Hundreds Of Iraqi Soldiers Deserting

BAGHDAD, June 10, 2006 (UPI) -- Erratic pay, inadequate food and poor living conditions are driving several hundred Iraqi soldiers out of the army every month.

Lt. Moktat Uosef is a company commander in the 4th Brigade of the 7th Iraqi Army Division. U.S. Marines working with the brigade told Stars and Stripes, the U.S. armed forces newspaper, that its strength dropped from 2,200 soldiers in December to 1,400 in May.

"Many of my soldiers have not gotten paid in six months," Uosef said. "Sometimes, they don't eat for two or three days at a time. I tell my commander, but what else am I supposed to do?"

Desertions are a major problem in Anbar Province, the major stronghold of the insurgency. But officials say logistical problems are hurting morale far more than danger is.

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_21222607.shtml

the BFEE striving for world peace.


NOT

There are lot of Quisling Iraqis lining their pockets.

In the real NAM the ARVN (Army of Viet_Nam)

Uncle Sugar paid the local Puppets Billions of dollars for troop salaries and rations

Unfortunately many units were simply paper Units with NO TROOPS

The local officials simply transferred the US dollars into Swiss Banks

And when the fall of the puppet Thieu government happened. The local Quisling puppets simply boogied out to Paris, Europe and Los Angeles, and are living there today on the largess given them by another group of US fools, who wasted your tax dollars.

W's new world order. Corporate profits never higher, all others hurt.

When Saddam Hussein was in charge, there was terrific discipline within the Iraqi military and the police.

Because, if you fucked up, you were killed.

See what happens when you go all squishy and permissive?

Thanks, L. Paul Bremer.

Happy days are here again, right? :sarcasm:

Maybe you want to talk to the people who run Sunni and Shi'ite militias where all these troops who desert are going.

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to hear those reasons!

I know pay for our military can get screwed up and I hear too often of inadequate food in quality and amount for our military.

But no pay or food for them> I had no idea.

What I thought would be hard was that under our command they might be ordered to fight their own people, since most of the insurgency are Iraqis. That would be very hard if you understand why they are insurgents.

But add no pay or food? Can't believe so many stay.

This is very troubling. What is going on?

We've fucked up there in every way we could. Now there will be hell to pay.

That's all anyone needs to know. They screw up everything they touch. It's the reverse "midas" effect.

The ones who aren't deserting aren't fighting. Contrary to what our government tells us, the Iraqi troops are always at the rear of any operation. They aren't taking the lead in anything over there. They'll never be ready to go it alone without "coalition" (American) leadership. Most of them don't even want to be in the Iraqi army, it's just a job but if they aren't being paid or fed........why SHOULD they give a shit!

Unpaid, not eating for 2 or 3 days, target practice for the various insurgent groups, being seen as collaborators by Iraqis? Were they smart lads they would take their rifles and flee to the nearest hamlet completely controlled by their respective clans and stay out of the cities and hope the crop is good this year. That is what the clan is for, after all.

US stays in Iraq. We're never getting out of there with this crap. Look how the US raised an Army, Air Corps, Marines and Navy in WWII and beat back Nazi Germany (I'm not forgetting Russia and Britain played a big role) and Japan in almost the same amount of time we've been in Iraq. It's past time we demand it get done in Iraq or we're gone.

Here's link to Stars and Stripes story.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?article=37831§ion=104

BTW, someone needs to report Stars and Stripes for being unpatriotic and reporting bad news from Iraq. :sarcasm:

I guess they can get poor enough "pay, food, and living conditions" as civilians.

:headbang:
rocknation

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Iraqis in Al Anbar province leaving army in droves
Soldiers tired of poor living conditions, irregular pay


HADITHA, Iraq — Iraqi soldiers in Al Anbar province are leaving their army in droves, draining much-needed manpower from fledgling Iraqi security forces and preventing U.S. troops from reducing troop strength in the volatile region, U.S. and Iraqi military officials say.

Lousy living conditions, bad food and failure to receive regular pay are the main reasons behind the exodus, which is running at least several hundred soldiers a month, the officials say.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?article=37831§ion=104

with all the negatives re being in the Iraqi army WHY would they feel like killing their own countrymen for the sake of the country which has killed thiusands of them including little babies. Remember Shock and Awe and the pictures of the little children we killed.

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