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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:35 AM
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Mexico's Fox in favor of new round of elections
Mexico's exiting President Vicente Fox for the first time said that he is in favour of an eventual second round of the presidential election to resolve the impasse in the country following the result of the July 2 vote. That election gave a slim victory to the conservative candidate Felipe Calderón over the left-leaning Andrés Manuel López Obrador, who has contested the outcome.

“I am inclined toward a runoff intended as an instrument to obtain a majority that consents taking the more important decisions for the country”, stated Fox, in clear reference to the razor-thin margin of 243,934 votes that separate Calderón from Amlo, as the candidate of the Party of Democratic Revolution (PRD) is popularly called.

Fox, accused by ‘subcommander’ Marcos of orchestrating electoral fraud in favour of Calderón, reiterated his “absolute confidence” in the Electoral Tribunal, the only body authorised to proclaim the new president.

The Court is examining the over 360 appeals presented for the most part by the leftist coalition headed by the PRD. It has until August 31 to draw its conclusions and September 6 to proclaim a winner.

http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?idCategory=33&idsub=135&id=4510&t=Mexico's+Fox+in+favor+of+new+round+of+elections

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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:03 AM
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1. Whoa! This election ain't over.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:07 AM
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2. Run Off? Without a third party?
AMLO would win that hands down without Madrazo in the picture siphoning leftist votes.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:06 AM
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3. We should have had another election here in 2000.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:12 AM
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4. No.
A runoff is not acceptable. Only a new election under the existing laws.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:01 PM
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5. Surprising to see him on the right side of this. Very unexpected.
Hope they'll have the decency to do it. The world awaits their decision.

It'll be a very "bumpy ride" for Calderon if they don't at least make some very impressive gesture.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:18 PM
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7. Maybe, maybe not....
Why doesn't he mention a complete recount, or does he already know what the results woud be?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:27 PM
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9. I'm sure he does! A recount would be so much simpler, quicker.
Yep, a new election would help cover up what they don't want the public to know.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:08 PM
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6. As Shrub would say, it's only a goddamned piece of paper!!!1
A run-off would be fine if it were provided for in the legalities. But, oh well, see Shrub's quote.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:19 PM
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8. Does his opinion really have any sway with the electoral tribunal?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:10 PM
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12. I expect the tribunal has secretly leaked news to Fox that
there appears to be evidence of fraud and their findings would be in favor of Obrador. Which is why Fox is now suggesting a do-over election.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:13 PM
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13. The point is taken but...
... no one had to tell Fox anything. He was one of the maestros.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:22 PM
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14. True, and the Tribunal probably gave Fox the headsup that
the evidence Obrador supplied them could expose Fox's dirty dealings so Fox is now suggesting a new election instead of the requested recount. Just Fox trying to cover his butt.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:29 PM
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15. Sounds perfectly reasonable.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:54 PM
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10. Fox..."reiterated his “absolute confidence” in the Electoral Tribunal"
Yuh...he's absolutely confident that the Electoral Tribunal will do nothing and then select Calderon winner.

Just like the US in 2000, when Bu*h had absolute confidence that the SCOTUS was going to select him to the pResidency.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 01:03 PM
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11. In case someone has no idea whom the U.S. favors, a Voice of America
article can help:

Mexico's Winning Presidential Candidate Favors Strong Ties to US

By Greg Flakus
Houston, TX
20 July 2006

Mexicans are still not completely sure who won their presidential election, more than two weeks after the voting. Official results showed ruling party candidate Felipe Calderon winning by less than six-tenths of a percentage point over leftist rival Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who has challenged the results.

If the legal challenges fail and Calderon is officially declared the winner, as is expected, he would keep Mexico on the same free-market and free trade track it has been on under President Vicente Fox. VOA's Greg Flakus reports from Houston that would bode well for relations with the United States.


President Bush and other U.S. officials have consistently said the United States will work with whichever candidate is declared the winner in Mexico. But the apparent victory by Felipe Calderon certainly presents Washington with fewer problems.


Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador
Lopez Obrador is viewed by many business leaders in Mexico and the United States as a more volatile and problematic figure who would seek changes in the North American Free Trade Agreement. NAFTA binds Mexico commercially with the United States and Canada.

Felipe Calderon, on the other hand, is a Harvard graduate who wants to expand Mexico's trade relations.
(snip/...)

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-07-20-voa27.cfm



propaganda overload!
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