Politicians: Haditha probe must go to top

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Politicians: Haditha probe must go to top

by Ken Dermota 48 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A US probe of an alleged massacre of civilians in Haditha,Iraq must go beyond accused Marines and up the military command to rule out any possibility of a cover-up, US lawmakers said.

"The test will be whether the leadership in the
Department of Defense and in the administration does not try to ... say it was just a few Marines or a few soldiers, but looks to see if this is part of a larger systemic problem," Senator Jack Reed told "Fox News Sunday."

Meanwhile, Senator Carl Levin told CNN's "Late Edition" program: "There is a real possibility of a cover-up."

Levin pointed out that the massacre of some 24 men, women and children in November only came to light only months after the fact, in a March 2006 Time Magazine article.

Marines said in a press release the day after the incident that the Iraqis had been killed by a roadside bomb, but videotape footage showed children and elderly people had died of gunshot wounds.

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He likes to style himself as commander in chief, and compare himself to Harry Truman.

Well the ungodly massacres and wide-scale tortures in Iraq are an ugly buck that stops on George Bush's desk.

Bush cannot go AWOL again on responsibility for this. He lied to our troops to get them over there and to keep them there, and he has not backed them up or supported them adequately.

Ask yourself: how could a guy with a shameful AWOL military record, and another guy (Cheney) with Five Frikking Deferments ("I had other priorities") provide real leadership?


All Bush has done in the way of "leadership" is to insure that his republicon OIL Cronies make massive oil and gas profits -- at the expense of every car-driving and food-eating American citizen.

...left out of the information loop for weeks. We should remind the public of this every time he claims he's in charge of anything.

Truman was president. A lot of Korean civilians were killed by U.S. troops. I want to say it was called Nonn Guu Ra, but can't seem to put my fingers on it right now.

it is over there and also how it should never be. GRAPHIC, be warned.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/

WTF is it with some people, specialy Americans ? What's all this noise and hoo ha regarding Haditha ?
What the hell does it matter at all ?
In case anyone's missed the FACTS, the U.S. together with it's sycophant arse licker supporters has BREACHED International law and the U.N. auspices by ILLEGALY INVADING ANOTHER COUNTRY.
THUS, EVER LIFE LOST IN THAT ACTION, IS A WAR CRIME, FULL STOP. END OF STORY.
Every life lost since, is simply another MURDER COMMITTED BY THE ILLEGAL TERRORISING CRIMINALS OF THE COALITION.
There is NO SUCH THING, AS AN ISOLATED INCIDENT, THEY ARE ALL PART OF THE WHOLE.

This waffle that the poor troops are somehow not to blame, is also, some of the biggest bullshit I have ever heard.
As a Vet, and having been there, does not excuse anyone from discarding their humanity and becoming a fully fledged murderer, no matter what the circumstances.

Boo Hoo, I read stories where their actions are somehow mitigated simply cause they can't tell the difference between the enemy and the civilians. Oh Golly Gee, the poor little darlins.

How stupid do you hafta be ? The enemy is the one who is SHOOTING AT YOU, simple as that, and if they're not shootin at you, then they're NOT YET the enemy.
Yeah I know, makes it hard, and you actually have to apply yourself to your job, but no one said when you signed on, that it was gonna be easy did they ?

Seriously, I harbour serious reservations on the quality amd moral fibre of America's youth today.

that abuses are being perpetrated in our name. There are a lot of thick people out there in America.
This war is illegal, I'll agree with you there. And if a soldier doesn't know right from wrong, he needs to be exposed and prosecuted (along with his whole chain of command), especially for the egregious crimes that were allegedly committed.

commited by the Bush Junta-- and then it will disappear into the Roberts/dem lackey Senate hole of intelligence, like everything else has these last 6 years.

Like the white-washing of 911, the pre-war intelligence and the Senate Iraq Pre-war Intelligence Phase II report, like Blackwell's Ohio and Diebld et al, like the torture boy's war crimes policies for Gitmo and the CIA overseas renditions, like all the top military who never lost their jobs after Abu Ghraib--

I could go on and on, but I won't. We've elections coming up to win and seats to retain, you know....

Where, in America, history is thought to belong. (History? Even last week.)

Please, however, do go on and on; perhaps someone will hear you, or already has. :-)

were leaning heavily toward the idea that the leadership or lack of it is the atrocity. Also it is not the troops that need the ethical training so much as the leadership in the military and Bush and his administration. Comments were coming in from around the world. I could only look at the first ten pages.

We know, thanks to Murpha and Hersh, that the generals are afraid. Their toy is breaking. There is a real danger of losing much more than a war.

While it isn't in institutional nature to correct evils such as Haditha (cf. My Lai, cf. Tiger Force), the panic felt in certain quarters about our tottering military could latch itself onto the scandal--perhaps unconsciously, certainly cautiously--and emerge, weirdly, as reform.

Today, the inertia, greed, stupidity, amnesia, derangement and cowardice in Washington make fortunate accidents likelier than purposive deeds. See, for instance, the way the bursting housing bubble is creating a Doh! moment for the rebirth of lending regulations.

Not much of a hope, but something. Surely there is no outlook for reform from any other quarter, least of all from where the "Stronger America" DLC Democrats do their cowering.