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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:03 AM
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Iraq - 2 Hotels Attacked
The Palestine hotel and another hotel have been bombed. Few details and no link as of yet.

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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:08 AM
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1. Not much info
Blasts heard at hotels in Baghdad


A series of explosions have been reported at hotels in the centre of the Iraqi capital, Baghdad.

Two rocket-propelled grenades appear to have been fired at the Palestine Hotel and blasts were also heard at the Sheraton Hotel nearby.

bit more

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3225626.stm
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:57 AM
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26. BRINKS HOTEL-- Saigon Dec 24, 1964
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 08:01 AM by saigon68
Photograph of the Destruction After a Terrorist Bomb Exploded Underneath the Brinks Hotel in Saigon

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At 5:55 p.m. on December 24, 1964, Viet Cong terrorists exploded a bomb in the garage area underneath the Brinks Hotel in Saigon, South Vietnam. The hotel, housing 125 military and civilian guests, was being used as officers' billets for U.S. Armed Forces in the Republic of Vietnam. Two Americans were killed, and 107 Americans, Vietnamese, and Australians were injured. Small buildings at the rear of the Brinks Hotel were completely destroyed by the force of the blast. 12/24/1964

http://history1900s.about.com/library/photos/blyviet26.htm

The more things change the more they remain the SAME.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:58 AM
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27. You can find the lates here:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:08 AM
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2. Two Explosions Hit Central Baghdad Hotel - Witnesses (Reuters)
Two Explosions Hit Central Baghdad Hotel - Witnesses
Fri November 21, 2003 12:01 AM ET

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Two explosions on Friday morning rocked the Sheraton Hotel, used by many Western journalists and contractors, in central Baghdad, Reuters witnesses said.

The neighboring Palestine Hotel also appeared to have been hit around the 16th or 17th floor, a Reuters witness said.

Sheraton hotel guests, who evacuated the building, saw shards of glass scattered across the lobby. They said several people were at least slightly injured.

At least two holes were punched in windows at the Sheraton, witnesses said. A security guard at a nearby building said he had seen a rocket or rocket-propelled grenade fly through the air toward the hotel.

REUTERS
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:19 AM
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3. Looks like they're watching more cable news than we are.
A US general said yesterday that attacks in Baghdad were down sharply, so they hit two hotels housing journalists. The US says Iraq is the central fron in the war on terrorism and they conduct 4 bombings in Turkey in two weeks. The US says the oil is now flowing and they hit the pipelines. The US says the south is safe and they bomb the Italians. The US says the north is safe and they take down helicopters, kill a mayor, and set off car bombs around Mosul. It goes on and on. Was it a coincidence that at the time Bush and Blair are about to hold a joint press conference, someone blows up the British Consulate?

The US should shut up about how great things are in certain areas because it's like painting a bulls eye on their foreheads.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:23 AM
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4. CNN: One person was carried from the hotel on a stretcher, soaked in blood
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 12:24 AM by IndianaGreen
Rockets hit two hotels in Baghdad
U.S. soldier dies in Iraq convoy bombing
Friday, November 21, 2003 Posted: 0509 GMT ( 1:09 PM HKT)


Witnesses said at least two rockets hit the upper floors of the Palestine Hotel, where CNN is based.

One person was carried from the hotel on a stretcher, soaked in blood, according to CNN's Jane Arraf.

The nearby Sheraton Hotel also appeared to have been attacked about the same time, also with rockets.

Both hotels are heavily guarded with coalition forces, surrounded by tanks and concrete barriers.

CNN staff said they could see damage to the 12th, 15th and 16th floors of the 18-story building from the attack that took place about 7:10 a.m. (11:10 a.m. ET).

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/20/sprj.irq.main/index.html
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:29 AM
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5. I guess the success of operation Iron Blather was overrated.
It really makes me sick, because I HATE to see this, and
yet I laugh my ass off when I think about how badly these
dipshits have screwed themselves (and us).
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:14 AM
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32. No! These attacks are sure signs of progress!
Didn't you hear the Chimpmander In Chief say so?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:36 AM
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6. Operation Iron Boomerang--backATCHA!
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:40 AM
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7. but...but....attacks are decreasing!!!
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:48 AM
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8. Don't post crap like this. We are only allowed to speak of the
new evildoer now until the election... Michael Jackson is way more important than this because it concerns.... SEX!!!!

That's how they pitched it at Bill. When all else fails, bring up SEX and the American public will react in Pavlovian fervor to the SEX bell and forget about all else.

</sarcasm>
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Holly Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:53 AM
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10. What I really want to know
Is what Michael had for dinner tonight. Maybe they could get a reporter over see Scott Peterson and ask the important questions.
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:00 AM
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12. My dad is an LA peace officer--he said this in his recent e-mail
Every network has filled their air time with this trash. What's the big deal?

I've worked for and against some of the principles including Atty Geragos and Santa Barbara DA Snedley. Snedley is an egotistical prick who has never handled a case of note. He was on TV yesterday. He would not shut up and refused to relinquish the mike to the Sheriff who wanted to talk.

Executing the search warrant was a thing of beauty. 70 police officers (probably 90% of the force) were involved. A real publicity coup for the sheriffs office. After Geragos negotiated Jackson's surrender and delivered him to the court, the sheriffs still cuffed him. (I'm sure on Snedley's orders). Did they think that little weirdo was going to make a break for it? He did come there on his own free will! Snedley repeated that the victims parents had no desire to capitalize on this. Today it was announced that the Atty who represented the previous alleged victim is now representing this family. If they're not after money, why would they need an atty?

