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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:18 PM
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New York times investigates envelope with powder (anthrax, death threats)
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 01:25 PM by Julius Civitatus
The right-wing all-out attack against the NY Times has started to cross the line the ways that painfully remind us of those weeks after 9/11. Just developing, from Reuters:



New York times investigates envelope with powder


NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New York Times said on Friday it was investigating an envelope received at the paper containing white powder, raising fears of a possible recurrence of anthrax-tainted letters sent to newsrooms and other offices in late 2001. (...)

Link to breaking news


By the way, this reminds us the anthrax mailer got away with it, and never was further investigated. Yes, that mysterious terrorist who only mailed anthrax-filled letters to the Democratic leadership in Congress and Senate, and members of the "librul media."

Shameful.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:21 PM
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1. I hope Ann Coulter is proud of herself
She has whipped up the lunatic fringe.

If Hillary Clinton was president Coulter would have already been shipped off to Guantanamo.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:28 PM
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7. She's probably celebrating right now
Ann Coulter has called publicly for the destruction of the NY Times building, and using a firing squad against its editor in chief. The woman has gone way past beyond the limits of free speech, imho.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:43 PM
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13. What could possibly go wrong when right-wing radio whips-up the lunatics?


Extra!, July/August 1995
Talk Radio on Oklahoma City:
Don't Look at Us

By Jim Naureckas

"Talk radio was ahead of the pack because it's tied into the people," Michael Harrison of the National Association of Radio Talk Show Hosts (NARTSH) told John Tierney of the New York Times (4/30/95). "The mainstream press is out of touch.... That's why it didn't see the Waco connection right away."

According to Harrison, who edits the talk radio publication Talkers, while mainstream media were blaming the deaths in Oklahoma City on Arab terrorists, nearly as many talk radio callers were citing the Branch Davidian debacle as the probable motivation for the bombing.

<snip>

Talkshow hosts strenuously rejected the idea that they might bear some responsibility when members of their audience take such inflammatory rhetoric seriously. Limbaugh wrote a full-page column on the Oklahoma City bombing for Newsweek (5/8/95) headlined, "Why I'm Not to Blame." "Those who make excuses for rioters and looters in Los Angeles now seek to blame people who played no role whatsoever in this tragedy," Limbaugh wrote--a strange complaint from someone who devoted a chapter in his book See, I Told You So to arguing that "Dan Quayle Was Right" to blame the L.A. riots on Murphy Brown.

It wasn't just Limbaugh that rallied to the defense of violence-preaching talkshow hosts--less than a month after the bombing, the national board of NARTSH voted to give its "Freedom of Speech" award to Liddy. The award, which is supposed to go to "the individual who best embodies and boldly defends those freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment," has previously gone to Salman Rushdie, CNN's Peter Arnett and columnist Jack Anderson.

Ironically, Liddy has admitted that, as an aide to President Richard Nixon, he started to plan an assassination of Jack Anderson, who had written columns critical of Nixon. "The rationale was to come up with a method of silencing you through killing you," Liddy told Anderson on the CNBC program The Real Story (6/13/91). Liddy's efforts were aborted by higher-ups at the White House.

More:
http://www.fair.org/extra/9507/ok-talk-radio.html
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Exactly. They behave like their words have no consequences at all
It's only when the Dixie Chicks say something controversial that wingers go nuts calling for restrictions on free speech.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:02 PM
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18. Also ...


The Bartha Townhouse - destroyed during suicide blast on Monday.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 02:58 AM
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35. I saw that house.
I should say I saw the rubble of the house. That wall on the left is actually part of the demolished house, not part of the house still standing. (That's fortunate for the house still standing.)

Unbelievable that he would endanger so many people for spite.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 09:03 AM
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42. Wrong
If Hillary Clinton was President Guantanamo would not exist.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:21 PM
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2. Right Winger Terrorists in America
Now we all knew where that Anthrax was coming from, but now we will have conclusive evidence. Wouldn't be surprised if the people(person) was a member of Free Republic.
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:21 PM
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3. Freepers were talking about bombing NYT yesterday
One went so far as to putting up a satellite image of its location.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:23 PM
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6. There's the motive
I assume the NYT is aware of that FR thread?
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:30 PM
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9. Silly, only lefty bloggers and Daily Kos readers are a threat to society
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 01:30 PM by Julius Civitatus
Don't you read the mainstream media? Don't you read Adam Nagourney, ironically from the NY Times?
:sarcasm:
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:39 PM
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12. Here's the freeper thread
Here's the thread which is about IDF bombing Al-Manar television, the first comment is clearly sarcastic:

T
To: Teufelhunde
Sure hope they don't bomb the NY Times.



