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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:29 PM
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(CBS) Poll: Border Plan Gives Bush A Boost

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/18/opinion/polls/main1631566.shtml

Poll: Border Plan Gives Bush A Boost
Most Americans Approve Of Sending National Guard To U.S.-Mexico Border


(CBS) There's growing support for President Bush on the hot-button issue of immigration, according to a CBS News poll.

Most Americans say they approve of the immigration reform proposals the president outlined in a nationally televised address earlier this week. They're also somewhat optimistic that Congress will pass an immigration bill by year’s end.

Sixty-two percent favor the president's plan to station up to 6,000 National Guard troops at the U.S.-Mexico border, while 32 percent are opposed.

Six in 10 also approve of Mr. Bush's proposal for a guest worker program, which would let foreign workers stay in the United States on a temporary basis and then return to their home country.


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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:38 PM
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1. Not buying it
Margin of error listed as plus/minus 4%. I just don't buy it.


http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/1446062
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:22 PM
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14. might be true
but if this poll is accurate, then the 60%+ favoring this are in the sensible middle. And the sensible middle doesn't include his base. So even if this is true, it's not good news for him.

Notice, too, that they apparently only polled on this one issue.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 02:25 AM
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16. the other problem
like most of bush*'s plans - the packaging may look appealing, but when you open the box it's a very different product
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Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 03:51 AM
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17. white males love any talk of closing the borders south of us
Some I know think the spanish speaking crowd is stealing America, the root of all the evil in America.....they also love Rush, so that tells you a lot about them
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:41 PM
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2. There is no such thing as a guest worker unless the USA changes
migra laws. Currently, under such a law after 4 years the guest worker will be able to apply for US citizenship. Bad enough right? Well 5 to 6 years after he/she is granted citizenship he/she then can sponser his parents in. This will amount to a back door into US citizenship for upwards of 100 million new US citizens in the next 20 years. It will also allow guest workers to enroll in welfare and medicaid programs rendering any taxes guest workers pay meaningless. More smoke and mirror slight of hand by shrub inc. Another mis-conception is this only applies to mexican guest workers, again it will apply to any and all citizens of any country world wide.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:55 PM
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12. You better believe it! You have ID the enitre charade.
People just do't know how many guest workers there are in the US right now who ARE NOT Mexicans and a lot of them are no smarter or no more industrious than Americans whose roots go back to pre-Civil War. If people only knew about the "re-settlement" programs that have brought in hundreds of thousands of immigrants over the past 3 decades. And the real kicker is the dual citizenship aspect which allows these people who have been charged with crimes to return to their native country and never be criminally prosecuted. Organized crime sydicates use these re-settlement and guest worker programs to the max.
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THX1138 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:43 PM
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3. The most important sentence in the article
"Mr. Bush's overall approval rating remains low at just 35 percent, but that's a 4-point increase from before his immigration speech."

With a 4% margin of error I think that's called a wash.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:44 PM
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4. You can bet that CBS DIDN'T ASK
people if they would support holding businesses responsible for hiring illegal immigrants as a better long term solution to immigration than the temporary deployment of 6000 weary NG troops along the border.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:12 PM
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13. Yep
Edited on Thu May-18-06 10:13 PM by mvd
And notice that never got into Bush's speech (I know people who watched it.)

As for the poll, even Rasmussen has Bush going down after the speech.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:45 PM
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5. With a 4% MOE, that means that no real gains in his approval....
occured.
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:49 PM
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6. No, these are pure lies
Its impossible, I don't buy it one bit.

LIES
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:50 PM
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7. Third Term! Third Term!
Laws are for Democrats! Go for it, smirk!
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:52 PM
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8. How'd so many people get hard core drugs? How come I missed
that? Where was I suppose to apply for them? I really need them after 5 years of hallucinations. * is an hallucination isn't he???
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:43 PM
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9. Interesting headline
But the polls were all about the plan, and not duh-man.

Nice try, CBS.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:46 PM
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10. This issue is put outthere just like the gay marriage thing last election!
Edited on Thu May-18-06 08:49 PM by demo dutch
Conservatives may disagree all they like, at the end of the day they will still vote Republican along with moderate repugs. Can't take the elections for granted that's for sure!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:54 PM
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11. Bull...
shit...
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:51 AM
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15. People might agree with him on this ONE issue...
However, he's hoarked up so many HUGE issues, that the immigration issue is almost mute.

Many agree with Bush's plan on immigration. Big whoop.

That doesn't translate into anything significant in his general poll numbers.

The man is an abomination and a huge failure.

You can't rip the country to shreds and then claim victory when one of your ideas is not totally hated.

I wouldn't care if Junior cured cancer, gave us all $10,000 checks in the mail and invented a tasty, calorie-free chocolate bar. Nothing could make up for the nightmare he's created since he was elected.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 05:49 AM
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18. Please, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining ...
Propaganda. :puke:
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