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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:43 PM
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Family Vows to Battle Anna Nicole Smith

Full story: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20060723/D8J1C4I00.html

Family Vows to Battle Anna Nicole Smith
Jul 22, 8:25 PM (ET)

DALLAS (AP) - A month after the death of E. Pierce Marshall, who feuded for years with Anna Nicole Smith over his father's oil fortune, his family says they are more committed than ever in their legal battle against the former Playboy playmate.

"Nothing has changed from the family's standpoint as to how this case should end up and we will handle it as Pierce did, in his honor," the family told The Dallas Morning News in a written statement.

Marshall, the son of tycoon J. Howard Marshall II, died June 20 at age 67. His family said his death was caused by a brief and extremely aggressive infection.

Smith, a former stripper, married the family patriarch in 1994, when he was 89 and she was 26. He died a year later, launching the legal dispute that reached the U.S. Supreme Court.


Anna Nicole Smith leaves the U.S. Supreme Court in Washington in this Feb. 28, 2006, file photo. A month after the death of E. Pierce Marshall, who feuded for years with Smith over his father's oil fortune, his family says they are more committed than ever in their legal battle against the former Playboy playmate. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

A federal court in California awarded Smith $474 million in a complicated legal twist that began after she declared bankruptcy. That was later overturned.

Last March, Smith won another victory when the U.S. Supreme Court revived the case. The justices ruled that federal courts could have jurisdiction and told the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to reconsider her case.

Family friend and Houston attorney Rusty Hardin said the federal court soon will be notified that Elaine Marshall, E. Pierce Marshall's widow, is now the estate representative.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:45 PM
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1. Of course, all of these people could try working for a living
Nah...
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:50 PM
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2. He knew what he was getting into when he married her.
She made him happy and he promised to take care of her.

Sounds like a bunch of vindictive SOBs instead of people really wanting to honor their father's requests.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:13 PM
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5. Or what he hoped to be getting into.......
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:16 PM
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6. She's made it sound like he got what he wanted to get into.
Kudos to her. I couldn't sleep w/ an old man. Seems to be she did quite a job.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:44 PM
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15. Well that and Viagra works,
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 09:48 PM by anotheryellowdog
and that's a good thing. I mean, why not? He had the bucks to get a beautiful young woman. He knew what the score was, and so did she. And thanks to modern science, he might well have been able to get it up. I say if he had the money to afford a good time or two or three before he died and she was willing to provide it, then so be it. Where's the harm? He died with a grin on his face, and she potentially gets a lot of cash that he wanted her to have. Looks like no harm no fowl to me although as MrSlayer notes, I do agree that it wouldn't hurt her to share. God knows there's enough to go around.

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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 04:30 AM
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55. Wrong, there was a news article saying she wouldn't have sex
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 05:07 AM by superconnected
with him - by his publicist, while he was still alive.

The guys had a press agent explaining that he was still a sexually active man and that his intentions in the marriage were that she would, and she refused to do it at all up to that point. It was only a few months before his death.

I believe he was threatening disinheritance, less money, smth like that.

I'll try to look it up tomorrow. Too late tonight. I absolutely remember it happening.
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:16 AM
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59. I saw an interview with his caregiver or maid or something on TV
She said that they were fond of one another, spent a lot of time together, and that they had sex often. She even gave an example of one time they were on vacation and Anna took him upstairs to the hotel suite. When the caregiver came up later, all his clothes were on the floor and his shirt had all the buttons ripped off it. :evilgrin:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:05 PM
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3. He wanted her to have it, she should get it.
She, in turn, should offer to split 50/50. Everyone walks away with way more money then any one person or family should have.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:05 PM
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4. This is ridiculous
Give her the fricking money already. The legal fees must get into the millions easily, so why they don't just settle with her and stop making the lawyers rich is beyond me. There is certainly plenty to go around. And after being married to a partial corpse she earned it, IMO.
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:19 PM
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7. give the girl the money....lordy n/t
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:55 PM
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8. That crucifix is a nice touch.
I'm surprised that it doesn't burst into flames.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:15 PM
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9. She's more of a Christian than most
At least she doesn't torture in Christ's name.
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:24 PM
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39. Kick Their Ass Anna
Go Get it baby.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:23 PM
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10. you must be perfect.
she was his wife -- he was smart enough for a prenup if he had wanted one.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:24 PM
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12. sleep now.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:25 PM
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13. what ever.
:eyes:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:13 PM
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34. Anna Nicole actually has never done anything I'd call "Unchristian"
I don't give a damn that she was a stripper -- I personally don't consider that a sin. What I do consider a sin for someone who professes to be a Christian is being: judgemental, intolerance, cruel, and lying to hurt someone. None of which ANS has done. Nor did her husband do. But, her husband's nasty family of trust fund babes has done over and over again.

