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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:13 AM
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9/11 Thefts Not Prosecuted
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/16/AR2006061600140.html

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Dan L'Allier said he witnessed 45 tons of the New York loot being unloaded in Minnesota at his company's headquarters. He and Christopherson complained to a company executive, but were ordered to keep quiet. They persisted, going instead to the FBI.

The two whistle-blowers eventually lost their jobs, received death threats and were blackballed in the disaster relief industry. But they remained convinced their sacrifice was worth seeing justice done.

They were wrong.

Once-secret documents obtained by The Associated Press detail how the company, Kieger Enterprises of Lino Lakes, Minn., went unpunished for the Sept. 11 thefts after the government discovered FBI agents and other government officials had stolen artifacts from New York's ground zero.

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Whistle-blowers punished again. How can we ever get at the truth of corruption in this country when this is allowed over and over again?

Anyone have a list of whistle-blowers that have lost their jobs in the last 5 years?

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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:16 AM
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1. That is the culture of corruption embraced by Republicans...
Republicans are the lowest form of life on the planet. Republicans would euthanize their own mothers for a few more dollars.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:20 AM
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2. Remember how they hauled away
all the steel also? No one ever prosecuted for that either. I think I remember hearing they blamed it on organized crime.

Sure was - our government!

"I wouldn't open my mouth again for all the tea in China," L'Allier said. Added Christopherson, a 34-year-old father of two: "I paid a big price."

This statement is even more discouraging.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:20 AM
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3. What do you expect
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 06:58 AM by DoYouEverWonder
when even the Sec. of Defense proudly displays a stolen 9-11 artifact that sits on a table in his office. Nicely mounted too, I might add.

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:34 AM
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4. I almost forgot about that.
I wonder what trophy * has in his office.:grr:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:51 AM
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5. Bush probably stole Paul Wellstone's skull to keep as a trophy.
After all, the Bush family and friends do have a history of grave robbing.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:59 AM
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6. They are a bunch of ghouls. That framed pic of
Zarqawi was typical.

Ghouls!!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:59 AM
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8. The only thing they love other then themselves & money
is death and destruction.

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:08 AM
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9. All we can really hope for anymore is
"what goes around, comes around" - and I'm gradually losing faith in that.

Karma is slow with these ghouls.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:01 AM
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13. Tell you what
seems nothing can kill them either.

You ever notice neocons never die and they won't go away even?

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:06 AM
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14. There is a common facial appearance among the
neocons.

I can't think of the word to describe it, but even if you didn't know who they were the "look" is always there. Creepy.

I want our country back! :cry:
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:25 PM
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32. You mean that look that Meryl Streep and Goldie Hawn got in their
movie DEATH BECOMES HER? Perhaps all the neocons go to the same witch doctor they did.

Come to think of it, Strom Thurmond...hmmmm.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:47 PM
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35. I remember that. But it still couldn't be faked
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 09:47 PM by vickiss
to the depth it goes in the pukes.

Tight-assed plasticine zombie corpse look perhaps?
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Wise Doubter Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:25 AM
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15. Don`t forget Fear and Pain ! n/t
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:29 AM
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25. Terra, terra, terra! n/t
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:38 AM
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17. "framed pic". . . .what ru talking about?
this is the first I have heard of this. Did someone give smirk a present when he was in Baghdad?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:28 AM
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24. Check it out:
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/z/abu_musab_al_zarqawi/index.html?excamp=GGGNal-zarqawi

This was all over the place like a trophy. Why the hell would it be framed?!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:59 AM
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7. They probably keep it
Next to the Kennedy's and MLK on shelf in Poppy's trophy room.

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:32 AM
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26. The *'s have taught me
that there truly is evil in this world, more than anything else ever has, other than Hitler's regime.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:30 AM
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16. Saddam's Pistol, for One Trophy
Maybe Geronimo summers in crawford?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:17 AM
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23. No, Geronimo had more integrity. Osama vacations
in Crawford.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:33 AM
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27. Damn, forgot that one also! This is what
serial killers always do, save mementos!:puke:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:29 AM
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10. Rumsfailed stole 9/11 artifacts?????
The lead investigators for the FBI and the Federal Emergency Management Agency told AP that the plan to prosecute KEI for those thefts stopped as soon as it became clear in late summer 2002 that an FBI agent in Minnesota had stolen a crystal globe from ground zero.

That prompted a broader review that ultimately found 16 government employees, including a top FBI executive and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, had such artifacts from New York or the Pentagon.

"How could you secure an indictment?" FEMA investigator Kirk Beauchamp asked. "It would be a conflict."

While the globe's discovery had been widely reported, its impact on the Sept. 11 thefts had remained mostly unknown.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:34 AM
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11. From March 04: Rumsfeld, senior FBI official took Sept. 11 souvenirs
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department investigation that criticized FBI agents for taking souvenirs from the World Trade Center site also found that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and a high-ranking FBI official kept items from the Sept. 11 attack scenes.
The final investigatory report said the Justice Department inspector general confirmed Rumsfeld "has a piece of the airplane that flew into the Pentagon." The Associated Press obtained a copy of the report Friday.

Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said Friday night that Rumsfeld has a shard of metal from the jetliner that struck the Pentagon on a table in his office and shows it to people as a reminder of the tragedy Pentagon workers shared on Sept. 11, 2001.

"He doesn't consider it his own," Di Rita said, adding the piece is on display for the Pentagon. "We are mindful of the fact that if somebody has an evidentiary requirement to have this shard of metal, we will provide it to them

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-03-13-rumsfeld-sept11_x.htm
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:20 AM
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18. A lot of serial killers love to keep souvenirs, too.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:36 AM
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29. Exactly. n/t
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:59 AM
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21. Pisses me off that they buried that little tidbit halfway down the story
It's like paragraph 16 or 17.

If I was writing this article, and yes, I am a journalist, I would have made sure that would be up in the top three paragraphs.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:34 AM
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28. Something to show their "friends" when
they are bragging.

Despicable isn't it?!
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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:48 AM
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12. The attacks were not prosecuted either!
They complicit members of the administration are still in office! Why should the little guys go to jail when the culprits are still walking free?

http://tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_facts.html
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:37 AM
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30. And at the rate we're going legislatively
no one will ever be brought to justice either.:grr:
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:45 AM
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19. Can't imagine why...
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:39 AM
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31. Huge surprise there.
NOT!

$500, but of course that's only the reported "donation".
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:48 AM
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20. Bugger ... I thought this was going to be about the share deals ...
... you know, the very large anomalous trades in UA & AA just
before they lost a couple of planes ...

... but no, some thefts are kept very quiet indeed ...
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:15 AM
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22. Very quiet. It stuns the mind that no one
investigated those massive increase in put options.:shrug:

I read that put options increased nearly 1000% in that 2 week period, IIRC. Nothing suspicious about that. :sarcasm:

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LouisianaLiberal Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:46 PM
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33. I guarantee they investigated the put options.
But once they found out who placed them, they didn't want US to know. So the issue quietly went away.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:48 PM
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34. indeed.
and it wasn't so much that they didn't want US to know as it wouldn't have behooved them to let us know, to say the least.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:50 PM
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36. I would consider betting on that and
I don't gamble.

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