serve the country?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:55 PM
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16. Self-delete. Someone beat me to it. n/t
Edited on Fri May-12-06 03:56 PM by IanDB1
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