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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 12:23 PM Original message |
Zidane Apparently Called "Dirty Terrorist" (World Cup) |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. He Should Have Channeled That Rage A Different Direction!! |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. And still, he won the Golden Ball for Best Player of World Cup '06 |
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Biernuts (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
111. because they voted before the incident n/t |
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xzyra (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. agree. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. He's also been known to do stuff like this |
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noops (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
73. What? |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
101. That's adult sports,noops. He snapped and could have killed with his |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. A very old trick |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. We watched the game and, as I said to my husband |
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sleipnir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Zindane has been given 14 Red Cards in Career. He has little control. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Is that a lot of red cards? |
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sleipnir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Yes, most players amass perhaps 3-5 red cards in a similar career |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. Materazzi was sent off, suspended with a red card in the same tournament. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. You are correct, |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. FWIW, Matterazzi denies the accusation |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. No, he claims he "di[dn't] know what the word means." |
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Twillig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. The Sammy Sosa defense. n/t |
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WilmywoodNCparalegal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Yet another bad translation |
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against all enemies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. He denies he even knows what the word "terrorist" means. |
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rep the dems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. If that's true then it was a pretty dumb thing to say |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
10. No Shame at all... |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. Except no one but Zindane and the Italian player know what was said |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. goddamn right |
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Kellanved (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
44. Why? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
12. according to "several"???? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. really? |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Damn...this thread was gutted, but good! |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
13. You heard it here first... |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. That's one of the reasons Henry is a hero to me |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
59. The Spaniards and Portugese are the soccer thugs |
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ugarte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. To be fair, French black players even get racist treatment in France |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
26. WP article on racism among European soccer fans: |
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BlueManDude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
27. A Brazilan friend of mine has for years referred to Zidane as "The Arab" |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
30. Sadly, Zidane succumbed to the red mist too often in his career. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. He remains the greatest footballer of his generation. |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Just a lousy end to a great career |
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zara (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. So sad to see him leave the game when his team still needed him. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. If Materazzi is Italy's dirtiest player |
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BlueInPhilly (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. No one to blame but Zidane |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Or Stackhouse committing a flagrant foul during a crucial NBA finals game |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. not EVEN on the same level n/t |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. uh huh |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
115. I was referring to the NBA not being on the same level |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
39. Though totally unsportsmanlike, that was one awesome head butt. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Yes, I hear he has a big, fat contract waiting in the WWE. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
41. who are these "well informed sources"? |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
45. Brazil station had lipreader translate Materazzi's comment. |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
48. Being associated with terrorist who have caused this world |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
51. It was still |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. A thoroughly undisputed point |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
53. Why is this LBN? |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
54. "Son of a terrorist whore”, that's what he called Zidane, according to the |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. History will vindicate Zidane and condemn Materazzi |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #54 |
71. I should have known the guy said something about his mother. |
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TheLastMohican (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
55. Materazzi is one of the dirtiest players in world football |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:09 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Great vid link. Thanks n/t |
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politick (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Yep |
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noops (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Yeah |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
56. I feel bad for the French team |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:18 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. There is no excuse |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Zidane is a moronic thug. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Proud member of the 10% who will know him as one of the |
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noops (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 10:02 AM Response to Reply #65 |
75. X2 |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #65 |
108. A lot of people have pieces of shit as heroes. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. It's true |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Laughable |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #76 |
109. No, the world knows Zidane as a piece of shit |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Who the |
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noops (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #109 |
127. Where in the world? |
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noops (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #62 |
79. Bass Ackwards... |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
60. As scummy a player as Materazzi is, he's allowed to say whatever he wants |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Not according to FIFA's antiracist policy. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. That has to do with fan behavior, not on-the-field comments b/t players |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. If it can apply to the fans, then it would apply even moreso to players, |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. "suspensions, point deductions and disqualification, to punish racist |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:44 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. If a team's fans do the "monkey chant" or throw peanuts |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. That's a stretch |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Yes, I do have an idea what I'm talking about |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Your original assertion was incorrect. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. No, it wasn't |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #95 |
103. And you now agree that it includes players and coaches. |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #72 |
80. As written, it seems more directed at team play. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. This post just eviscerated every post on the thread attacking Zidane. |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. That was a mistake. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
90. No, his mistake was to assault another player |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Keep apologizing -- instead of condemning racism and bigotry, . . . |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Zidane was the one red carded and thrown out |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. I'm not apologising for racism; but you are apologising for assault |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Is a violent response ever justified? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. If witnesses agreed it was said, there might have been publicity |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. The World Cup is already denied. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. There's not a single team that didn't commit a foul |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. Several levels to look at this. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 07:28 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. I bet it happens all the time |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 07:50 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. You prove it the same way you prove Zidane's retaliation. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 08:25 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. I don't think Materazzi should be punished at all |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 10:06 AM Response to Reply #121 |
131. Then you would condone racism and bigotry, |
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Rumach (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 08:50 AM Response to Reply #92 |
124. Racial Incidents Mar Italy's Cup Celebrations |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #60 |
82. Ok pal |
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noops (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
77. There is more to it than just the name calling incident... |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. That was Marerazzi? |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
96. Especially since Materazzi is known to be extremely aggresive and has the |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #77 |
122. That's all part of the sport |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
83. Now there are reports that Zidane's mother was very ill |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
84. The development of the "Zidane was a victim" meme is troubling. |
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Hatalles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Oh, please. Not everything is so black and white. nt |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Zindane was already red carded. |
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Henny Penny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. I agree. |
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Henny Penny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. Some might find your overly simplistic world view troubling! |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 08:48 AM Response to Reply #99 |
123. Yes it is simplistic to condem violence in the face of taunts |
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Hatalles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
86. "Revealed: The Disgusting Abuse that Sparked Zidane's Fury" |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Pure speculation |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. Up next on "Psychic Sports"..... |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 01:31 AM Response to Reply #88 |
118. Speculative indeed. Does the lip reader read Italian? |
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noops (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #86 |
128. If thats the case then |
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fshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
89. Although the Italian team |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #89 |
116. Not sure that they did deserve to play the final. |
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noops (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 09:54 AM Response to Reply #116 |
129. Agreed |
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DelawareValleyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
104. At least we moved away from the ridiculous theory. |
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Biernuts (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
110. Guess his conduct confirmed the remark n/t |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #110 |
126. Zidane's were the actions of a "dirty terrorist"? |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
117. I'm getting a kick (no pun intended) |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
125. Zidane will be interviewed on French tv today. |
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130. A comeback regarding Materazzi's mother or sister would have served better |
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