America set to hit 300 million ... Milestone baby likely to be Hispanic

CNN/AP: America set to hit 300 million and counting ...
Milestone baby likely to be Hispanic
Sunday, June 25, 2006

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. population is on target to hit 300 million this fall and it's a good bet the milestone baby -- or immigrant -- will be Hispanic.

No one will know for sure because the date and time will be just an estimate.

But Latinos -- immigrants and those born in this country -- are driving the population growth, accounting for almost half the increase last year, more than any other ethnic or racial group.

White non-Hispanics, who make up about two-thirds of the population, accounted for less than one-fifth of the increase.

When the population reached 200 million in 1967, there was no accurate tally of U.S. Hispanics. The first effort to count Hispanics came in the 1970 census, and the results were dubious....

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/25/us.population.300million.ap/index.html

Doggone it, John Gibson! Looks like white people aren't reproducting fast enough, despite your nationally broadcast entreaties! What are you and Faux News going to do about it?

is because everybody and their dog caters to him. Eventhing is bi-lingual these days. He doesn't have to learn English. I'm not being critical or racist because that it is. Look around and see for yourself. We Americans are to blame for letting the goverment and business set it up that way.

at times have +5 different instructions in different lenguages. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Having said that it is quite ignorant to think that a kid in the US would not have to speak English. Maybe they actually have an advantage over the average American who only speak one language.

and I really don't give a shit because I speak both Canadian French and border Spanish but the right wingers do - look at their agenda - Immigration - Immigration - Immigration!

the post. The point you made about a kid born in the US not needing to learn English is totally idiotic. And that and the "politicians catering to hispanics" is indeed a Right Wing talking point. Latino parents ENCORAGE the learning of ENGLISH and the importance of having an education. Hispanics and Non-whites have to work HARDER than a white immigrant to get ahead and latino parents know that.

Declaring everyone "caters" to these furrin babies...

And to manage inventory better.

Stuff you buy in Poland is frequently multi-lingually packaged, but it's shipped all over the place. In Poland without some Polish ... don't leave the touristy areas of Krakow or Warszawa.

as the "pobrecito" is born wearing a sombrero, and with a leaf-blower in one tiny fit and a mexican Flag in the other... Instead of a 'first cry"..he will yell "Annnn-da-le"


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A person who couldn't speak English couldn't function. I've seen signs, etc. that are in English and Spanish, but in New York it is necessary to speak English to have a good job, and to interact at all levels.

why, there oughta be a LAW!
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But you know what i find even funnier than that? When the same people that bitch about others speaking spanish then later bitch that those same others "really know english, they're just hiding it." So what it really comes down to, is that their ears are just offended by sensing a foreign language much the same way my grandmother was offended by hearing four letter words.
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up for re-election that are spewing this "english only or get out of our country" crap - all have a re-election website in espanol!

http://www.rnc.org/espanol


(It's ok not to speak English if I can get you to vote for me)

spent any time in a place where you didn't speak the language?

And there is that little thing the Democrats used to call social justice. But I guess that so pre fake immigration crisis that it slips from memory.

Caramba.

white folks that speak any other language let alone can master the basic grammatical rules of English

Same here, and it's something the "speak English only" crowd routinely fails to acknowledge, instead repeatedly raising the bogeyman of non-English speaking Latinos invading the country.

"American" isn't a language.

As a NICU nurse who has seen way too many sick and dying babies in the past few weeks <lots of babies w/ various syndromes lately for some reason, one put on hospice care> I'm hoping for a healthy baby who is born to a happy home.

American's a language???

Where have I seen such eloquence and mastery of diction and spelling before?

Hmmm....

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than me, seriously asked me what language they spoke in England. I thought, Jesus Christ, I have to go to the same schools you did! My answer was DUHhhh, she thought for a second and then broke-up over her own stupid question.

on Caucasians. Maybe that is the problem. Perhaps, they should get help from Univision get some half naked females giving the news. I think Russia did something like that in 2000. The news reporter would strip while giving the news.

Perfect!

Why didn't anybody else catch your sarcasm?

It seemed real obvious to me, too. And since "American" isn't really a language, I thought that would be two dead giveaways. Usually DU is a LOT smarter.

if we give everyone a square foot to stand on, and the number of sq feet in the US is

sq miles (3,539,242) X 27,878,400 sq ft/sq mile = 986,684,004,172,800

then you can see we have lots of room for more people of all kinds, domestic and imported, (as long as they do not take up more than 1 sq ft). after that we can stack people on shoulders to infinity.

so let the bibilical command to go forth and multiply be followed in earnest!

Msongs

listen to our song demos!
www.msongs.com/msongsdemos.htm

"immigrant"? Are they coining a new phrase now, "American-born immigrant"? Seems like an "oxy-moran" statement on the first quick read...

