General: We're in for long war

which is, by definition, unwinnable.

:grr:

I is getting very drafty in here :grr:

Like a bloated turd in a warm toilet bowl this fool and apologist for War Crimes again is being quoted as an expert and a source

He belongs in the Hague for what he has done

It was he, who helped decide, to do a Lidice on Fallujah.

Hell, 95% is a fraction, right?

:mad:

We have always been at war with Eurasia, or is it Eastasia.......

I forget.

in order to win the larger battle???

Okay. That's a good military strategy. Let's go with that one.

:rofl:

:crazy:

Oh, he did say it again:

“The goal is not winning Iraq, although that’s right up there; and it is not winning Afghanistan, although that is right up there too,’’ Kimmitt said.

and get our troops as much on the job training as we can

Might one of these idiots actually set measurable benchmarks by which the effort can be measured? (rhetorical. We all know the answer.)

... and the next ... and on ... and on ...

There's been so many 'goals' it's hard to keep up with what their 'current' lie (uh, sorry: 'goal') is...

Let's recap for a moment.

Some 75 years ago: 'They' just hated that 'New Deal' stuff and their 'goal' was to destroy it. Then, 'their' next 'goal' was to make a deal with Germany. When that failed, 'their' next 'goal' was to become like Germany in order for the haves and havemores to dominate the world and get as much free oil as 'they' could get their filthy hands on, no matter how many millions would have to be 'sacrificed' in their criminal take over...

On, and on, to the WMD lies (PNAC), then the 'spreading democracy' lies, then ... 'their' stay-the-course to this total anihilation and destruction of all living species in this big environmental catastrophe we're all in (Depleted-Uranium + White Phosphorous + Excessive CO2 + 'you-name-it-they-do-it'), including the so called 'Human race' is their ultimate 'goal' because they'd never live with the billions they already have: for 'them' there's never enough billions (or trillions, as of this day).

Never enough is their mantra. Hence the never ending 'chain-of-goals' (lies).

Who would be brave enough to 'ask' them what their 'goal' is?

duh.

I think that is what the delay is all about. That is why BushCo wants that "open end" timetable. Follow the money.

that is the only explanation as to why the whole republican senate, except for Chaffee, were shreaking in unision not to pull out. Logic tells you, that whenever an entire group, that large, agrees - it's unnatural and something is rotten in Denmark...

. . low enough that Iraq is no longer the perfect recruiting and training ground for terrorists, then the terrorosts will find other ways to attack us.

Perhaps, then we'll see a resumption of WTC-like attacks on American soil - or worse.

:eyes:

hiding in the marble bathtub :)

which they stole from us during an air raid alert.

:scared:

and since there is no real goals other than pacification of a hostile population, the vast majority of which had little or nothing to do with the 'war on terror' -- then the soldiers will simply succumb to brigandy, terror and revenge similar to the IDF in occupied Palestine. The permanent occupation of the Middle East will be a constant 'deal breaker' as the various lobbies form to support it.

More at 11. Karen?

But isn't that what Bush keeps telling the country, that we are going to be there until the mission is finish? What would have happened if Clinton had ordered to go to war in another country but told them that their goal was not winning? The Freepers would have crucified him!

I think none of our generals have a clue as to what to do about Iraq and Afghanistan. Too much praying to Jesus, and not enough doses of reality.

expect to see them here soon, on US soil, with smuggled explosives stolen from unguarded bunkers at the beginning of the war.

Today is the 1,198th day of the Iraq War, or three years, three months, and ten days, and we're being told it will take much longer.

If this were the 1,198th day of America's formal involvement in World War Two, today's date would be about March 19th, 1945.

By the 1,198th day of America's part in World War II, virtually all of Western Europe had been wrested from German occupation. El Alamein, Midway, Stalingrad, Normandy, the Destruction of Army Group Centre, the Battle of the Bulge, and most of the other epic battles besides Okinawa were in the history books. France was fielding an entire army of its own again. George S. Patton was http://www.scrapbookpages.com/EasternGermany/Buchenwald/GeneralPatton.html">pissing into the Rhine, and the U.S. Ninth Army was crossing it at Remagen into Germany itself.

On March 19th, 1945, Germany was about five weeks away from surrendering unconditionally. The Japanese empire in the Pacific had been completely retaken or neutralized and one of its own provinces, Iwo Jima, was a week away from finally falling to U.S. Marines. The atomic bomb was only four months away from completion, and the entire war was less than six months away from ending.

That was a fucking war. This is a corporate enterprise, and it will continue until it becomes unprofitable.

like Antietam and Gettysburg would be memories and Grant and the Army of the Potomac would be fighting toward Richmond "if it takes all summer." Vicksburg would have long since fallen and the Mississippi would long since have been flowing unvexed to the sea. And that was a war too and not a corporate enterprise.

This neocon corporate enterprise needs to be stopped because IMHO if they get their way, the war will never end.
They will just take it on the road someplace else.
This thought was inspired by an episode of M*A*S*H I saw a long time ago.

into the pockets of the wealthy corporate warmongers. You know, bidness as usual. Create the bogeymen...communists, terrorists, drug runners, doesn't matter, it's all the same...get your money-making war on.

I thought this was about Saddam endangering America with WMD. Them I thought it was bringing democracy to the mideast. Now it's a "long war" against radical Islam?

It ain't what these guys said going in.

If yes, then keep voting Republicans in.....they will make sure that the military is constantly being engaged in the Middle East.

burn the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, bankrupt our country and create even more boogey men!!! The goal is to bring the US to it's knees so that the corporate greedheads can have their NWO--where democracies (the will of the people) are crushed under corporate domination. Fascism anyone?

Sounds like he alone is deciding US policy for continual war. Does he represent the majority?

In fact, any proportion can be expressed as a fraction.

"I am saying that, within a few years, the numbers will be a fraction of what they are today,’’ said Army Brig. Gen. Mark T. Kimmitt"