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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:45 AM
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Lamont Tagged By `Bear' Spot (Lieberman even MORE desperate?)
http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-thebear0616.artjun16,0,1785681.story?coll=hc-headlines-home

Remember the snoring bear?

He starred in a commercial Joseph I. Lieberman famously used in 1988 to unseat Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr., portraying him as a sleeping bear who missed key Senate votes. Well, the bear is back.

<snip>

The spot offers a new rationale for Lamont's challenge: It's not about Lieberman's support for the war in Iraq; it's about avenging Weicker's loss 18 years ago.

"Remember Lowell Weicker? Well, bears never forget. He's never gotten over losing his Senate race to Joe Lieberman," a narrator says, as a bear roars. "But instead of coming out of hibernation, he's sent his bear cub, instead. Ned Lamont."

<snip>

But Lamont's campaign manager, Tom Swan, said drawing parallels to 1988 may be a bad idea for the senator, since Lamont could make the same argument today that Lieberman offered 18 years ago to The New York Times:

"I'm an underdog. But it's a winnable race. This is an incumbent a lot of people don't like. There are a lot of people who feel that 18 years is enough for a senator."
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:46 AM
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1. Someone alert...
Colbert.
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:47 AM
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2. i thought
elephants never forgot??
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:41 AM
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17. And Lieberman didn't.
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 09:54 AM by kgfnally
How very... apt.

edited to add: Here's a response to this. Have a very simple ad with Lieberman's face and a faint outline of a donkey. Have that grow larger slowly while describing the prior loss to Lieberman.

Then the punchline: the donkey outline quickly morphs into an elephant, with some silly sound effect. Narrator: "The old saying Joe Lieberman mangled really does seem to be true: an elephant never forgets."

Overlaid now by the outline of an elephant, ala an oft-used logo by the GOP.

Fin.

Second edit: "Bears never forget?" :wtf: Everyone already knew it was elephants who never forget, per the old saying about elephants. By calling him out like I described above, we can make him look stupid and appear as a longtime traitor to the party in one swift (ha ha) stroke.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:48 PM
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31. And Stewart!
He'd love this.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:48 AM
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3. That's got to be one of the lamest ads I've ever heard of.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:56 AM
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13. Me, too. If this is the best Joe can come up with, it's a good thing he's
about to be Senate history.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:49 AM
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4. well, Lowell Weicker looks pretty damn good right now too!
Has it really been 18 years? Jeez, a whole new generation has come up since ol' Joe went to DC,
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 05:29 PM
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27. Sorry to say but Weicker still has some folks riled up against him
Weicker brought us the state income tax, an unforgivable sin to many nutmeggers, even tho he also lowered the sales tax as a trade off. Since the sales tax is regressive and the income tax is progressive I was in favor of the income tax, but it was a hard sell to a lot of people who couldn't care less about Economics 101.

So Lieberman is playing on some old, old animosities with this ad.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:53 AM
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5. Wow, it's all revenge against Lieb! It's a CONSPIRACY!!!
Who'd have ever thought that Weicker is devious enough and powerful enough to manipulate the internet and the Democratic caucuses and the voters of Lieb's state to push a candidate for the sole dark purpose of unseating the great and respected Senator Joe Lieberman! Unbelievable! Shocking! Incredible!

...Yes, "incredible" is a good word to describe this.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:00 AM
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6. Are the Same Voters Still Around 18 Years Later ???
Not familiar with CT politics, but it seems that demographic shifts would mean that a portion of voters weren't around 18 years ago to remember Lowell Weicker.

I am certain Joe polled on this - otherwise they wouldn't spend the money. Maybe these are the voters Liebermann needs back in his camp.

In fact, now that I think of it as I type, this ad probably means he needs to remind the electorate of why they voted for him in the first place. Getting back to his base. This would mean he has been losing his base.

I'd say if an incumbent is doing that, then he is in trouble with the voters.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:58 AM
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15. some of us were around but most won't remember the bear ad from the first
time around. I don't, for one, and I was a CT voter at the time.
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virgdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:16 PM
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24. I was around in 1988 and voted for Weicker...
I sure as hell don't remember that bear ad and I pay attention to political ads. I wish that I lived in CT so I could vote against this a**hole again. My vote for Weicker was the one and only time I ever voted for a Republican (although I couln't really classify Weicker as a true Republican at that time).
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 05:33 PM
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29. Weicker's party was, I believe, "A Connecticut Party" n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 05:31 PM
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28. See my post above about Weicker and the income tax
Lotsa people ain't forgettin' that one!