But Latinos -- immigrants and those born in this country --

I know they meant "Latinos, whether immigrants or born in this country..." I got that after reading it more carefully a second time. It's probably just my reading comprehension. :silly: Between that line and the headline, the article seems invoke "Latino-phobia" or something.

My family immigrated here from Indonesia (after a short stay in Europe - Dad's original homeland), I was the "whoopsie" baby that came a year after their arrival in the good ol' U.S. of A. I was the only one that didn't have to file the paperwork for "proper" citizenship when I became "of age".

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American #300,000,000.0 could either be born in the US, or could move into the US.

Keep it up Republicans and Corporate Media.

Keep driving "those people" into the Democratic Party.

I simply cannot reconcile continued population growth in an era of decreasing energy and material resources.

Every additional person merely compounds the enormous obstacle of transitioning to a sustainable lifestyle. Conservation, increased efficiency and wise planning can only offset increased demand to a limited degree.

What about the single family home with no kids, in a 6,000 sq feet home with 3 SUV's. Don't they use increased energy and material resourses from those who need it?

and I expend no effort to defend them. However even on DU you will find many who try to justify their purchase of a SUV. I am not one of them. Although I do own an automobile I consciously try to walk as much as possible and I expect to move into an efficiency apartment from my parent's modest house with in the next month.

if we are to have any hope of living sustainably.

I don't care what color, race, ethnicity, religion or gender the 300,000,000th baby is. We already have enough people and it seems do not manage to tap the full potential of the ones we already have here.

Global population density overall is about 40 persons per square kilometer; in the US, it's 28 persons per km2. In India, the figure is over 300 people per km2. Moreover, compared to places like Africa, a far greater percentage of our land is arable.

Personally, I agree that the last thing the world needs is more people, but, as far as overpopulation is concerned, I think the US is for once not among the worst offenders. It seems like the places that really need to work on reducing their populations are places with exploding populations like India and China, and places with zero arable land like Egypt.

should increase just because some parts of the world are hugely overpopulated. I think that we should judge whether or not our population density is too much, too little or just right by considering our impact on our ecosystems and by the incredible hassle that massive sprawl creates.

In addition, our national territory includes huge areas that cannot support many people due to lack of water or extreme cold. There simply isn't much water from the western Great Plains to the Pacific Coast mountains. The Colorado River, the largest in the inter-mountain west, is almost completely taken and it no longer empties into the Gulf of California. Denver has slurped up much of the water formerly used by farmers in western Colorado. Dallas is constantly looking for water, and the Rio Grande does not normally flow into the Gulf of Mexico any more. Then there's Alaska.

What this means is that most of us are crowded into the Pacific Coast and the areas of the country east of the Mississippi.

birth control back in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. That's the thing that makes this Latinophobia so fucking humorous is that our religious institutions were down there brainwashing Latin America about the hellfires of birth control all these decades.

We've got to reverse the tide before we become as overpopulated as India.

An illegal immigrant labor camp. Once they are done building the fence, deport them. :sarcasm:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060623/ap_on_el_gu/forced_labor_camp

Follow the laws of supply and demand. Up the wages of unpleasant jobs enough so that people who are already here will do them. Then determine whether we need more people, and, if so, how many and with what skills.

fall far from the tree.

Especially compared with the world at large.

Augh, I found a good illustration of this, but I don't know how to get the link to display properly - using the normal link tags supported by this site force-displays the image, or at least tries to. I'd plug it into the page here, but it's 1300x841 pixels. Someone gimme a hand here? It's the first Google Image result for "population density" (without the quotes) from the APOD site.

I've been abroad, and I think that many, many places are too crowded now. Why should we emulate them?

In 1960, our population was 179,323,170, in 1970, 203,235,298 and in 1980, 226,549,010.

I remember those years, and believe me, there were plenty of people, but the sprawl wasn't nearly as bad, particularly in 1960 and 1970.

Just imagine how much good farmland has been gobbled up and turned into subdivisions and shopping malls since then.

It won't be long before we cannot even feed ourselves. In fact, the dollar value of our food imports now is roughly equal to that of our food exports.

I do not rejoice for an ever-increasing population.

