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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:54 AM
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House panel votes for Net neutrality
there may just be hope for the world. Even if it comes in twisted logic

http://news.com.com/House+panel+votes+for+Net+neutrality/2100-1028_3-6077007.html
By a 20-13 vote Thursday that partially followed party lines, the House Judiciary Committee approved a bill that would require broadband providers to abide by strict Net neutrality principles, meaning that their networks must be operated in a "nondiscriminatory" manner.

All 14 Democrats on the committee (joined by 6 Republicans) supported the measure, while 13 Republicans opposed it.

That vote is a surprise victory for Internet companies such as Amazon.com, Google, Microsoft and Yahoo that had lobbied fiercely in the last few months for stricter laws to ensure that Verizon, AT&T and other broadband providers could not create a "fast lane" reserved for video or other high-priority content of their choice.

snip...in a show of what Washington is really all about....

In an unusual twist, many members of the committee said they were voting for the legislation not because of strong concerns over Net neutrality--but instead because of a turf battle. They said they were worried that a competing proposal already approved by a different committee last month would diminish their own influence in the future.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:10 AM
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1. Hallelujah! A blow against media monopoly. nt
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WhoDaThunk Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:48 AM
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2. The fight isn't over
I fear that people will see this vote and think it's all over, when it so isn't. I fear that too many people will skim the headline and not dig deep enough to see that there are competing bills that could still go through, and that that's one reason this particular one didn't. Unfortunately, the masses do tend to have a short attention span.
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sugapablo Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:22 AM
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5. But...
At least it's a step in the right direction. One bill down, X to go!
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:16 PM
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22. NOTHING is over with **Co in charge. They'll try again tomorrow ...
and the next day, and the next...
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:43 AM
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3. they voted the correct way for us but only by chance.
sounds like the only reason they went for it was for their own selfish, power hungry reasons.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 05:12 AM
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4. Thanks for the update....still fighting back though! n/t
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nankerphelge Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:44 AM
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6. The only reason this might not happen...
is because you've got two relatively powerful business interests fighting it out. Rest assured that it would have already been rammed through if it was business verses consumers.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:47 AM
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9. exactly
The American has no value whatsoever anymore except as a chicken, ripe for the plucking.




Cher

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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:53 AM
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10. Ur Right
It's only because the big guys are fighting over the turf not because anyone gives a shit about our rights. I'm no longer calling this country the USA anymore where now the CSA. The "Corporate States of America." I'm sure the Southerners in here will like that but it's anything but the Confederate States idea. What we see happening in this country is a weird thing in some ways and in others it makes sense. The Bu$hiviks are essentially doing to America what the organized crime gangs did to the old Soviet Union. They are slowly dismantling the State leaving only a shell. They are "privitizing" the Gov't one agency at a time. Selling off Nat'l assests etc. It's like the looting of Baghdad. These people are essentially destroying the State as we know it and handing it over to their Corp. buddies. piecemeal. Part of the plan is to leave the old USA so buried in debt that in the end it has to declare Nat'l bankrupty. By then nothing will be left worth selling. The Nat'l state will aborogate it's responsibilites such as Social Security, medicare etc. The Corp. aristocracy with it's "Unitary Executive" (CEO like Dictator) will then run the State military arm. The reason why Congress and the DC DEMOS are not doing anything to stop this process is because they don't understand it yet. The "new" GOP is like a cancer eating away it's host and the host body cannot see it because it still thinks this cancer is part of the body. In the end what we will have is a phony Nat'l state with Corp.voting (they count the votes) and nothing more. The Chesire cat of Gov't is disappearing and soon all that be left is the Smirk on it's face. Marx predicted that the State would fade away as Capitalism transformed into a world of total monoply capital. The BIG Corps. own it all now small business has been dying a death of athousand cuts in this country. The small business man/women cannot compete anymore against Walmart etc. Plus he cannot compete politically. We're returning to a Hi Tech version of the Middle Ages with a kind of Corp. feudalism. It almost happened this way early on in the 20th Century but the progressive movement broke up the trusts of the time and ended that attempt. This time with the aid of ciomputers and raw political will they've almsot done it. Even a big part of the Demo. party no longer believes in "real" democracy. That's the real reason why the DC Demos have no fight in them. The Republic is dead again. As Franklin said the day the Constitution was signed and delivered. Whe he was asked what kind of Gov't we now had he answered " A Republic , if you can keep it?" We've lost it now and were all the "new Romans." Welcome to the Imperial Corprate States of America. Emperor/CEO George W. Bu$hCo at your service.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:58 AM
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11. You do realize
Edited on Fri May-26-06 08:59 AM by SIMPLYB1980
that there are democratic southerners don't you we are not all knuckle dragging, hillbillies, racists thats just how the MSM portrays us. I would like to remind you that one of the most powerful statements made to King George came from Mr. Harry Taylor and the great state of NC.