Anna deserves the money. Give it to her.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:23 PM
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11. Man, give her the FUCKING overhead clause!
Let's get back to page twenty-two, number 5, small 'a'. Subsidiary rights.



(I couldn't find a picture of the Great Ahmed Khan, so this will have to represent my reaction to this entire case)
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:39 PM
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14. Greedy SOBs
They are so greedy they will fight to the end and make the lawyers rich over this. The old guy must have wanted her to have this money. Not sure if her hubby willed it to her, but she deserves it for putting up with him.
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:28 PM
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41. I'm going to make you a TV star...just like Archie Bunker...
..."And I'm sure as shit not giving this pseudo-insurrectionary a piece of my show!"
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:26 PM
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43. Thank you!
At least someone got the reference!

"You can BLOW the seminal prisoner class infrastructure out your ass! I'm not knockin' down my goddamn distribution charges!
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:15 PM
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68. Got the reference?
That is the best movie ever made. Ever.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:29 PM
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16. She is a gold digging slut
No young girl marries an 89 year old man for "love". She wanted his money and she went after it. She is no better than a prostitute and she doesn't deserve a dime.She has plenty of money of her own. His family is more entitled to that money than she is. She wasn't with him that much when he was alive,she would take off and be gone for days. The poor old man probably wasn't in his right mind and she took advantage of him. She is a pig and I hope she loses.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 02:17 AM
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17. So much for the Democratic opposition to sexism.
Jeeze, that's a lot of rage over a dead old rich guy who had a young wife. You're not a Marshall by any chance, are you?

I can't understand the depth of popular rage I see over this. And the Marshalls are certainly not coming off very well, to say the least. Anna Nicole Smith has been regarded as a "low-class" woman for some time now, but her behavior has been a damn sight "classier" than the Marshalls'.

The wife inherits -- period. I thought that's how the law was written. She gets half in a divorce, and 100% if her husband predeceases her, although not too long ago, in many jurisdictions, women weren't considered competent to inherit from a rich husband. The legal rights of the widow have been part of feminism for a while. Similar issues are involved in the gay marriage controversy.

Or should we enact laws that make sure that only the "proper" people may inherit?

Better yet, why not just confiscate 100% of everything over $5 million? It would give rich old coots an incentive to better shelter their money and make stronger plans for its disposition after they die.

--p!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:00 AM
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20. and it's not as if the stupid family members worked any more than she did
for that money. in fact, she probably did a lot more to "earn" the money than they did .
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:03 AM
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32. Our National Mythology
The idea that honest, hard work and sacrifice leads to wealth.

It's bunk, and cases like this prove it.

Anna Nicole got lucky; the Marshalls are moralizing greedheads. They have lots of company. Neither of their positions come from the Work Ethic we seem to prize so highly.

It also demonstrates that love and money are incompatible. And, furthermore, popular resentment of the injustice of that overturned keystone of our mythology is deep and powerful. Most of us have experienced more anxiety and fear over money than over any other topic, including law, love and child-raising, yet the rich almost always get their loot by unethical methods, or blind luck. It's hard to fault the lucky, but we resent them for it. The unethical, we resent for good reasons.

And still, we worship both.

Since at least WWI, our society has turned money into a combination king, tyrant, hierophant, cop, drug, lover, and godhead -- all because of the perversion of "capitalism" that has been used to excuse the wholesale theft of the USA (and the world, really) from its citizens. Originally, the word "capitalism" described a system where people used capital to interact in a growing economic world; now, capital itself has generated "emergent behaviors" and social structures that control people.

I wonder what will happen when we humans become redundant.

Yes, I know -- just another idle rant.

So, may Anna Nicole Smith fare well, and may the Marshall family collectively grow a conscience. And may the Glorious People's Revolution be conducted without bloodshed. We can at least keep our fingers crossed even as we're compelled to pay a royalty when hope itself is patented and commoditized.

--p!

</rant>
</hope>
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 11:21 PM
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53. EXCELLENT Pigwidgeon!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :yourock: :yourock: I see someone's been reading his Foucault, Gramsci, Bourdieu and Giddens :hug:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:20 PM
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36. They've worked a hell of a lot less than she is
They are a bunch of trust fund babies. Anna Nicole didn't grow up with money, and worked for her bread and butter... and, as other posters have said, SHE has been the one to show some public restraint and class, not the little poor rich boy (who was like SIXTY).

Who knows if they had sex? Who the heck cares? She was a good and loyal companion to her husband... they both knew it wasn't a love match... but by all unbiased accounts, they WERE very close, and were friends. More than most "real" marriages have...
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 02:21 AM
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18. it really doesn't matter what kind of woman she is/was
HE married her. case closed.
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michaelwb Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:04 AM
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21. Exactly
And he didn't exactly marry her for her deep and sensitive soul.

Mutual use. They both knew the score.

There's not much difference between a woman who marries a rich man for his money and a man who marries a stacked stripper for her looks.

There's no moral high ground here.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 02:59 AM
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19. the old man certainly wasn't "poor" and neither is his shitty ass family
his "kid" died being a miserable selfish wealthy asshole . he was wealthy even without the money Smith would get. but he couldn't stand for her to get any of it.

so what if she married him for money. the old bastard married her of his own free will.

the only pigs i see in this are the shitty ass family members. fuck them all. and if they keep this up they will die in misery just as the kid did.

seeing what a shitty bunch of family members the old guy had, i'm sure he wants her to have whatever he left behind . at least he made his final days happy unlike his family members.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:10 AM
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22. Agreed, buff2.
I usually don't stand up for spoiled, wealthy assholes, but I will in this case.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:23 AM
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23. He was a lecherous old
man. She's a golddigger. He got what he wanted. She hasn't yet. Unless women really ARE second class citizens and nothing more than "property" I fail to understand this hatred for her. That the wife inherits is the law. PERIOD.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:29 AM
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25. OK; let's review this.
She got some breast implants, became a stripper and married an old man who was obviously in the grip of early dementia to inherit his money. How does this advocate for women's rights? All it says that if you're a young woman with a pretty face, you should get a boob job and look for an old rich guy. Nice way to set an example.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:31 AM
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27. prove he was in dementia
n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:22 PM
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38. It's been proven he WASN'T
Some of these posts are shameful...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:22 PM
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37. He wasn't in dementia -- that has been proven by medical records
What a nice sexist post or two from you today.

Yuck.

I gert enough sexist filth in the "real world."

Ignore.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:50 PM
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42. The laws that protect Smith protect all spouses
First of all, I have seen no evidence that Marshall was suffering from dementia. If he was suffering from dementia, his family should have taken efforts to protect him before he married Smith, such as getting the courts to appoint an independent guardian to look after his best interests.

Unless the family has evidence to the contrary, Marshall and Smith were legally married. As part of a legally married couple, Smith has legal rights, which the courts are supposed to and so far have recognized. If the family wins, the decision would not only affect Smith, but others as well. It would open the door for other families to try to exclude their spouses from the estates of their "loved ones." Unfortunately, many of these individuals may not have the resources to fight back.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #25
45. And he got a good looking trophy wife.
Is a wife supposed to forgo the inheritance because the old guy married her for her looks instead of love? Does she deserve nothing because she agreed to the deal?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:30 AM
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26. They were both adults
One has to ask, if Marshall had a good relationship with his family...why didn't he leave them all his dough?
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:16 PM
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49. And that law ...
is something that we generally want to extend to matrimony between same sex partners. Last I checked it was not illegal (or even contemptible) for a lecherous old man to marry a woman who has similar interests and they were both consenting adults. They get to do whatever they want and I hope they had more fun than some here at DU seem to want people to have. I mean... its just sex people. Relax. And in this case, their sex was performed in wedlock. Maybe she had a thing for older guys. I don't get where all of this moralizing comes from some of the people here. Some of the folks who post here need to look up what liberal means. We don't get to give Bible thumpers a hard time for forcing their religion down people's throats when some democrats among us judge people by their own narrow-minded morality about sex. Please. Bugs me.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:28 AM
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24. Why? Was it better for her to be a stripper
or marry an old man to support her son? People forget she was a single parent when she married the old guy. Woman do a lot of things to protect and support their children. And he may have had more than one reason to marry her. He had the ultimate trophy wife, he got sex with a hot babe, AND he could stick it to his children. We have no idea what his relationship he had with his children, but if it was a good one, they would have wanted to see him happy in his last remaining years, no matter what. They way they are acting shows they only cared about the money and not about him.

