BREAKING: Actor Mel Gibson enters rehab ...

following his arrest on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol, his spokesman confirms.

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/29/btsc.perry/index.html


oh no!!!


on edit: is this really considered BREAKING NEWS? We report, you decide.

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Hopefully if he gets right with himself he can get right with the rest of the world. Hopefully.

I'll be filing this under who-gives-a-damn.

but it is the right thing to do. I don't have a clue why he is doing it, so many here seem to but really, I just wanted to post that. :)

He is accepting responsibility for getting caught and engaging in damage control.

I wish him well in rehab but he still has an ugly soul and all the rehab in the world won't fix that.

you only need to look at his father's writings and Mel's stand that his father never lies, to know it's a part of who he is. Rehab may help with his drinking, but he has a very nasty core and rehab won't help with that. Of course, rehab is a good place to go into hiding......for now.

Why is that protecting (or repairing) the image is more important than doing the right thing? Celebrities think they can skate as long as they admit to a "problem" which may or may not be real.

I think prison is pretty extreme but some kind of community service (especially anything have to deal with the "have-nots" which is normally considered by clebrities to be beneath them) would be best for this guy. But privileged assholes like Mel Gibson get away with so much shit in our country it's unreal.

the local Jewish Community Center.

he's only doing this because he got caught. Another typical religious nutcase hypocrite.

I've always thought he was highly overrated as an actor and too full of himself.

...my name's Mel and I'm a _______________________________."


So many choices...

I read he went on some kind of anti bush tirade a while back. Never did read the tirade though

I'd go with "half-backed has-been"

Is there a 12-step program to stop hating?

Or escape from the media for a while?

BTW, His BAC was only .12 -- not straight sober, but not exactly roaring drunk. It wasn't exactly the beer talking.

jim

my BAC is probably still .012 from Saturday night.

Definitely to escape for awhile.

Wonder what Sean Hannity has to say about his wonderboy now?...Hannity basically performed on-air fellatio on the guy when the Passion was released.

It was the alcoholism talking. As any recovering alcoholic will tell you, or anyone who has lived with one for any length of time, it doesn't take much to get them roaring drunk.

Rehab or escape? I think both are called for. Working on kicking a habit like that isn't exactly helped by being in the media spotlight.

:hi:

maybe it would help out in the Middle East.

Must be from South Asia or Australia...but what is it?

J

from South America. :hi:

Most of the anteaters I've seen were all brown, not the multicolored variety in your post. Very cool. Thanks.

J

which would be a rare and wonderful thing!

Speaker: "Hello, I'm John and I'm a bigot".

Audience: "Hello John the bigot!"


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I captured a screen shot just for posterity's sake.

Mel gets the BREAKING NEWS banner for checking his anti-semite ass into rehab, and meanwhile children are being torn to bits by bombs daily in Iraq and it barely gets a story.

What a shame.

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and my Beagle couldn't agree more!

crazy-ass movies.

He's only going into rehab to give the appearance that his RACIST, ANTI-SEMITIC RANTINGS
were really the product of his addiction--and that he's being an amazing, strong man who
is now taking responsibility.

I call total bullshit.

First off--Gibson's alcohol level at the time of arrest was only .13. That is HARDLY falling-down-I-can't-control-what-I-say-drunk. It's barely drunk. He claims to be an alcoholic---and that further underscores the notion that he wasn't drunk enough to say things that he otherwise would NEVER, EVER say.

Secondly, if I got sloshed--I know for sure that I wouldn't go around screaming anti-Semitic comments. That's because I'm not an anti-semite. Alcohol brings out the truth in people. When their guard is let down, their editing function becomes impaired and their true thoughts sometimes bubble up to the surface. I'm sorry, but anti-Semitic views don't come out of your mouth--unless they're in your head.

Gibson knows he is complete toast. His career really is over.

Everyone suspected that he was anti-Semitic. He was raised by a man who openly states that the Holocaust never happened, and that Jews are inferior. Gibson's swore that his movie was not anti-Semitic, and he rationalized the scenes that cast the Jews in a bad light, "Oh no...you're reading into things," Gibson would say.

Now, we find out he hates Jews and blames them for the world's problems. He's a liar, a con artist, and a complete jerk.

This is nothing but a Limbaugh-type rehab. He's going to curry sympathy and to blame his hatred of Jews on his "addiction."