10 posted on 07/12/2006 10:52:17 PM PDT by MediaMole
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >

~~~~
To: MediaMole

(very large satilite graphic with location of NYT here)

Not to give their location away or anything.


39 posted on 07/12/2006 11:19:05 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies >


~~~~

To: Teufelhunde
Maybe they'd like to hit CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC.



56 posted on 07/13/2006 12:06:27 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1664816/posts?q=1&&page=1
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:22 PM
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4. I thought we were fighting them over there, so...
:sarcasm:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:22 PM
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5. Maybe they'll let us get him this time?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:29 PM
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8. So wingers, does this qualify as a terrorist attack?
One of the revived talking points lately (it was even mentioned in a letter to the Times yesterday) is that we haven't been attacked on our soil since 9/11. The usual reason for this canard is the steely resolve of Dear Leader. Naturally, the wingers forget about the anthrax murders, the DC sniper and other acts of home-grown terrorism. See, if you don't call it a "terrorist attack," it must not be a terrorist attack, right?

So, it's best not to call this a terrorist attack, because that doesn't fit with the conservawhacko zombie talking point that we haven't had any terrorist attacks since the last one we sustained under George W. Bush.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:33 PM
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10. Perhaps the Times will think about using this as a springboard to
investigate the original attacks. Wouldn't that be interesting. Put it on page 1 above the fold. Answer the question: why weren't the perps of the military grade anthrax ever caught?
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:36 PM
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11. Bush supporters taken little child ways
Same people that said they kill the Dixie Chicks kids
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:56 PM
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14. Randi Rhodes: "When there is chaos, they can steal."
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 02:04 PM by seafan
Massive, orchestrated chaos is happening around the world right now. Massive theft... of lives, dignity, human rights, treasuries, land, resources, elections, antiquities, access to information.

Chaos is the BFEE's best friend.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:41 PM
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16. Funny how the anthrax investigation disappeared when it was reported...
...that the anthrax was weaponized at Ft. Meade, and only a few people had access to it.
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ikri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:58 PM
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17. The NYT is investigating?
Does New York not have a police department or something?

Irrespective of that, someone's playing a dangerous game declaring war on a newspaper. Sure they might have spent a few years asleep at the wheel, so to speak, but if they start investigating some of the cover-ups and revisiting some of the stories they've ignored for the last 5 1/2 years, that could spell trouble for the * administration.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:35 PM
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22. I'd assume the NYPD's also investigating, yes
... Though I'd be more afraid of the New York Times turning its allseeing eye on me than the typical police department. Ouch.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:27 PM
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19. AP: Envelope also contained an editorial with an X marked through it
"Police and a Times spokeswoman, Catherine Mathis, said the envelope also contained an editorial with an 'X' through it."

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--times-suspiciousp0714jul14,0,4447463.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:45 PM
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26. Wonder why they didn't specify WHICH editorial...
I suppose because that would shed some light on which brand of terrorist it was. Don't want to unfairly imply right-wing terrorists are mailing anthrax again.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 04:25 PM
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30. NYT: It was "Patriotism and the Press," defending their reporting...
on the government.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 04:36 PM
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31. Thanks... that's what I thought... it points to right-wing terrorists. n/t
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:30 PM
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20. Oh, this is just great.
I hope it's fake, but still catch the morain that sent it. :mad:
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:33 PM
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21. Right Wing terrorists in America
Apparently, their brand of terrorism is A-OK. It's just those "dark-skinned" terrorists that are truly evil.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:39 PM
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23. just yesterday one of the republican members of the house
(I think it was the house, wasn't paying attention)was saying how legalizing drugs from Canada would open up to possible anthrax in medicines being shipped -- I immediately thought oh, shit they are going to do the anthrax again....gee, how timely...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:42 PM
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24. Why did they not pursue the first right-wing anthrax-mailing terrorists?
Could these be the same right-wing terrorists?

:grr:
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:43 PM
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25. So Faux and MSNBC must be in full outrage mode right now?
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 03:44 PM by Feeney2
I say if they catch this clown and he is some freaking right wing loon (most certainly will be) who has his radio settings set to right wing screed and admits he is a faux believer, I say indict and charge the whole group. It is like those violent video games they rally against. Give them some of their own medicine and wash it down with castor oil.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:46 PM
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27. Incitement to violence.
Seems like enough evidence is available...
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 04:02 PM
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28. ...and people think Im paranoid for wanting a gun just in case one of them
gets the bright idea to "re-educate" me.