I'm not a big fan of Smith's, but from what I've read and seen she was good to him and he adored her, so what is the big deal. There is certainly enough money to go around, it's not like she is taking the food out of their mouths.

zalinda
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #24
33. Oh, that's so sad. Makes me want to cry.
That poor woman sacrificed herself for her kid.
Give me a freaking break.
:eyes:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #16
29. ahhh, the old female double standard
How very feminist of you.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:52 AM
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30. Sellouts aren't feminists.
She's a sellout and standing up for her is a terrible example to set. That's like saying "Girls, don't bother with college and a career; just get a boob job and marry an old wealthy man". Yeah, that's feminist.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. whatever
I guess I'm a sellout too. You have fun with that.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:36 PM
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50. I have to stand up for you here Blogslut
There's way too much anger at Smith on this thread to be defensible on just a "feminist" stance alone. Sounds like there's a lot of sour grapes here because the prudes among us can't get it through their heads that what these two people wanted from each other was entirely theirs to give. Some can judge them for that, but the whinyness of it all defies some insecurity that seems more like misogyny to me than anything else. Sad thing is that there's just as much misogyny here being expressed by men as by women. These two got married. She gets what he leaves her, and plenty of other rights too. She gets to stay with him at his bedside as he passes on, and THAT IS HER RIGHT. SHE EARNED IT BY COMMITTING HER LIFE TO HIM. Whether they had great sex together, or lousy sex together, anal sex, oral sex or orgies together even, does not matter to me or the law (nor should it). Nor does it matter what they intended to do as those crying "gold digger" or "old lech" on this thread seem to deem worthy of discussion. They did not get divorced and his will should be honored.

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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #30
54. Feminism isn't about forcing women to march lockstep
with any specific behavior or identity, be it porn star or soccer mom. Feminism is the freedom for women to have CHOICES; whether or not they fuck up in our eyes or become heros isn't the point. The point is that women should have the same freedom of choice and opportunity to make decisions as anyone else. Why should we be forced to work harder and be held to a higher standard than men?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:24 AM
Response to Reply #30
58. College & a career were not available in Ana Nicole's set....
She was raised POOR!

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:23 AM
Response to Reply #58
60. Very poor... "poor white trash," in Southern vernacular n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:16 PM
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35. My my my... mighty sexist and misogynistic of you
She wasn't a golddigger nor a slut. They both knew what the score was, and by all accounts, she truly had friendly affection for him, and was very nice to him. She stuck by her marital vows.

His family are a bunch of trust fund babies who already have a huge chunk of the old guy's money. It was HIS frigging money to do with as he wished. Saying he wasn't in his right mind is so disrespectful of this very smart and gracious man.

What a very shameful post. REghardless of yoyr gender, you sincerely do have some things to work out.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 04:26 PM
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65. Why is my comment upsetting you so much?
And to you and all the others who have flamed me.......is Anna a relative of yours or something? Khrist,you people are defending her like I was talking about your momma or sister.I stated my opinion,you all have yours.....now GET OVER IT already. :grr:
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #16
44. If the old guy didn't want his family to have it, why should they be
entitled to it?

I don't approve of anyone marrying for money, but unless they can prove she threatened or exploited him to the point that he changed his will, the old guy's desires should be carried out.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #44
69. She is not in his will.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #16
47. No young girl marries an 89 year old man for "love".
and just what business is it of yours? huh?

me thinks, maybe projection, of your wildest dreams???

:evilgrin:
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 07:42 PM
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48. huh?
My thinking is that they took advantage of each other. You sound like a bible thumper insulting prostitutes the way you do. I don't think that being a prostitute is most people's dream job (although I would argue that there may in fact be women and men who enjoy it), but it is work nonetheless and it is normally the kind of labor that women do under some sort of duress and they live off of their work. As a model and actress she did sell her body for money, and while you may have no respect for the people who do this, there is a demand, and workers deserve every amount of respect for their plight in whatever field. She didn't start out rich and famous, and if the eighty year old man didn't get some kicks out of the relationship at the time than I'm surprised. He sounds like a bit of a whore too. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a good time together, and I certainly hope they did. I don't think any moralizing that people outside their relationship will do can matter any more than that. I hope that they had a good time at the expense of bible thumpers like you.

On an entirely different tack, they got married and that is a contract. Whether she loved him or not; whether he loved her or not; whether they used each other or not... the contract is legal, fair, and she deserves what she was left by the man she married. This is a right that we as liberals generally want extended to all people regardless of the gender of the partner they choose to commit to in legal matrimony, and I think it should be extended in this case as well. Would you also have forbidden her to visit him at his bedside while he was dying? Because she was a "prostitute" as you so willingly exaggerate?