Nice try asshole. I'm not buying it.

it's drunk enough to kill somebody dead while trying to drive a car, as thousands prove ea. year

it may be that his liver is starting to fall apart and he gets totally faced faster than you do -- but if you forever believe that o.12 is "not that drunk" you too are on the same highway to self destruction

i wonder what people suggest that mr. gibson do other than go into rehab? he is clearly ill and falling apart physically and psychologically

i am not fan of his crappy pandering movies but that doesn't mean i don't know a drunk when i see a drunk -- and mr. gibson was stinking fallin' down drunk

0.12 "not that drunk" indeed! gibson ain't the only one on the fabulous internets in need of rehab, i'll say that much

"0.12 "not that drunk" indeed! gibson ain't the only one on the fabulous internets in need of rehab, i'll say that much"

LOL!

Soooooo....you're actually suggesting that I'm in need of alcohol rehab?

BTW---.12 is what a 180 lb man would blow after having 7 drinks in 3 hours. As I stated---that's not totally schnockered to the point where you don't know what you're saying. That's the main point I was making--in case you missed it. Gibson is suggesting that a .12 rendered him crazy-insane, to the point where he was transformed into a raging, maniac, anti-Semitic who had NO IDEA what he was doing! Again, I call total bs! Yes, .12 is drunk. OBVIOUSLY. However, it's not completely blitzed. AND, as I stated--if the man is an accomplished alcoholic---with a big enough problem to be in rehab---then seven drinks in 3 hours is a lot---but it's certainly not enough to render him incapable of choosing his words.

You might want to let me know why you're suggesting rehab. If this is an intervention, I'm willing to listen! :rofl:

Based on what? The Hollywood gossip mill? The LAPD? Yeah, I'm sure all of THEIR motives are simon pure. They'll certainly give you the truth.

"First off--Gibson's alcohol level at the time of arrest was only .13. That is HARDLY falling-down-I-can't-control-what-I-say-drunk."

One beer has MUCH more of an effect on an alcoholic than a non-alcoholic. Do your homework on the subject before making a call on state of mind Mel was in. Alcoholics I've known usually start slurring their speech after one beer.

"Alcohol brings out the truth in people."

Alcohol as truth serum - interesting theory, but nevertheless bullshit. Anyone with any sense at all knows that alcohol make people more uninhibited, not more truthful. As Mel's editing function went, so went his ability to express what he was trying to say accurately. So try not to make the mistake of taking what every drunk at the bar tells you literally.

"His career really is over."

Hm, he still has a net worth of well over a billion dollars, a production company and a proven track record of making quality movies. How's your checking account doing? When was the last time you phoned up Iger?

For years, people wrote Dennis Hopper off as toast, and for far more rational reasons, and he came back. Intelligent people know that it's too soon to say, one way or the other. And unless you have potential personal or business dealings with him, it doesn't really concern you beyond your apparent need to engage in petty schadenfruede.

"He was raised by a man who openly states that the Holocaust never happened, and that Jews are inferior."

Do YOU believe everything your father believes, even if you believed that he never lied? Your logic doesn't quite work, does it?

"This is nothing but a Limbaugh-type rehab."

If you can't tell the difference between Mel Gibson and Rush Limbaugh, I feel very, very sorry for you. For one thing, Mel didn't have to break the law to indulge in his addiction. And why for you is the story 90% about Mel's drunken rants and 10% about the LAPD covering up the truth, yet again. Which potentially affects your life more?

He'll never be able to escape the fact that he spewed anti Semetic hate.

He's clearly somebody that should be in SOME kind of an institution.

doncha think?

When everyone portrays Gibson's movie The Passion they forget that it follows the gospels very closely and integrates the meditations of a nun who mused about what Mary's thoughts must have been. It was a beautifully done movie where Pilate concludes this is an internal matter between Jews which it was essentially. Jesus was Jewish, the followers of Jesus were Jewish and the enemies of Jesus were Jewish. Gibson had to distribute this independently for depicting the gospels. The Reformed Jewish movement looks at Jesus as a Jewish reformer - has anyone ever thought what would have happened to Martin Luther if he had gone to Rome as called? That said - I think Mel has some bitterness in this regard although his tirade indicates he does need help which hes getting.

Meditations my ass. I studied her "meditations" in catechism and then college ina theology class. She has been discredited. It did NOT follow the Gospels closely -- it followed her anti-Semitic ravings closely.

As someone said in a different thread today: even as a "recovered" Catholic, I'm still a more true and devout Catholic than Gibson and his heretical and unchristian beliefs and celluloid rantings.

It was no internal matter between Jews, no matter how you or any other apologist wishes to spin it. IF it happened, it was a Roman government matter... not all the Gospels makes it an internal matter.

