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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 05:11 PM
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Round One To Conservationists At IWC (whale killers lose, 32 to 30)
The Minister of Conservation is declaring round one to the conservationists at the annual International Whaling Commission meeting in the Caribbean nation of St Kitts and Nevis.

Two major issues were voted on in the first session this morning, with the Japanese-led pro-whaling lobby losing both of them.

The first vote to take the conservation of pilot whales, dolphins and porpoises off the agenda was defeated by two votes, 32 to 30.

And a proposition calling for secret ballots was voted down by three.

New Zealand’s Minister of Conservation Chris Carter says there has been tense debate, with Japan accusing the anti-whaling lobby of trying to bully smaller nations.

Mr Carter says it is too early to say whether the anti-whaling nations have a majority, since two Japan supporters - Gambia and Senegal - have yet to arrive.

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http://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=322278&catid=0


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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 05:13 PM
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1. AP: Pro-whaling nations lose commission vote
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 05:14 PM by Barrett808
Pro-whaling nations lose commission vote
ADAM RANEY
Associated Press

FRIGATE BAY, St. Kitts - Pro-whaling nations, led by Japan, lost the first major vote of the International Whaling Commission's annual meeting Friday - an indication they may not have the majority necessary to take control of the body and try to repeal its ban on commercial hunting.

Japan sought to remove the issue of hunting dolphins and porpoises from the agenda of the 70-member IWC but failed by a 32-30 vote.

A key vote against the measure came from Belize, a small Central American country that has received aid from Japan and had been expected by environmental groups to support it on the whaling commission.

At the meeting, Japan and other pro-whaling nations have been expected to form a majority on the international body for the first time since a 1986 ban on commercial whaling.

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http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/14837005.htm

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life long demo Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:10 AM
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8. Pro-Whaling nations lose
Why is this a cause for celebration?  With a vote of 32-30
that is terrible.  I remember when it was only Japan, Russia,
I think Norway, and maybe a 1 or 2 more that were pushing for
increase whaling.  
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:21 AM
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9. Because Japan has bought votes for three decades
and there was a great deal of concern that they'd finally scrounged up enough votes to end the moratorium on commercial whaling. They did have the numbers, but some of the bought countries didnt bother to show up for the IWC meeting and another voted against them.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:01 PM
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2. Good news. Recommended. NT
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:29 PM
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3. can't help but wonder what Senegal and Gambia
might have to make them support whaling. Seems like it's as irrelevant to their economies as, say sealing in Canada. Unless it's a case of quid pro quo from Japan and Norway.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:47 AM
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6. Money Probably Talked
Money probably talked. I suspect that Japan probably has been giving some foreign aid to those countries and that helped influence their vote.

Personally, I think that foreign aid is a fine tool for international diplomacy. It's considerably cheaper than blustering threats, trade embargoes, or military intervention. However, thanks to over fifty years of drum-beat right-wing propaganda, foreign aid is not a tool that's as readily available to the US as it once was.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:29 AM
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12. It's called "Bribery and Corruption"
When there is enough cash on (or under) the table, the buyers get
the answer they want.

Sometimes it will be due to the corruption of the recipient
(i.e., the cash ends up in the politicians pocket) but sometimes
it will be from a very genuine desire to get income & aid to the
country itself and the highest bidder wins.

Prostitution writ large except in this case, it's the whales that
get f*cked rather than humans.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:15 PM
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4. Hurrah! Man's inhumanity to earth! I saw Gore's documentary
today and I am psyched.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:34 PM
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5. Outstanding! Here's the BBC coverage with lots of links:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5085730.stm

This is a relief and also a surprise: it really looked like Japan had bought enough votes to break the majority vote of the conservationists:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1432124
thread title (6-15-06): Guardian/UK: Japan Buys Votes to Take Control of Whaling Body
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:08 AM
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7. Round Two: Japan to table whaling 'roadmap' - BBC
Last Updated: Saturday, 17 June 2006, 07:01 GMT 08:01 UK

Japan to table whaling 'roadmap'
By Richard Black
Environment correspondent, BBC News website in St Kitts

Japan is to table its proposal for a move towards a return to commercial whaling on day two
of the International Whaling Commission annual meeting.

It says future whaling would be sustainable, with safeguards including independent observers
and set quotas.

On the first day of the meeting in St Kitts, Japan lost two key votes, one which would have
ended IWC work on conserving dolphins and porpoises.

But new arrivals could tip the balance of power.

At the end of the first day delegates from Togo and Cameroon arrived and paid their
subscriptions, entitling them to vote.
<snip>

Full article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5089826.stm
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:53 AM
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10. Sea Shepherd: Japan Fails to Take Control of the IWC
Japan Fails to Take Control of the IWC
Sea Shepherd News
News Releases
06/16/2006

Whale conservationists are smiling today as the International Whaling Commission meeting opened. The Japanese have failed again this year in their aggressive effort to buy votes to control the agenda of the International Whaling Commission (IWC).

They did not succeed in getting all their puppet nations to show up or vote for their pro-whaling initiatives.

The whales have won over the whalers for another year.

At the first vote of the IWC meeting in St. Kitts & Nevis, the Japanese motioned for a discussion on conservation of small cetaceans to be struck from the agenda. The Japanese motion was defeated 32 to 30.

Japan then motioned for a secret ballot to decide issues hoping that nations would vote in favor of whaling if they were anonymous. That motion failed 33 to 30.

It does not appear that Japan, Norway, and Iceland can muscle the required majority votes to control the 70-member International Whaling Commission.

A couple of member nations did not show up for the meetings. Israel joined the IWC as a pro-whale conservation vote and some members leaning towards Japan have been swayed by their own citizens who lean in favor of the whales over the bribes of the whalers.

“This is great news for the whales,” said Captain Paul Watson. “Japan will not make any gains this year at the IWC and for another year at least the whales are safe on paper under the law. However, the renegade illegal activities of Japan and Norway will continue and once again we must voyage to the remote and hostile waters of the Southern Oceans to search out and stop the illegal slaughter. Japan’s failure to control the IWC keeps the legal credibility for our intervention solidly in our court. Once again, we will be hunting criminal whalers in Antarctic waters.”

Japan has responded to the failure to muster the votes in a very childlike manner. Jouji Morishita, the director of International negotiations on whaling for the Japanese Fisheries Agency, said Japan may decide to pull out of the IWC unless the ban on commercial whaling is overturned.

http://seashepherd.org/news/media_060616_2.html

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:49 PM
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11. Hell, yes.
Driven by greed, waking the dead...good luck, assholes.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:02 PM
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13.  Whaling and gnashing of teethBy Guardian Unlimited
Monday June 19 2006

Whaling and gnashing of teeth
By Guardian Unlimited /
Science 03:36pm

With pro-whaling nations winning their first vote at the International Whaling Commission since 1986, the body seems to be turning into an international-level version of the board game Risk, writes David Fickling.

More than half of the countries that voted in favour of the motion have no significant history of whaling (some are landlocked) and have only joined the commission since 2000. Less attention has been focused on the fact that the anti-whaling nations have been fighting back.

While 18 new pro-whaling nations have joined the IWC since 2000, 11 countries have signed up on the other side. For what it's worth, the new anti-whaling members are even more likely to be landlocked: they include the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Luxembourg, and, absurdly, San Marino.

As with Risk, the main tactic of the pro and anti-whaling blocs is to acquire as many territories as possible before trying to overwhelm the opposition.
(snip/...)

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2006/06/19/whaling_and_gnashing_of_teeth.html
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