Sounds like you need to look inward and examine some of the misogyny that is going on with you. Calling Nicole Smith a "slut" or "prostitute" while characterizing her oil mogul husband as a "poor old man" exposes a lot of insecurity and anger on your part. I hope for your sake and for the women you apparently hate so much that you recognize this anger in yourself before you take it out on someone that you think you love.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 11:09 PM
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51. she is the WIFE
Edited on Sun Jul-23-06 11:13 PM by pitohui
for the love of god, she is the man's wife and should inherit the estate

period end of sentence

all wives who are disliked by evil stepchildren (60 year old step-children at that!) or evil in-laws are in danger if this precedent is set that the wife's property can be stolen through endless court actions

this should have been thrown out long ago and the property awarded to smith w.out question

why even fight for marriage rights if they are not going to be worth anything, if your spouse is not going to be protected from greedy relatives when you're gone?


when your husband dies, i hope some evil in-law is there to threaten you and strip you of everything by calling you slut, gold-digger, whatever

c'mon

she married him, and that's my final answer

we can NOT give every survivor of a man an excuse to badger and litigate widows into poverty, yes, smith has the money to fight this battle, MOST widows won't -- every dollar going to a lawyer is a meal skipped or a heater not turned on in winter

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:21 AM
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57. The old man earned the money....
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 06:27 AM by Bridget Burke
His worthless offspring never had to lift a hand. Fine educations, trust funds--& still enough inheritance to keep them in comfort the rest of their lives.

From somewhere, he's chuckling that the lifelong parasites are actually having to deal with lawyers--in public. Such tasteless activities for people with their social standing!

Ana Nicole earned the money, too. In her own way....


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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:34 AM
Response to Reply #16
62. you must be perfect....
to judge others so easily.

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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 04:20 PM
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64. I am
Any questions? :hi:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:32 AM
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28. The real winners are the lawyers
What a waste of money.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:16 PM
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40. This whole crew should settle and move on.
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 06:30 PM
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46. I'm no fan of Anna Nicole Smith
She has always struck me as being as dumb as a bag of hammers and trashy and ill-behaved besides.

But compared to Marshall's children, she's a classy lady. What a bunch of spoiled, grasping, selfish brats. She earned the money fair and square, and she should inherit whatever Marshall wanted to give her. Would you f*** a 90 year old guy for free? I wouldn't. Both of them made a deal for something they wanted, she held up her part of the bargain, and he was happy in his old age. His money bought him something a lot of guys would love to have at age 90, and I have no doubt that he knew what he was paying for it and so did she. Too bad if his family didn't approve of the relationship - they need to get over it and move on with the millions they already have. Right now they look like a bunch of bitter scrooges.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 11:14 PM
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52. i agree
if he didn't want her taken care of when he was gone, he wouldn't have married her

a man that rich could have bought a different woman every day if it was just about anonymous screwing but obviously they clicked together
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:08 AM
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56. my sentiments exactly
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:33 AM
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61. J. Howard Marshall Achieved Immortality via his Marriage to Anna
how you ask???

Would anyone have ever remembered him had he died an old widower in his bed? In spite of his achievements, he was not a household name.

Here is a quote of his...

"I really don't care much about riches, but I do care about achievement. That's all that matters."

http://factweb.net/Profile.htm

In his day, he accomplished a great deal...but he wasn't famous...he wasn't Warren Buffet...the only folks who knew him were those who were in his business.

I think the saucy old guy did exactly what he wanted...and today his name is mentioned over and over again....hahahaha

What a hoot.


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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 09:08 AM
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63. How mean do you have to be that you'd spend it all on lawyers rather
than share it with her?



:shrug:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 04:38 PM
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66. Give her her share, keep your own share and leave each other alone. (nt)
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 04:50 PM
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67. Slam dunk
Unless he was of unsound mind at the time of marriage, she inherits, period. The rules are no different here.

And this is the public's business...why? :shrug:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 08:59 PM
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70. Give her the money
this has gone on long enough.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 09:38 PM
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71. Maybe he married her specifically to disinherit the kids.
For all we know he laughed himself silly all the way to the grave. It's one thing not to give the kids the money, but even better to drive them crazy by leaving it to a young wife
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:01 PM
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72. Wicked thinking, but damn, I LOVE it!
:rofl:
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:04 PM
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73. I think it is a combo of my post #61 and probably your idea as well
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