They talk so much about killing us, sooner or later they will (or, at least try).
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 04:03 PM
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29. they should have NY police investigate it
they have their own terrorism department
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:22 PM
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32. Reuters: NY Times says white powder "nonhazardous"
NY Times says white powder "nonhazardous"
Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:32pm ET

NEW YORK, July 14 (Reuters) - The white powder received by The New York Times
in a letter on Friday has turned out to be harmless, the newspaper said in a
statement.

"New York City authorities have confirmed that the powdery substance found in a
business envelope addressed to The New York Times and opened by a mailroom
worker this afternoon has been field tested and determined to be nonthreatening
and nonhazardous," the statement said.

http://today.reuters.com/investing/financeArticle.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2006-07-14T213240Z_01_N1439367_RTRIDST_0_SECURITY-TIMES-POWDER-URGENT.XML
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:43 PM
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34. Is too threatening. ("nonthreatening & nonhazardous")
sure as hell is a threat. The powder may be harmless, but this was a threat.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:23 PM
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33. Cheney's at it AGAIN?
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:26 AM
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36. k
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:26 AM
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37. UPDATE 2-New York Times investigates envelope with powder
http://today.reuters.com/investing/financeArticle.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2006-07-14T184007Z_01_N1476515_RTRIDST_0_SECURITY-TIMES-UPDATE-2.XML


(adds details, background)

NEW YORK, July 14 (Reuters) - The New York Times (NYT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Friday it had received in its mailroom an envelope containing white powder, raising fears of a possible recurrence of anthrax-tainted letters sent to newsrooms and other offices in late 2001.

"At about 12:30 p.m. (1630 GMT) this afternoon ... an employee opened an envelope that contained a white powdery substance. The envelope was handwritten and addressed to the New York Times, not to any individual. The postmark was from Philadelphia with no return address," said Times spokeswoman Catherine Mathis.

Emergency vehicles and an ambulance were parked outside the newspaper's offices on 43rd Street to investigate the incident. The New York Police Department confirmed it was investigating the incident.


Conservatives have criticized the Times recent weeks for writing about the Bush administration's covert efforts to stamp out terrorism financing.

This week protesters rallied outside the newspaper to object to its decision to publish details about terrorism financing and secret government programs to monitor phone conversations of U.S. citizens.

<snip>
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:26 AM
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38. UPDATE 6-Letter to NY Times had white powder, own editorial
http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?type=companyNews&storyid=244651+14-Jul-2006+RTRS&WTmodLoc=InvArt-L2-CompanyNews-2

(Adds suspicion that powder was corn starch, paragraph 3)

By Mark Egan

NEW YORK, July 14 (Reuters) - The New York Times on Friday received a letter containing a suspicious white powder and a copy of a recent editorial in which the paper defended its coverage of the Bush administration's anti-terrorism programs.

Tests found the powder to be harmless, but not before the incident helped push U.S. stocks lower and raised fears of a possible recurrence of anthrax-tainted letters sent to newsrooms and other offices in late 2001.


"Field tests of power contained in an envelope mailed to The New York Times (NYT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) indicate that it is an organic substance, probably corn starch. A definitive analysis is awaiting laboratory testing by the Department of Health," a police statement said.

The substance was found to be "nonthreatening and nonhazardous," the Times said.

<snip>
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:26 AM
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39. Times: Preliminary tests show powder in letter is cornstarch
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/national/article.aspx?storyid=35442


NEW YORK (AP) — The New York Times has been given some good news by investigators.

A suspicious powdery substance in an envelope sent to the paper today is likely corn starch. The paper says police were called after an employee in its New York mailroom opened a business-sized envelope containing a beige powder.

The Department of Environmental Protection, through field tests, preliminarily identified the substance as corn starch. Beside the powder, the envelope also contained an editorial about reports on secret government anti-terrorism programs with a red “X” through it.

The handwritten letter had no return address but had a Philadelphia postmark.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:26 AM
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41. same ap article but more details....
http://www.news1130.com/news/international/article.jsp?content=w0714101A

<snip>

The employee, identified in a Times story as a 54-year-old man, put the envelope in a plastic bag and called police.

The employee was examined at a hospital but showed no symptoms or injuries, Mathis said.

The building's eighth floor was evacuated and sealed off for about 4 1/2 hours as the police hazardous materials unit conducted tests, Mathis said. The mailroom and the Travel and Styles sections, among other departments, occupy the eighth floor, Mathis said. She did not know how many people work on the floor.

The worker who opened the envelope was isolated, although he appeared to be unharmed, police said.

Anthrax-tainted letters were sent to numerous media outlets and offices in 2001, just weeks after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Five people died and since then, officials have been cautious when suspicious powders are detected.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #37
40. We need to monitor Free Republic closely, to see if any of them
brag about having sent that letter.
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