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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:12 PM
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Bush sees Chavez as threat undermining democracy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/31/AR2006073100674.html

Bush sees Chavez as threat undermining democracy

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Monday he sees Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez as a threat to undermining democracy but not a military threat.

Chavez has threatened to shut his government U.S.-based refiners and sell oil to other nations if Washington decided to cut diplomatic ties, a prospect that Washington has not suggested it would do.

Bush told Fox News Channel's "Neil Cavuto" that Chavez' threat is an "indication that we've got to make sure we've got a wise energy policy in the United States" and repeated his desire to wean the country from its dependency on foreign oil.

As for whether he sees Chavez as a threat to the United States, Bush said: "No, not a military threat. We've got a very strong military and we can deal with any threat to the homeland there is. And will if we have to. But, no, I don't view him as a threat. I view him as a threat of undermining democracy."


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:14 PM
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1. Bush surely has tried to undermine Venezuela's democracy! n/t
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:24 PM
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7. Hugo Chavez Is Crazy!
Well, actually, he's not.

http://www.alternet.org/story/16255/

How the American media distorted events in Venezuela beyond all recognition is clear to one who reported from there.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:31 PM
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Sorry, dupe. n/t
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 04:00 PM by Judi Lynn
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:31 PM
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16. Thank God for people like Greg Palast, a FINE AMERICAN!
Otherwise, we'd be stuck with only the hard-right-spun, Bush-approved product in which we've been drowning!

The propaganda all has a signature, as you notice, using the same words, over and over again.

Real writers still have their integrity intact, and Greg Palast heads the list.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:14 PM
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2. Hell he was democratly elected, and by a higher percentage
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:16 PM
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23. By a higher per centage than Junior stole his two?
:)

(Btw, every time I see your screen name, I want some pan. lol)
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:15 PM
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3. of course. bush stole 2 elections and chavez won 2 by landslides
therefore he must be 'a threat to democracy'

i think bush has democracy and oligarchy mixed up.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:17 PM
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4. wasn't that Saddam ?
make up your mind
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:20 PM
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5. *yawn*
now that things have really fallen apart for BushCo., they fall back to the tiresome demonizing of a few select nations, as if that will justify their crimes.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:28 PM
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12. A couple of things * said
that I can find fault with. First, our dependence on foreign oil must be curbed, (my words not his). *co really doesn't want our dependence on foreign oil to stop because then his income from foreign oil would stop. Bush is an oilman, at least he likes to call himself one. Second, he referenced the US as the "homeland". didn't Hitler call Germany the homeland too?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:05 PM
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20. It does kind of shake you when in an old history of Germany
you see the Gestapo refered to as the 'state homeland security apparatus'.

I wish I could remember where I saw it -- Rise and Fall of the Third Reich?
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MaineYooper Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:24 PM
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6. MaineYooper sees Bush as threat undermining democracy. nt
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:25 PM
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8. Classic projection. nt
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:25 PM
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9. If 'IT *' ain't bush approved, then it ain't democracy...........
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 03:25 PM by Double T
'WE' would never want to interfere with the 'freedom' of neocons to do what they will to whoever they want. 'IT *' can be an animal, vegetable or mineral.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:26 PM
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10. "A threat of undermining democracy." Oh, boy, that's a good un'
Has the Boy King turned to comedy?
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:26 PM
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11. thats funny
I think bush is the one that is undermining democracy.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:28 PM
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13. *'s new code phrase for "You're on our list . . . " n/t
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:29 PM
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14. Whatever Bush says is a fucking lie! Pimping for the oil companies!!!
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:30 PM
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15. Moving on. Nothing to see here...Just a Chimp talking trash!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:34 PM
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17. Why is that bushy? Because he got elected, resisted your coup...
...and has NEVER stopped rubbing your snout in the shit about the fact that you couldn't find your ass with a map and directions?

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:34 PM
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18. some great background in this documentary
on Chavez and the roots and fruits of the Bolivarian Revolution:

Venezuela Bolivariana
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:11 PM
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31. Anyone who needs a foundation in Venezuelan current events
and has found him/herself strangely uninformed by useful information in the U.S. media can't afford to miss this short film.

We get so few opportunities to gain a large charge of usable information painlessly!

Thanks to Minstrel Boy.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:03 PM
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19. Bush should know!
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:13 PM
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21. Breaking........
"Chavez sees Bush as threat undermining democracy" :think:

:sarcasm:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:15 PM
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22. Breaking: Bush continues to project his bs all over Chavez. n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:34 PM
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24. I doubt Chavez is troubled by the remark. Like Pootie Poot,
he'd be the last in line for King George Iraqi-style democracy.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:37 PM
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25. I see Bush as a threat undermining Democracy!!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:42 PM
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26. "the homeland." does anyone else feel a wave of nausea when bush refers
to the United States of America as his own personal property?
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:46 PM
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27. only American Indians can refer to The Homeland
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:50 PM
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28. And there you have it folks!
Democracy is Bush's code word for OIL.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:22 PM
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29. Was that the Busholini Impersonator?
It's difficult to determine the difference.
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Laotra Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:00 PM
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30. "homeland"
A word he learned from his grandpa, I suppose...
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ikri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:26 PM
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32. I wonder..
Does * actually understand the concept of democracy?

Does he simply believe that a democratic government is nothing more than a government run for the benefit of big businesses?

From *'s perspective Chavez would be undermining democracy by his actions. Indeed any government that doesn't give top priority to enriching the already super-rich seems suspect in *'s eyes. Whereas any government, even totalitarian dictatorships, that do enrich big businesses are held up as perfect examples of good governments.

:shrug:
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:30 PM
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33. I respect Chavez MUCH more than I respect Bush.
Of course, that doesn't mean much, since I also respect retread tires more than I do Bush.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:32 PM
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34. Bush You Sick Little Man
you might think you can get away with anything, and everything you do, but after 5 years running the World into the ground, I think your actions have woken the "Sleeping Giant" that will squash you!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:35 PM
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35. Venezuela's democracy works much better than our's.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:38 PM
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36. The world has seen Bush's version of democracy in Iraq
and the world says: No, thanks!

I don't care what Bush says or does. He is an idiot, a dangerous theocrat, and a war criminal.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:54 PM
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37. Last I checked
Chavez won his election fair and square and survived a Bush backed coup.

Democracy works just fine in Venezuela.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 08:05 PM
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38. Foreign Oil
Now we have a new thingy. Just look at how much oil is imported and how much is not imported.

Think someone skipped their math classes.
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