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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 11:47 AM
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White House dismisses calls for direct Iran talks
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060514/pl_nm/nuclear_iran_bush_dc

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House on Sunday dismissed calls for direct talks with Iran to resolve the stand-off over its nuclear program, saying the United Nations was the best forum for those discussions.

"We think the framework we have is even better, we have a number of countries that are engaged with Iran on this issue, we are supportive of those discussions," White House national security adviser
Stephen Hadley told CNN. U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan urged the United States on Friday to enter into direct talks with Tehran, as have others.

But Hadley said the United Nations was the preferred forum for the talks.

"The forum has now shifted to a discussion in the
U.N. Security Council where the international community as a whole, of which the United States is a part, can make clear to Iran what it needs to do," he told CNN's "Late Edition. "We think that's the right forum at this time for this issue."
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:14 PM
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1. John "knock 10 stories off the UN" Bolton is the right forum, yeah.
Suddenly, these neocons think the UN is just the ticket to do their political bidding.

No, we wouldn't THINK of face to face discussions with Iran.

Bully cowards.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:19 PM
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3. of course it has shifted you idiot. The US pushed it to shift!


But Hadley said the United Nations was the preferred forum for the talks.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:19 PM
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2. complete bullshit
there is no 'discussion in the UN security council'.

and there likely won't be either, considering their latest push has just failed miserably even before reaching the security council.

another thing, they can't even keep their spin straight anymore. they had been claiming it was iran that was refusing talks!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:22 PM
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8. You noticed that too?
As I was making my way down this thread, I kept thinking of what Bush's attitude was during the buildup to war with Iraq.

"The UN is irrelevant"

Back in those days, they certainly didn't have any qualms about sharing their true feelings about the UN = pure hate.

Now it's the best place for discussions?

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:20 PM
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4. didn't condi say last week the UN wasn't relevant?
it was awfully close....

Rice to UN: Follow Us, or Fade Into Irrelevance
By Scott T. Paul | bio
Apparently, Condi Rice has jumped on the Bolton bandwagon. She's the latest to suggest that the UN's relevance depends on whether or not it confronts Iran. This isn't the first time the administration has sought to tie the UN's credibility to its support of U.S. goals, but Rice's entry into this game is particularly disturbing.

http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/29288
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:28 PM
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5. Rice to UN: 'Follow Us, or Fade Into Irrelevance'
Exactly on point!




I'm getting whiplash watching these people.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:47 PM
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6. Hadley should be serving time in a Federal penitentiary!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:24 PM
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9. Don't worry. His day is coming.
Mr. Hadley is going down with the S.S. Bush. At some point, when the water has reached the port holes, the rat will surface on the railing, trying to find a place to jump to.

It'll be too late.

This guy has skated FAR too long. I remember how sweaty he was, after the Nigergate thing broke. Pull out that deodorant, Steven.

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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:11 PM
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7. But we are going to try diplomacy first.........
How can we try diplomacy if we won't talk to them?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 05:42 PM
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13. Must be a degree of difficulty thing
I wish someone would poll on stuff like this-

'Do you think it's _____ to try and work out problems without talking?'

a. insane
b. crazy
c. bat-shit crazy
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:28 PM
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10. So this will be another, 'write a resolution so the US can lie and
go to war' type hook & bait? This is EXACTLY what they did with Iraq, used the UN as a tool for invasion. Nevermind the fact that the UN never AUTHORIZED force against Iraq (who needs them anyway, oh right we do!)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:47 PM
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11. and Russia and China will veto any US-sponsored resolution
even one introduced by one of our European lapdogs, such as the UK.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 04:06 PM
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12. In other words, Bush wants to make animosities escalate
so that he can build more of an excuse to drop some bombs on Iran.

At which time, we'll be told that "you're either with us, or against us!"
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