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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:12 AM
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WP: Earth's Climate Warming Abruptly, Scientist Says
Earth's Climate Warming Abruptly, Scientist Says
Tropical-Zone Glaciers May Be at Risk of Melting
By Doug Struck
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 27, 2006; Page A03

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Earth's climate is undergoing an abrupt change, ending a cooler period that began with a swift "cold snap" in the tropics 5,200 years ago that coincided with the start of cities, the beginning of calendars and the biblical great flood, a leading expert on glaciers has concluded.

The warming around Earth's tropical belt is a signal suggesting that the "climate system has exceeded a critical threshold," which has sent tropical-zone glaciers in full retreat and will melt them completely "in the near future," said Lonnie G. Thompson, a scientist who for 23 years has been taking core samples from the ancient ice of glaciers.

Thompson, writing with eight other researchers in an article published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, said the ice samples show that the climate can and did cool quickly, and that a similarly abrupt warming change started about 50 years ago. Humans may not have the luxury of adapting to slow changes, he suggests.

"There are thresholds in the system," Thompson said in an interview in his lab at Ohio State University. When they are crossed, "there is the risk of changing the world as we know it to some form in which a lot of people on the planet will be put at risk."

"I think the temperature will continue to rise, the glaciers will continue to melt. Sea levels will continue to rise. I think there is a good indication now that the magnitude of severe storms will rise," he said....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/26/AR2006062601237.html
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:17 AM
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1. 102 in Portland Oregon today!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:22 AM
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2. And D.C. breaking records
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 12:27 AM by Erika
But W/Rove simply do not care. They think they appeal to a base that don't believe/care in global warming. They have no concern about their children or grandchildren succumbing to global warming, they simply don't care. They know immediate gratification and profits, and that is what the Republicans are about. Probably the most selfish group of people who ever existed.

There is certainly nothing Godly or Christian like about them.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:28 AM
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3. Tigard 105... South Beaverton..... 113!!!!!!!
this is NOT FREAKIN NORMAL!!

10:30 pm and it's still 86.5 in Tigard.

I would have a fit about it, but then I would just break out in a sweat again :(
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:07 AM
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11. Beaverton 113? Holy shit! I was just there last weekend.
It was already getting hot.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:40 AM
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16. wow! Phoenix was only 109 yesterday. Oregon hotter than AZ??
:wow:

:scared:
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:47 AM
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20. REALLY! Thats amazing!
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:30 AM
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4. The rich republican base doesn't care
They have the money to move to better climates.

The poor republican base is too baffled by bullshit to care.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:32 AM
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14. And they're counting on the Rapture coming soon.
So - it'll be some poor sinners' problem.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:56 AM
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19. As long as the queers
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 08:57 AM by Jawja
can't marry, who cares whether their children roast in heat, drown in flood, or get blown away by a storm? :eyes:

on edit: don't think I need to qualify it, but :sarcasm:
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WhoWantsToBeOccupied Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:24 AM
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22. When do we invade Canada?
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:04 PM
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28. Already have - - who the feck you think was backing Harper ??
.
.
.

(sigh)

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:00 PM
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26. Or they just don't don't care about anyone but themselves
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 06:00 PM by redqueen
not even their own offspring, let alone anyone else's.

I know a couple like that.

It's truly amazing to witness their IGMFU attitude.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:33 AM
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5. It makes many wonder: How long before...


such a catastrophic (NO) scene is widespread all along the seashore coasts of the Divided States?

20? 15? 10? 5 years? :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

Emergency plans? Who needs any? (Big Oil's current criminal mal-administration)
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:42 AM
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6. Wouldn't it be ironic if we crossed that critical threshold while......
Bush was clearing brush at his Crawford estate (ahem, ranch).

I occasionally do find myself looking around, taking it all in, as things may well be irreversibly changing and not for the better.

I am then reminded of the Springsteen lyric " Son, take a good look around, this is your hometown"
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 01:40 AM
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7. 3rd spare the air day here in bay area, more than usual for this early
in the summer.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 01:54 AM
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8. we need to start moving the coastal populations
to inland sustainable green cities ASAP. gonna take a lot of money and mistakes will be made but we've got to get started.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:10 AM
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9. The New Bush Trifecta
The human, economic and political costs of oil hegemony via quasi-holy war.

The human, economic, and political costs of anthropoeic climate
destablization. How many New Orleans events is it going to take?

The human, economic, and political costs of petro-dollar warfare.

The doom of the age of oil is not facing Bush** head on like a gunfighter,
it is creeping around him like a pack of wolves.

And sadly, he is going to use working class americans as a human shield.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:00 PM
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24. brilliant comment !
I despair of very many people having the long view, the overview that's needed. I know you see it . . . :hug:
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:56 AM
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10. even in non-political discussions
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 06:57 AM by jarnocan
it seems like- in the chit chat forums of the sweep site etc. 'everyone' is talking about how hot it is. All those fires and huge drought are on the news every day. Ya think people might be getting a clue? I do hope it inspires more people to go see An Inconvenient Truth.
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ArmchairMeme Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:15 AM
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12. The clues are in plain sight
After several days of rain in D.C. many of the federal buildings have flooded basements. Has this always been what happens there every year? Why did they build federal buildings so close to sea level. The sea level only has to rise a small amount and voila D.C. will be under water just like Venice.

I'm sure they will come up with a way to minimize this too.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:28 AM
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13. Kicking - Thompson is The Man when it comes to tropical ice-core data
Strongly recommend the book "Thin Ice: Unlocking The Secrets Of Climate In The World's Highest Mountains" by Mark Bowen. It's all about the decades Thompson has spent on this subject all over the world.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:34 AM
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15. Thanks for this info, hatrack. nt
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:43 AM
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18. Always glad to help!
:toast:
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jeffreyi Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:18 AM
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21. thx, Hatrack, your posts are the best, always read them nt
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:40 AM
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17. Bush will rebrand Global Warming as the "Decoldening
of our Planet" and proclaim that it will help man and fish, as he predicted, coexist peacefully as better stewards of our shared environment - all of which will eventually lead to his prophetic vision of human animal hybrids.

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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:57 PM
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25. LOL!
I completely forgot about the hybrids comment from the past!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:44 PM
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23. Someone told me the other day that the Wal-Mart in Anchorage, Alaska
sold out of air-conditioners for the first time ever this year.

Air Conditioners in Alaska... yikes!

TC
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:50 PM
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27. OMG! That is scary.
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