Gibson has "bitterness"? You spin almost as well as Gibson... you just don't have a publicist. Actually, you probably ARE his publicist.

Some Jewish groups were concerned that the movie, by loosely following medieval passion plays, would feed anti-Semitic prejudice in the same way the passion plays did in earlier times. In response to their concerns, Gibson promised to remove the particular scene where the crowd shouts that the blood of Jesus be upon themselves and their descendents. (Actually, all he did was remove the English subtitles; the crowd still shouts these things in Aramaic.)

The underlying problem is the Gospels blame the Jews for the death of Jesus and not the Romans, while modern scholars believe that the Romans were responsible. Apparently, the Gospel writers were trying to separate Christianity from Judaism, which was in a bad odor in the Roman Empire, in the wake of the rebellion of the late 60s CE. (Several hints: The Sanhedrin is portrayed as meeting on the Sabbath and at night but the Sanhedrin would have done neither. Also, the death of Jesus was by crucifixion, which was a Roman form of execution reserved for political prisoners. The Jews employed stoning, as portrayed nicely in the movie Life of Brian.) Thus modern scholars identify the roots of anti-Semitism in the Gospels themselves. I personally find this troubling, as a Christian myself.

For a somewhat less charitable reaction to Gibson and his movie, please see the essay by Christopher Hitchens:
http://www.slate.com/id/2096323/

You hit the nail on the head is Christianity anti-semetic. Certainly, Christians have used the New Testament as justification for anti-semetic actions. So as a Christian then you're disputing the gospels - themselves and thats the issue whether you're Jewish or Christian - is Christianity valid. Anyway thankyou for your link. My point is just that its not whether Mel's movie is anti-semetic - its whether Christianity is anti-semetic and it seems that the Passion is central to that discussion. By the way Mel is a very conservative Catholic which I struggled to get away from in my early life but I did recognize the stations of the cross in his work.

No, not the Bible.

The German "mystic" Anne Katherine Emmerich and her antisemitic ravings -- including the "blood libel." Gibson used this as the primary source for TPOTC. Her works are a doctrinal foundation for Gibson's nutty Traditionalists "Catholic." TPOTC used alot of her work -- non-canonical elements not from the synoptic gospels, or historical sources. Now, technically heresy.

Gibson is in good company -- Emmerich's "Dolorous Passion" was also used by Hitler and his Deutschchristen to whip up hatred against the Jews.

That's what got him hung. The path to God is a personal one--not through the priests.

Also, the Romans preserved nailing to the cross for the absolute worst of criminals. And as you note, Pilate concludes this is an internal matter between Jews. It is far more likely that Jesus was tied to the cross and wasn't dead when he was brought down that evening. And remember, the Garden of Gethsemene was a long way away from the clamoring throng.

As has been noted, myths are other peoples' religions. Not one word of the gospels was written down anywhere near close to the time of the events themselves.

I think Tom Robbins was right in his book, "Another Roadside Attraction"--Jesus' body is in the Vatican somewhere.

were written. Gnosticism is a synthesis of Christianity, neo-Platonism and mystery religions. The Gospels were written (according to most secular scholars) in the interval from 60 to 120 CE (Mark was the earliest, Luke or John the last). However, certain letters of St. Paul were written earlier, before 60 CE or less than three decades after the death of Jesus. He was converted only a decade after the death of Jesus, so it seems likely that the doctrine of the resurrection was very early in the church. (What triggered that doctrine is another matter. I myself doubt theories of the sort you mention, that is, that Jesus didn't really die. I prefer the theory that Jesus appeared to his followers in spirit form. Such apparitions of deceased loved ones are not unheard of even in modern times, and may well have paranormal reality.)

By the way, if you read Gnostic gospels, they are much different than the canonical gospels. The canonical gospels speak of a rabbi who preached that the kingdom of God was close at hand, and who performed various wonders. But the Gnostic gospels are strange and symbolic in nature. They contain such things as Jesus teaching that no one can go to Heaven unless they take off their clothes. Of course, they weren't saying only nudists go to heaven; the metaphor is that "clothes" stood for the body, and the teaching was that you had to abandon your physical body to go to heaven in spirit form. This is sharply different than the Jewish belief that Jesus would have shared, that the resurrection would be bodily.

He's an anti-Semitic, racist asshole, full of hate. I don't know what the solution is for that, but I don't think it lies in alchohol rehab.

Nobody alive today bears any responsibility whatsoever for anything that was done 2000 years ago.

position of importance, let alone a Jewish reformer.

