Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Democrats may widen presidential race locales

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 02:39 AM
Original message
Democrats may widen presidential race locales
July 22, 2006, 11:29PM
Democrats may widen presidential race locales
Panel votes to add Nevada and South Carolina to the '08 primaries

By ADAM NAGOURNEY
New York Times

WASHINGTON - The Democratic Party moved toward the most significant changes in its presidential selection process in 30 years Saturday, a rewriting of its election-year calendar for 2008.

The party's Rules and Bylaws Committee voted for early contests in two new states — a caucus in Nevada and a primary in South Carolina. Party officials said the change was almost certain to be ratified by the Democratic National Committee next month.

The immediate effect would be to decrease the influence of Iowa and New Hampshire, the two states that have started — and some party officials argued, unfairly dominated — the nominating process since 1976.
(snip)

The change was applauded by Democrats who have long argued that the current system gave too much power to two states that were economically, geographically and ethnically not representative of the nation. In turning to Nevada and South Carolina, Democrats said they were looking to give blacks, Hispanics and union members more of a say.
(snip/...)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4065540.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 02:59 AM
Response to Original message
1. I don't have a problem with a change. I have to wonder how much
this change is going to pi** off the people in NH and IA?

I'd also be surprised if the Dems got much positive response for Dems!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:58 AM
Response to Original message
2. I think that this is a good thing
The more the merrier and all that right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:34 AM
Response to Original message
3. How much influence does Reid have in Nevada?
I'm happy about the change but not if a party leader can control a state's caucus vote. I prefer primaries to caucus'. I do like the SC choice and the Nevada choice will let California activists get more involved by taking long weekends in Nevada.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:54 AM
Response to Original message
4. I would rather a few Democratic states were added I'm tired of repug
states choosing our candidate. At least one democratic state should be involved in the selection. How are we going to get back to what Democrats believe if only the DLC/Repug states are allowed to vote. By the time they get around to Democratic states it's over already.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Repug states?
Edited on Sun Jul-23-06 09:11 AM by CornField
Wow. There is no single state which is representative of the entire nation.

Further, when you add more states into the beginning mix, you do little more than to PREVENT candidates from jumping in. Campaigns cost money and Iowa and New Hampshire were affordable and doable for the vast majority of people who wanted a stab at the White House. Two more states -- larger ones at that -- will serve to more than double expenses. So much for your Al Sharptons, Carol Moseley Brauns and Dennis Kucinichs.

I fully support Iowa moving their caucus ahead to allow the friendly agreement between IA and NH to take affect once again and for NH to jump *any state* placed betweent the two. January is damn cold in Iowa. It might be refreshing to caucus in October.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Even in CA Feinstein's approval ratings are higher than Boxer's
So I am not sure adding a blue state is going to add the army of progressives you are looking for. Personally, I wish we could have runoffs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #4
12. What is NH?
And Iowa deep down?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #4
13. I agree with you
I think there's a potential for the GOP to mess with Dem primaries. I'd support early primaries in more moderate or less GOP leaning states - especially those that have a tamper-proof process for choosing candidates.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:07 AM
Response to Original message
6. We need a national primary
We need to move away from any situation where some people get more control over the nomination process than others because they happen to live in a particular geographic area.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:36 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. A national primary probably would have given us Dean
and victory. Iowa and New Hampshire gave us Kerry and capitulation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. That would increase the chance of a convention brokered nomination.
Not many people could garner over half of the convention delegates in a wide field running on the same day.

Plus, I think caucuses are far superior to primaries.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #10
14. Aren't caucuses more subject to "tampering"?
:tinfoilhat:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. No, I don't believe so.
No voting machines.

No independent or cross-over voting.

Public votes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:13 AM
Response to Original message
8. Good. The present system is broken.
We need candidates that kick ass and take names, not lying suit-droids that wouldn't know a principle if it walked up and clubbed them up side the head.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:21 AM
Response to Original message
11. I like it.
I like the locations and the schedule.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 08:23 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC