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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:22 AM
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Bush To Jog With Soldier Who Lost Both Legs In Iraq

http://www.wpxi.com/politics/9430674/detail.html

Bush To Jog With Soldier Who Lost Both Legs In Iraq


WHITE HOUSE -- President George W. Bush is set to go jogging Tuesday with a soldier who lost both legs to a roadside bomb in Iraq.

Weather permitting, the president will take a spin on the White House track with Army Staff Sgt. Christian Bagge. The 23-year-old Eugene, Ore., native was riding in a convoy near Kirkuk a year ago when a blast tore apart his Humvee.

Bush met Bagge during a New Year's Day visit to Brooke Army Medical Center in Texas -- and when Bagge asked about a White House run, Bush agreed.

In 2004, Bush jogged with a soldier who lost a leg to a landmine in Afghanistan and met the president at Washington's Walter Reed Army Hospital.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:25 AM
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1. The man who's responsible for getting Bagge's legs blown off
has the audacity to make a photo-op out of it?

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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:26 AM
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2. showing off his handywork?
this makes me sick to my stomach
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:27 AM
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5. Dave, you and I had the same thought accompanied by the same
disgust.

MKJ
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:25 PM
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40. Stuart, from MAD TV. "Look what I can do!!!"
"I can makes his legs disappear..."
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:26 AM
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3. Maybe the headline should read . . .
OREGON VET TO JOG WITH PRESIDENT WITH NO BRAIN
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:27 AM
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4. gwb, so proud of his accomplishments. Loves to show off his handiwork.
He's disgusting and vile...how can he, or Rove, believe anyone would applaud this? :puke: MKJ
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PerceptionManagement Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:28 AM
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6. Do you think Chimpy will trip him or just laugh at him?
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:40 AM
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9. You know W is making private jokes about it, as with Karla Faye Tucker
That's the woman executed in Texas. She claimed to have been born again in prison, and although hundreds of people,even Preacher Pat Robertson, asked W (then Texas governor) to commute her sentence to life in prison, W refused. Bush, sitting in the governor's office mocked her to a visitor, whining in a high pitched voice, "Oh please, Mr. Governor, don't kill me!"

What to you want to bet, he's kidding around about this legless vet - "Oh, please, Mr. President, don't run too fast!"

That aside, I hope this young vet has sufficient recovery to have many opportunities to engage in activities like running. I was amazed to go diving with a Vietnam vet with double, above the knee amputations, who had prosthesis that allowed him to wear not only shoes, but diving fins, and he handled some steep ladder entries from a tall dock at the Tech Divers place at Grand Cayman, as well as some pretty fast currents. Having read Max Clelland's book, I know that his prosthesis were so painful for him to wear/walk on, that he finally was forced to be wheel chair bound.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:14 AM
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19. The soldier better let Bush win, or there will be hell to pay.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:28 AM
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7. Wanna bet he tries to outrun the guy?
This is a disgusting story.... he won't greet any of the coffins, but he'll go jogging with a man who has no legs. Hope the guy is at least a Bushie, so he'll get a charge out of it. Maybe he won't be too put off by Bush's "victory" lap.

TC
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:42 AM
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10. The vet is only 23; and PT is pretty painful. This gave him a goal.
NT
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:17 AM
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20. That was my first thought exactly.
Bush is going to outrun him and gloat about it.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:35 AM
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8. * Will Take Advantage Of An Edge Any Way He Can.....
* probably feels that he'll look good jogging in comparison to a guy that lost his legs.

He went after Iraq because he knew that it was potentially vulnerable.

He takes advantage of the downtrodden, weak, poor and helpless.

He has to have control of everything and even with the control he screws things up.

I guess we know who the better man will be at this jog.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:44 AM
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11. Is this supposed to be a Bush "connecting with the soldiers" story?
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 07:44 AM by Solly Mack
A success story of some sort for Bush?


I'm happy the young man is alive and able to be mobile again

but the thug responsible is using his victims as a way of saying "See? I didn't ruin his life!"

As if the young man's recovery had anything at all to do with Bush

The soldier would not have this life-altering injury to recover from if Bush had not lied to get his occupation

Sick.Sick.Sick

I am livid.



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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:44 AM
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12. Bush still hasn't been to a single soldier's funeral. (nt)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:48 AM
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13. And the White House will use this as a photo op to boost morale
in the homefront. Goebbels would have done well had he had Hitler jogging with a veteran of the siege of Stalingrad.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:21 AM
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28. the photo-op of the compassionate Neo-Conservative
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Wise Doubter Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:51 AM
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14. -- and when Bagge asked about a White House run, Bush agreed.
I`ll bet diamonds to donuts he took it as a dare/challange.

"hehe hehe I`m gonna blow his doors like the last guy hehe hehe"


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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:07 PM
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69. I guess the President sent that guy back, eh?
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:53 AM
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15. OMG - tell me this isn't so!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:56 AM
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16. One more way for Bush to tell everyone
FU
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:09 AM
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17. Pray for justice....
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 08:09 AM by Tyler Durden
...like a heart attack.

Hey, completely healthy guys drop dead all the time. I knew a cardiac surgeon in the Navy who jogged five miles a day, had a cardiac arrest.

He was resucitated but not soon enough to prevent him from pretty severe brain damage.

We can but hope...for a "Jim Fix"...for "you know who."
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:12 AM
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18. another shameless photo op for the chickehawk chimp
CNN's sosobad was all gushy about this. :puke:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:27 AM
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54. NBC too. Surprise, surprise. nt
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:18 AM
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21. there won't be ANY cameras right? this is a PRIVATE moment right?
certainly he won't be EXPLOITING this soldier right?

:sarcasm:
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:26 AM
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22. did someone alert Ann Coulter?
Did someone tell her that a victim was being trotted out to exploit?

I know she has an issue with that.....
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:36 PM
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37. Ah, but this is different...
...the soldier is showing resolve in the face of adversity.

He's not being used.

:eyes:
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:53 AM
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23. There's plenty wrong with this on both sides.
Why would the soldier allow himself to be used this way? It's like a rape victim going on a public date with her attacker - with the attacker gloating all the while.

Just sick.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:07 AM
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24. MSM said he was a Christian and a supporter of Bush nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:10 AM
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25. So he gave up his legs for Christ and since the Second Coming
is just around the corner, Jesus will give him a new pair of legs. Brilliant!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:29 AM
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27. The MSM can try to rationalize all they want.
What I see is a victim who is cozying up to his attacker and allowing himself to be used for propaganda purposes.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:11 AM
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26. wait, didn't he do this already? I could swear he's had a photo-op with
this soldier before.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:26 AM
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29. Of course Idiot Boy will do something to purposely embarrasss.............
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 11:27 AM by Minnesota Libra
......the :patriot: Soldier :patriot: that :puke:Idiot Boy:banghead: is responsible for sending to be maimed for the rest of his life. Who Lost Both Legs In Iraq

edite for spelling :grr:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 12:50 PM
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30. That poor young man. 15 minutes of fame for 2 legs. Bad tradeoff.
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 01:41 PM
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31. What is president Prick's next feel good photo op?
Arm wrestling with a vet who lost both of his arms? Bush is a sickening, sorry SOB!
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:00 PM
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32. I could see bush getting some secret kick
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 02:07 PM by superconnected
out of this.

It's sort of like a serial killer posing with his victim.

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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:30 PM
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33. so will bush have a wheel up his ass to "jog" with this man?
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:38 PM
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34. Nothing is sacred to those SOBs
Every single tragedy that's occured on their watch is nothing more than a marketing tool to them.

While I find this absolutely distasteful, my heart goes out to the young man. His life's been altered dramatically from disabilities he sustained due to a war we had no business instigating in the first place.

