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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 03:40 PM
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Judge Who Ruled Death Penalty Unconstitutional Sentences Man to Death
BURLINGTON, VERMONT (AP) -- A man who kidnapped a supermarket worker and killed her as she prayed for her life was sentenced Friday to die, the first person to get the death penalty in Vermont in almost a half-century. Donald Fell, 26, was sentenced by a federal judge who once ruled the death penalty unconstitutional.

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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 03:45 PM
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1. He has to execute the law
even if he disagrees with it.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 03:50 PM
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2. Yep ... I'd would have hated to be in his position.
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truthInCO Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:15 PM
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3. Victim understands its what he deserves. Who is judge to disagree?
A man convicted in the fatal beating of a grandmother as she prayed for her life became the first person sentenced to death in Vermont in half a century Friday.

Donald Fell, 26, said what he did "was horrible and wrong" as he apologized before U.S. District Court Judge William Sessions III formally sentenced him to die.

"I know the wounds will never heal," Fell said. "If it comes down to it in the end that I do die, I understand that it's no less than what I deserve. I truly am sorry."


Now this is a good example of accountability and accepting responsibility for his actions. I understand that beating a grandmother to death as she prays for her life doesn't warrant a death sentence in most peoples eyes, but at least the perpetrator recognized the rules were in place before he did it.


Today I will speed on the way home, full well knowing I am a lawbreaker, and willing to accept the consequences.

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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:26 PM
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4. You understand?
<<I understand that beating a grandmother to death as she prays for her life doesn't warrant a death sentence in most peoples eyes>>

I don't think you do understand. The man who killed this grandmother might deserve horrible things, its true. There are many reasons to oppose the death penalty that have nothing to do with whether or not someone deserves it.
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truthInCO Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:30 PM
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5. not my words
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 04:31 PM by truthInCO
Mr. Terry King, speaking in his own defense, used the word "deserved".


And I don't know what you mean by "might deserve horrible things", what did you have in mind?


My point was simply that he recognized the "fine" was in place, like it or hate it, it wasn't a surprise.

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zreosumgame Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:38 PM
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6. it was not the perps words, it was your snarky
repsonse later in your post, YOUR words not the killers. And it is not one individual case that most people object to the death penalty over, it is the way it is imposed and carried out in this country that is objected to.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 04:56 PM
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7. What you said?
<<I understand that beating a grandmother to death as she prays for her life doesn't warrant a death sentence in most peoples eyes>>

If these are not your words, my apology. What are you saying here? My point is seperating what someone might or might not deserve from the death penalty itself.

<<what did you have in mind?>> That's clever; see above.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 05:35 PM
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8. There's no need for a death penalty. Death penalty cases cost more
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 05:36 PM by lindisfarne
than keeping a prisoner for life. In the most heinous cases, a life sentence with no chance of parole is more cost effective, protects society, and doesn't lower society to the level of killing. The US is quite uncivilized in allowing the death penalty to exist.

The problem here is that the death penalty is allowed - not what the judge did.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:58 PM
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13. Re: Death penalty cases cost more than keeping a prisoner for life.
You don't have to watch a dead man 24/7
You don't have to feed a dead man.
You don't have to house a dead man.

...So why would it cost us more to keep him alive?
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:07 PM
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14. Some studies
"$ Kansas Study Concludes Death Penalty is Costly Policy
In its review of death penalty expenses, the State of Kansas concluded that capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-death penalty cases. The study counted death penalty case costs through to execution and found that the median death penalty case costs $1.26 million. Non-death penalty cases were counted through to the end of incarceration and were found to have a median cost of $740,000. For death penalty cases, the pre-trial and trial level expenses were the most expensive part, 49% of the total cost. The costs of appeals were 29% of the total expense, and the incarceration and execution costs accounted for the remaining 22%. In comparison to non-death penalty cases, the following findings were revealed:"

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108&scid=7#From%20DPIC

But for me, it's not all about the cost. I refuse to want the state to lower itself to killing.
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Biernuts Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:55 PM
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17. It's an average cost - because of all the appeals in death
penalty cases, the legal fees tend to outweigh the price of life in prison.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:09 PM
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9. The victim's acceptance or rejection isn't actually relevant
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 06:10 PM by daleo
If you went through the records, you could probably find people who had been burnt by the Inquisition who thought the judgement was fair when it was handed down. The rightness or wrongness of a judgment goes beyond what the people actually involved think about it. That's the basic principle behind the notion of the rule of law.
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Llewlladdwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:00 PM
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10. Are some of you actually suggesting....
that beating a grandmother to death doesn't merit the death penalty?
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:52 PM
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12. Yes I am
I am always against the DP.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:12 PM
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15. damn straight I Am
no death penalty even for Bush.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:40 PM
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16. Nothing merits the state reducing itself to a killer in the name of justic
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:14 PM
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11. Good for him.
This jagoff certainly deserves the DP and he himself acknowledges that fact. So why not just take him out and hang him now? Saves time, money and resources better used on deserving people.
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