I agree, though, that there is alot of new blood here since that all happened. Still, I remember how angry people were at the time...
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:09 AM
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7. Here's the ad-
It's a cartoon, and he's given Ned a high, girlish voice. Subtle :eyes:

http://69.56.129.130/~joe2006//index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=30&page=view&catid=8&PageNo=1&key=2&hit=1
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:56 AM
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12. That's Stupid
really stupid.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:06 AM
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16. OMG, Lieberbush approved THAT?! How embarassing to have him as my senator
based on that ad alone, not to mention his kissy face with BushCo.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:12 AM
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8. I don't think Joe likes having to run a real campaign
Lamont could run his own animal-themed ad, though. Instead of the Weicker sleeping bear, he could portray Joe as a bull tearing through a china shop with his votes for the invasion of Iraq and his continued support for this ongoing atrocity.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:54 PM
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25. Or, even better...
Instead of the Weicker sleeping bear, he could portray Joe as a bull tearing through a china shop with his votes for the invasion of Iraq and his continued support for this ongoing atrocity.


Instead of a bull, make him a donkey with an elephant's trunk, or simply an elephant dressed in a donkey costume that keeps slipping off...

:evilgrin:



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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:28 AM
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9. wow.desperation smells.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:53 AM
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10. My answer to Ned Lamont is to run an ad...
... featuring Troy Hurtubise.



Ned Lamont cannot appear to be soft on bears.

Bears are godless eating machines that want our honey.

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:54 AM
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11. Hey Lieberman, leave the bears alone!
And yes, cubs do what they're told, but it's about voting. :evilgrin:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:57 AM
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14. How DARE someone run a campaign against Joe... and during a PRIMARY!
It's not as if there is some sort of "democratic process" in which different "candidates" take adversarial positions to be "elected" by "voters" to a seat in Congress at the end of some kind of "term."

Imagine, the GALL Ned Lamont must have!

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:56 AM
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18. He really does act like he deserves the seat
without having to prove it, doesn't he?

Schmuck.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:21 AM
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23. LIEberman was much funnier on ALF. n/t
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:00 AM
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19. Too bad California didn't pull a "Lamont" on Feinstein.
:banghead:
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:10 AM
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20. Sounds like he is going
to run as a Independent if this ad is any indication...he's positioned himself as an alternative to the GOP and the Democrat 'pretender'?

Just a thought...
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:21 AM
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21. What a dorky attack ad
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 10:23 AM by Strawman
Woo hoo! Consider yourself "zinged" there, Ned Lamont! :eyes:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:25 AM
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22. So f'n pathetic!!!
:nopity: :eyes:
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 05:19 PM
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26. That's as pathetic as the "Wolves" ad * used against Kerry.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:47 PM
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30. Good Retort! 18 years and a bush
lover to boot!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:49 PM
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32. Today is payday. It's time I sent this Lamont gentleman a check. n/t
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 06:50 PM by Dr Fate
n/t
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:51 PM
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33. Dukakis in a tank, 2006.
I posted this earlier in GD:

Once every few campaign cycles we get to witness a defining moment in a political campaign, for good or ill - but for some reason the bad ones seem to make a much bigger impression. Think Dukakis in a tank or Poppy Bush in front of the bar code scanner. Those are two prime examples of defining moments that sealed the fate of the candidates involved. In Dukakis' case, it supplied his opponents, the media, and every comedian in America with a permanent image of a presidential candidate looking like a complete idiot. In Bush's case, it marked him as so out of touch he didn't know what a gallon of milk cost and had no idea that there was such a thing as a bar code scanner. In short, forever marked as completely out of touch with America. Not even 'Message: I care' (yet another misstep) could bring him back.

The derisive backlash against Lieberman's 'Bears' ad could be worse than both of the above examples, because it makes Lieberman look both out of touch and completely buffoonish. Buffoonish, of course, because of the total lameness of the ad, and out of touch because he apparently bought into the idea that this could in some way be an effective ad.

Lieberman could not possibly have been more wrong.

http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=20060616173223696

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:02 PM
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34. And it should have been
bush reading "The Pet Goat" but ..I don't know what happened. The Dems too nice?
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