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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:17 PM
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35. He doesn't hold it against me, why should you?
The dubious but undoubted propaganda message.

He accepts it, how dare you criticize!

Another is "cut and run has a different meaning to this hero."

So get out the bullhorn and cheerlead on a pile of corpses.

I think he should do photo ops, on rendition flights, in abu ghraid, and in GITMO cages.

How about a photo op with prisoners getting water boarded?

Or children blown to bits in Iraq?
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:24 PM
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36. If the soldier wants to be photographed with Bush....
...there's not a whole lot any of us can say.

It's opportunistic as hell on the part of Bush, not to mention in VERY poor taste. But that's never stopped him before.

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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:06 PM
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38. Adorable photo op. Is it an election year?
.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:22 PM
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39. Reminds me of * refusing to drop a salute with a shoulder wounded vet.
Asshole wouldn't drop his salute until the soldier had to because of the injury. IIRC, the junior party is required to hold the salute until the senior party drops their's. Dumbass in Chief forced a wounded vet to back down and break convention.

What do you bet that if Bagge is kicking * despite running on prosthetics, * changes the route to include stairs, steep slopes, etc.? * ALWAYS changes the rules if he isn't winning, has done it since he was a miserable little shit beating up on his younger cousins.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:28 PM
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41. Candidate for this month's "You Call This NEWS?" award
:boring:
rocknation
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:34 PM
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42. Bush is shameless
to use this kid in this way. Even if the kid supported the war it is crass politicing at its worst.

Bush will do anything to put a happy face on this war, including using someone whose legs were blown off. "See, he's ok with this! So what your problem?"

Kid was used before; he's being used again.

Go jogging George. Have a nice day.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:46 PM
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43. And then he'll play gin rummy with the guy with no arms and then go
get laid with the guy with no dick, and go to a concert with the guy with no ears....
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:04 PM
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44. George W. Bush, have you no shame?
You are such an embarrassment to this country. You'd do anything for a photo-op. shame on you.

:dunce: :dunce: :spank:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:00 PM
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48. just curious -- what should chimpy have done when the kid asked?
My dislike for chimpy and his gang of mutant cretins is as great as anyone's. But objectively -- this kid gets blown apart in Iraq. He meets chimpy. He asks chimpy if he can come jogging at the white house with chimpy. He, as much as chimpy, wants the photo op, apparently because he's hoping that his example of fighting through a double amputation to reach the point where he can go running, will inspire others. So exactly what was chimpy supposed to do. If he had looked at the kid and said "no, can't do that" he'd be skewered as an unfeeling shit. If he said yes, but then never did it, same thing.

So exactly what should chimpy have done? In this case, I think he did the "right" thing. Hey, even a stopped clock is right twice a day (which is probably a better average than chimpy has).
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:50 AM
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50. The chimp should have said, "Yes,
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 01:15 AM by LibDemAlways
of course I will do it, but without reporters or cameras present because I respect your service to our country and your sacrifice too much to turn it into an occasion for a cheap photo op." If the soldier wanted a photo taken, the White House photographer could have snapped one of the two of them as a souvenir for the soldier--not to be released through the WH press office.

Not, of course, that this would even be remotely possible as an option for the chimp, who is impervious to human suffering and looks upon such a situation merely as the perfect propaganda opportunity. It's an incredible shame the soldier doesn't understand that he's being used by the man ultimately responsible for the loss of his legs. If he had died, Bush certainly wouldn't have been photographed with his coffin.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:09 PM
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45. So thats the price you have to pay to get the president's attention?
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:41 PM
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46. he probably tripped him and called him "legs" or something
he is that uncouth
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:56 PM
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47. Is he gonna call him "Stumpy"?
Y'know how that fucking idiot likes to bestow cute nicknames
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:36 AM
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49. sick and disgusting - bush using tragedy for a photo-op
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:02 AM
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51. and at the end, bush jumped up and down, yelling 'I WIN!!!'
cheap propaganda ploy.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:04 AM
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52. As A Disabled Person - I Hate These Stories
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 01:06 AM by otohara
because in the real world - having a disability sucks!!

I used to hear all the time, Oh, you're so amazing, how you've overcome so much and never let your disability stop you from doing anything. My picture was taken with famous people as a wee girl when I served as a poster child for the March of Dimes - adults were so nice back then, so kind and understanding.

Then you become an adult and start having problems and whoa things change rapidly, especially when it comes to work. Employers are less than sympathetic and can be downright horrible when accommodations need to be made for a disabled person.

In a way, I'm glad I grew up with my disability. For these soldiers or anyone who become suddenly disabled, my heart goes out to them. This guy running with the monster who is responsible for his leg loss, is in for a lifetime of pain in more ways than the just the physical aspect.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:03 AM
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53. I found it particularly upsetting that during the interview after the run,
the soldier had to prompt the Idiot In Chief when he made a mistake relating how the 2 had met. If this had been any sort of sincere extension of compassion, there wouldn't have been a photo op involved. Shrub cannot sink any lower.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:36 AM
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56. Time to bury the "Rove is a Marketing Genius" myth.
A marketing genius would've had the two run without a photo-op. There are plenty of ways to disseminate the story in such a way to make the President sympathetic. This ain't it.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:31 AM
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55. Is it possible the soldier was compensated for being used this way?

Maybe somehow he was paid some money/assets? Promised a good job?

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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:37 AM
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57. For his sake, I can only hope.
So long as he negotiated a decent deal for himself, which is probably a long shot.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:14 AM
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58. Could have said, "NO"!
We expect this opportunistic disgusting behavior from Bush and Rove. But what about the victim? You know he did not initiate this, but he could have said 'no way' and showed Bush for what he is. What more could they do to him? Since he didn't and agreed to this photo-op, tough shit. I'm fed up with the military and these soldiers kissing Bush's ass. I've used up all my sympathy. JMHO. :nopity:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:25 AM
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59. why do you say the soldier didn't initiate it?
All of the reports I've read, dating back months, say that it was the soldier's idea.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:17 PM
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64. My presumption was wrong
I 'presumed' it when I posted, thinking that it is just the kind of photo-op the Rove machine would think up and exploit. However, since I posted I have read the AP article about this 'event' and you are absolutely correct- the soldier asked to do this and he and Bush had discussed when Bush had visited him in the hospital.

I should have posted a correction before you did. Glad you did. When I'm wrong I admit it.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:48 PM
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66. no problem
As I posted above, I have no use for, and am suspicious of, most everything that chimpy and his gang does. But I don't see what else chimpy could do once this fellow made his request. Some think it should've been a "private" event, but my sense is that wounded soldier wanted it to be public.

Seth
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:46 AM
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60. One of the most disgusting, shameless displays I have ever seen.
The kid gets his legs blown off in Bush's fake war and Bush crows about it.

The animal.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:04 AM
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61. I saw this "Video Op" on TV & it made me physically ill! -eom
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:12 AM
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62. Was the soldier wearing "shades" like that press corps journalist?



I would have liked to have been around just to hear what tactless gems the asshole-in-chief managed to come up with.








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Biernuts Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:13 AM
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63. This was the Soldier's request - I'm not going to second-guess
him.
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:25 PM
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65. Then he'll waive at Stevie Wonder and make fun of another
blind man for wearing glasses. Then maybe he'll have a pretzel, or two.
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RangerSmith Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:08 PM
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67. If it honestly
is at the kids request,than whatever floats his boat.

My hats off to him regardless of his politics.

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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:20 PM
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68. My sentiments also n/t
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:40 PM
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70. What nickname will Bush give him?
Maybe Bush will ask him why he's lagging it?
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