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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:31 AM Original message |
Missing migrants put area farms in tight spot (Wash. State) |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. Another BushCo failure |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. The immigrants are probably working construction and landscaping |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Heard the same thing about the Florida orange crop. |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #51 |
63. Yes, the "seasonal" workers don't leave here any more. They stay |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
2. Oh Jerry Dobbins |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. If they paid pickers a living wage... |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. It would add very little to the cost of stawberries.... |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. strawberries are harder to pick...since leaves obscure berries |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. In your dreams |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. strawberries are a perennial crop...you don't seed the fields like |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I wish I knew |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. The reason illegal immigrants are hired is because they won't tell |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Sure, but how do most employers know? |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. immigrants find them and they also use services... |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
58. report of wages in Ohio 2003 |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. They are too high for many of us already. |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. prices are high when fruit being sold is out of season for the area |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
55. I live on less than $600 a month - and there has been no cheap |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. bull...I have picked blueberries...you can pick a hell of a lot of |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Right... |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. and when you are farming fruit..you pick it ALL...and those that |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I have worked on a farm pulling weeds out of the bean fields in Iowa |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I think all injustice against low wage earners is wrong... |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I also come from Union. But I have a different slant when it comes |
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mccoyn (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. $8? Are you nuts? |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. What? Is this the "new math"? |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. they get 30cents per pint |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Fuel costs have already raised produce prices far more... |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. Minuscule increase in cost of produce by hiring Americans |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. And if he pays a living wage for picking strawberries can you |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. That's the vicious cycle alright |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. Bypassing the "Free Market" for labor. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. How about living wages for ALL and food subsidies for the poor. |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. Amen |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. The employer is going to hire the available person who will |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. Yes, and get a reputation for paying crappy wages... |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'm sure folks won't mind paying $5 a pound for broccoli |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. It would add very little to the cost |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Funny how you hear people say that, |
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KKKarl is an idiot (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. What makes sense |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
64. Inflation is the tricky bit |
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Vogon_Glory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
5. Contrary To Wingnutz' Expectations... |
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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. …nor live in the housing provided for migrants. |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I would dearly love to see every Rep and Senator in the fields for a week |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. former Senator Bob Graham has picked tomatoes for a day |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
26. They couldn't afford the gas! |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
38. With gas at $3/gallon, they'de burn half their day's pay in travel |
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checkmate1947 (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. BS |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
13. Holy smokes! I had just read the same problem exists in Florida |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. so--fresh fruit prices will be jacked up. ---along with gas prices! damn! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Could this be Bushco Disinformation. Two Stories appearing on same |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 07:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Right Idea |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
57. Sounds as if you're onto something.What are the chances, after all? n/t |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
31. I am currently reading a T. C. Boyles book, Tortilla Curtain about |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
34. I heard some wingnut on NPR a while back...a strawberry farmer |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Bingo. And we're even seeing it on this thread. |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. We're seeing the "greed" part as well |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
40. Volunteer opportunity for the Minutemen! |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
45. I picked strawberrys in wa for 1/2 a day when I was a teenager |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
52. I've worked in a packing house |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
56. Well then, |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. people pay to pick fruit |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
61. this debate has nothing to do with immigrants vs native-born Americans |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
62. Did the guy put an ad in the local paper? |
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