CNN still sux.

the odds are still against it. IMO, this is a stab at keeping the illegal immigration debate alive.

if two thirds of the population, 66% (nonhispanic whites) account for only 20% of the births, who the hell is making up the difference.

you need to go into one these huge non-english speaking communities here in america and just look around. look at the number of extremely young pregnant women, most of them already with two or three children in tow.

of course the 300,000,000th "american" will probably be hispanic.

and that is a good reason why being born here should NOT give you the right of citizenship.

we can deal with the problem, or we can eventually become like india, china. at what point will the official language become bi-lingual? and at what point will the offical american language become spanish? remember, all it takes is the right number of votes.

give it 50 years. most of us may be alive to see it.

flame away. i care not. but i do NOT want third world countries recreated here, which is what is happening.

who are pregnant, but it STILL does not statistically mean the 300m will be hispanic. Look at this chart and it should become apparent as to why.

http://www.eagleton.rutgers.edu/News-Research/NewVoters/Ethnicity_tbls.html#table1

Whites, as an ethnic group make up 75% of America's population! That means on average every fourth child born in this country is a minority. That is still 3 white children to 1 minority. Doesn't even break the 50% rule; reproductive growth spurts notwithstanding.

But the percent drops as you look at younger and younger age groups. Also, whites reproduce at a lower rate than many minority groups and a white mother may give birth to a mixed race child. So,the fraction of white newborns in the population is quite different from the fraction of whites overall -- the number is lower because there is a smaller fraction of whites who are of child-bearing age and younger, because they have fewer babies, and because of the increasing number of mixed race children.

None of this matters as far as the OP is concerned, of course. There's no way to know who will be the 300,000,000th American. It was probably just the writer's dumb way of pointing out that the population has been changing, but that's hardly news.

factors OTHER than ethnicity (such as business busting up unions and eliminating the middle class...that's what most thrid world countries have in common...no REAL middle class). BTW, if there's anything I find repelling it's someone sporting a rainbow flag presumably in support of constitutional rights arguing that others that enjoy certain constitutional rights should be denied them because it's undesirable or unpalletable in some way

Then babies born here will NOT be losing their "constitutional rights." Those of the Wrong Sort will just remain in a Permanent Underclass.

We're supposed to ignore corporate anti-union policies. And rising costs of health care. And overtaxed education.

"Look, over there! It's a pregnant brown lady. Blame her!" (Say the Republican apologists.)

But again, my main point with regard to the poster above is that they are obviously sporting a rainbow flag in support of people denied their constitutional rights. Therefore it makes me wince to see them in support of denying someone else their constitutional rights. That's what Repubs do.
Furthermore, our population has been affected by many immigrants. We have a huge VietNamese population here in So Cal as a result of the Viet Nam war. We have a huge middle eastern population as a result of unrest in the middle east and our support of despotic regimes. We have a huge Nicaraguan and Salvadoran population following that war. Here's a clue. Don't want people immigrating? Try to keep our government from turning their country of origin into a shithole. :D

How were they treated when they got here?

Do children of impoverished people become poor?

Do children of gay people become gay?

Just some things to mull over.

People can become bi-lingual. Languages can't. Perhaps you need to work on your English.

How odd that concern about overpopulation shifts into concern about "certain" populations. Or, perhaps that's not odd.

who can speak English and Spanish... the job market is becoming increasingly competative with those that know both languages and the pay is usually increased for those skills. Hell, even ole' jeb bush delivers hurricane mandates in English and Spanish. Spanish is a language that is not dying away. In a lot of countries, children are encouraged to speak multiple languages... It is just common sense as the global markets increase. Do you think China would be where it was if they didn't learn English.. how else were they to market to the US. Now when they start learning Spanish, ya'll watch out...

....be required to learn the English/American language if the kid's parent/s came from south of the border.:wtf:

And what makes you think that all Latinos/Hispanics come from "South of the Border." Quite a few of them descend from people who crossed That River before mine crossed the Atlantic.

The anti-immigration crowd needs to stick to their economic arguments (unproven as they may be.) They wonder why people play "the race card." Generally, you play the cards you're dealt.

....legal residents here. It's fine with me if someone finds fault with something I say, I don't expect everyone to agree with my views. On the other hand, in the future can we stick to the particular issue raised??:shrug:

The OP said nothing about language. You raised that issue.

almost none of the parents speak English to any degree, but most of the little kids speak some. I see teenagers all the time chattering in Spanglish: a few words of fluent English, a few words of fluent Spanish. I've known quite a few children of immigrants, and they all speak pretty good English. In case you didn't notice, school is taught in English.

I really strongly doubt we will see generational failure to learn English here.

1964. Forty years later we have added 100,000,000 people---people who want jobs, houses, cars, fast food and all sorts of consumer goods. In another 35 years we'll top 400,000,000 people---people who will want jobs, houses, cars, fast food and all sorts of consumer goods.

Where's the lumber, wheat, corn, petroleum, iron and electric power going to come from?

"winners" take a long walk off a short pier? Hell no, I don't want to go but that's just natural instinct.

Ok, ok here it is :sarcasm:





Seriously, over population has to be one of the worst and most pressing problems facing Earth as a planet. Ever get the feeling we humans are a virus on the Earth, and she will probably die from the infection?

Her immune system will kick in & she'll recover from the nasty virus. (Too bad for the virus.)