Film star and director Mel Gibson has launched a scathing attack on US President George W Bush, comparing his leadership to the barbaric rulers of the Mayan civilisation in his new film Apocalypto.

The epic, due for release later this year, captures the decline of the Maya kingdom and the slaughter of thousands of inhabitants as human sacrifices in a bid to save the nation from collapsing.

Gibson reveals he used present day American politics as an inspiration, claiming the government callously plays on the nation's insecurities to maintain power.

He tells British film magazine Hotdog, "The fear-mongering we depict in the film reminds me of President Bush and his guys".



http://uk.news.yahoo.com/12052006/364/gibson-inspired-fear-mongering-bush.html

Maybe he's one of those far-right nutballs who thinks bush is part of the UN 'one world gov' conspiracy - contrails and all that.

You may not agree with him on alot of issues but I think you should give him some credit on this one.

the Big Wigs in Hollywood are breathing a sigh of relief that Gibson has done himself in with this. Now they won't have to put up with his well-known-but-never-spoken-of Batshit Craziness. Watch his Projects go into Turn-around or "on vacation" in the next few months. Much like Tom Cruise, if you give them enough rope they'll do the ol' "thank God we don't have to hire him again since he dropped his guard and showed everyone how f'in' crazy he really is" job themselves.

I've never heard any 'chit chat' describing any director, producer, fellow actor or crew member who ever had any problem working with Gibson. I'd love to hear the real 'dirt'.

feather duster up his bum and a statue of liberty crown on his head i still wouldn't consider it 'breaking news'. but cnn is repeating the story every half hour for some reason.

Everytime CNN wastes our time with this, more people hear about it, more people put a face to anti-semitism and Mr. Gibson's career continues it's pathetic clockwise swirl down Hollywood's proverbial toilet.

Don't worry. Before you know it, they'll be back to NOT reporting on the Iraq war, the dishonesty of Republicans and how much Bush ISN'T drinking these days.

he won't being doing the "Apocalypta" movie or Holocaust documentary? :cry: Darn.

I do not know enough about him, am not actively involved in his life so am not able to pass any further judgement on him. I hope he gets the help he needs, would not wish alcoholism on anyone.

He said he's an alky. To not act like he's sincere could jeopardize his current movie in production. It would be reckless of him not to continue to act like he's got a drinking problem.

for people who hate Jews?

I'm being facetious here. But Gibson does have a real problem here, he's going to work hard to convince a lot of us that he isn't really an anti-Semite.

right that he cloaks himself in religon, claims to be a purified, loving family man and then proves what an asshole he really is.

I'd prefer he just own his shortcomings and say "like me or leave me" rather than remain in denial with his holier-than-thou arrogance.

I am enjoying your posts these days. You have a good sence of humor.

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And never will be. Gibson is a filthy stinking drunk, he doesn't need to drive himself around. He chooses to.

Missed opportunity, what are you being silly? You actually think Mel Gibson will educate repukes.

I think your position is naive to say the least.

Gibson has a long history of being openly homophobic, and this point of view comes across in at least two of his films, The Passion and Braveheart. I wouldn't know about the others because I haven't seen them as he appeals to me about as much as Tom Cruise does. Why the hell would liberals want to 'exploit' Gibson anyway. That is something the right would do. And liberals certainly can't make an ally of someone who despises gays.

He wasn't 'crazed'. He was just a little 'loose'. You only have to look to his films to see what his point of view is.

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Considering Mel's background, my guess is he's gone through life feeling victimized by his father/authority/power/the system...not to mention Hollywood insiders. Or at least the savior/victim theme seems part of his personal archetype. He will likely repent and rise again from the dead......even after Hollywood blacklisting.

broke by underestimating the intelligence of the American public." "Sincerity means everything if you can fake that you've got it made.

And this is just the first step in the damage control process etc etc..

Don't send him to the Jesuit Betty Ford. Hand that man an E-meter and hustle him over to the Celebrity Center.

Alcohol is the least of his problems.

until he inters the morgue.

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the misery and destruction being rained on much of the world because of bush is breaking news - sustained news actually.

Another actor (whose guts I can't stand) made a big noise about joining a 12-Step program many years ago. I refused to join the program because I thought he was officially associated with it as some sort of spokesperson.

Somebody from the cast of West Wing is doing the same thing.

IIRC he talked about that stuff when he was doing PR for his Passion film.

Mel wins. Step two after the apology.
As long as he keeps the money train rolling he will be just fine.