Jackson must be really stupid. And how about the victims parents? What do you suppose I would have said if he would have come to our house years ago and said " could Johnnie and Timmy come to Never Neverland for a sleep over?"

Geragos is a really good atty. He represented Susan McDougall of Whitewater fame. He also has the Peterson case in Modesto. He'll win that one in my opinion.


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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:01 AM
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13. Stay tuned to any of the three cable news tabloids and you'll learn
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 01:03 AM by Billy_Pilgrim
how many sheets of TP he uses and get a critique of his wiping form.
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:53 AM
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9. Oil ministry hit too
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 12:55 AM by hussar
Two Baghdad Hotels, Oil Ministry Hit by Rockets
Fri November 21, 2003 12:48 AM ET

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Rockets on Friday slammed into the Iraqi oil ministry and two central Baghdad hotels used by Western contractors and journalists, wounding several people, police and witnesses said.

Three rockets had hit the oil ministry, which was ablaze, police said.

Guests evacuated the Sheraton and Palestine hotels, located in a fortified compound near the Tigris river, after the buildings were hit by rockets. Guests saw shards of glass and fragments of plaster and concrete scattered across the floors

Witnesses said at the hotels said they had seen several people with at least light wounds. A security guard said two people had been taken to hospital.

Police officers near the scene said a man had fired rockets from a launcher hidden on a donkey cart. A U.S. soldier at the scene said the rockets were RPG-7 rocket-propelled grenades.

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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:57 AM
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11. coordinated, sophisticated attacks
and what's the major headline? jacko!
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:19 AM
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24. So the oil ministry was hit?
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 05:54 AM by Sick of Bullshit
You mean, the only Iraqi ministry that was protected by the Coalition of the Coerced in the early days, just got the crap blasted out of it?
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:05 AM
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14. BRING 'EM ON!
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:11 AM
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15. Check this out from BBC:
Our correspondent saw one man being brought out of the Palestine with serious blast injuries - apparently from flying glass. It seems, he adds, that four projectiles were launched from the donkey cart.

DONKEY CART!

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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:15 AM
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16. they're beating us with fucking donkey carts?
what the fuck is this?

"let's see, we'll do a strip search on this young iraqi girl and infuriate her father and brothers......but these somewhat shady looking gentlemen with the rpg's in the donkey cart may proceed past the checkpoint"
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:19 AM
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18. Yeah, that $87b is really going far
Oh, for hell's sake...
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:26 AM
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20. Of course they are: we're racists
Uncle Remus knew this trick years ago. The dominant culture has a sign system for the dangerous and the non-dangerous slaves.

All's you got to do is play the non-dangerous slave til you wan do otherwise.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:59 AM
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31. We are on it! The Donkinator 5000 series.Today major ......
Defense contractors have formed a consortium and have a prototype "Domesticated Animal Base Launcher" to keep up in the "Live Quad" mode of attacks. Estimates range in the 2 billion dollar range for 3 to be used Iraq.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:15 AM
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33. All donkeys and Iraqis will be subjected to full cavity search...
watch and see what happens when they try a full cavity search on a camel.
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:15 AM
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17. Here's the vehicle used in the attack.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:06 AM
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22. I can't stop laughing at this pic
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:19 AM
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34. Hilarious!
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:20 AM
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19. What could be less threatening
than an older Iraqi man, head draped in red cloth, sun-baked skin with little white beard and mustache stubble, driving along a donkey to market with his cart, a home spun blanket probably keeping the flies off the fresh melon in the cart, though there do seem to be quite a few strangely shaped melons - but O my shining stars and streamers! - it's all so Middle Eastern, dontcha know, all so exotic, a picture of times past when we were a more humble people, yes. What could be less threatening than this simple old peasant, with his cart...

weeeeeeeeeBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM,
mutherfucker

Welcome to the world you Western shitbirds....
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:46 AM
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21. It's Things Like This
That warms my Bush-hating-therefore-America-hating heart

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:23 AM
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23. mission accomplished!
hell, we just had new combat ops last week and they're firing rockets
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:31 AM
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25. This NY Times reporter was 50ft from where the rockets hit
At both hotels, there are a large number of American officials protected by uniformed American troops of the First Armored Division. American soldiers were quickly at the scene, clearing rooms and ushering guests down fire stairwells.

After Friday's strikes on the two floors of the Palestine Hotel hit by the rockets, guests milled about the corridors in their nightclothes, stepping over rubble and into air thick with soot and grime, as a loudspeaker urged then to go down stairwells to the ground. Guests in the room close to where the rockets struck - including this reporter, whose room was 50 feet away from one of the strikes - heard what appeared at first to be a single explosion, suggesting that the weapon used against the hotel might have been a multiple rocket launcher of the type used on Oct. 26 against the Rashid Hotel, base for many senior American military and intelligence officials. One person was killed in that attack.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/21/international/middleeast/21BAGH.html?hp
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:32 AM
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28. Tonight on FOx!! When Donkeys attack!
How does one "conceal" missileS on a donkey?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:04 AM
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29. Hidden in the Cart
subtle
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:10 AM
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30. Yeah I found this pick, very tricky are those donkeys
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 09:11 AM by underpants
Now I know it looks a lot like the cart that was used last month but this you see was being pulled by donkeys not behind a truck.

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