“I feel like despite your rhetoric, that compassion and common sense have been left far behind during your administraiton,In my lifetime, I have never felt more ashamed of my leadership in Washington,” Taylor told the president. “And I would hope from time to time that you have the humility and grace to be ashamed of yourself.”




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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:30 PM
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15. Not attacking southerners
I was not attacking southerners. I was just making light of the CSA thing. Southerners are just as much victims of the new CSA as Northern or Westeners.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 02:29 PM
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17. Thats OK.
It just seemed you were singling southerners out, however you did make some good points. I like to call it Corporate Fascism.

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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 06:56 AM
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23. Southerners
I was up late last night watching Turner Classics and one of the big studio 60's Civil Rights movies was on "In the Heat of the Night" with Rod Steiger and Sidney "Call me Mr. Tibbs!" ) Poiter. I was amazed at how stereotypical and negatively it portrayed that small southern town. It was really one sided. It purposely showed the ugliest side of the south in that era. Today such a movie would be laughed at by most people and castigated by others. I was down south in that era quite a bit because my first wives family lived at that time in Summerville, SC. I loved in that area and got to travel around from there to Alabama, Georgia and N.C. as well visiting people and taking in the sites etc. I never encountered any nastiness because I was from NJ and was obviously a Yankee. In fact I was treated with courtesy and respect by everyone I met. Many of my friends now live in various southern states and I delight in going to see them. The south in my eyes has more positive about it then negative.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 04:29 PM
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21. Welcome to DU, SIMPLYB1980.
You'll need to develp a thick skin here at DU if you are Southern (or if you still have family there).

I was born and raised in the Deep South (as were most of my ancestors back to the early 1800's) and I find I must bite my tongue at times... even though I'm a lifelong Democrat!

Anyway, it'll all work out.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:05 AM
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12. Most Southerners don't give a fuck about the Confederacy.
In fact, quite a few Southerners aren't even white. (Not that this melanin-deficient Texan has ever flown the Battle Flag.)

Hint: Format your screeds in "paragraphs"--so more people will bother to read them.



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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:28 PM
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14. U read it
Didn't stop u from reading it.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:56 PM
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16. I din't read it
And won't read posts w/o paragraphs. The DUer that suggested paragraphs/easier to read format was trying to help you out.

But then, w/your attitude, I doubt you realized that.
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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:56 PM
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19. Attitude?
Seems ur the one with an attitude not me.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 04:11 PM
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20. I have an attitude
because I agreed w/the other poster about making posts easier to read?



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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 03:11 PM
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18. I won't bother again.
"U"?

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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:52 AM
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7. One victory.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:08 AM
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8. Alright!!!
Score one blow for the netroots!!!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:17 PM
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13. But there will be a Presidential Signing Document attached...
... that says Bush can shut-down any routers in the country, at the push of a button, if he's having trouble voting on-line for American Idol.

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