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niallmac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:16 PM Original message |
Sweden Stops Venezuelan Arms Sales. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Somebody Else Will Do It, Not To Worry |
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niallmac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. What did Venezuela do to deserve an embargo? |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. haven't supported war on terrorism, according to article. |
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niallmac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. They don't support our 1984 Fascism? The Bastards! n/t |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. they're not buying from us, even if we let them, they wouldn't be buying |
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jpkenny (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
63. Time Venezuelans to learn to make their own defensive weapons |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Seems like a pretty good time to start it up, doesn't it? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Didn't know Bush had gone this far.... |
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niallmac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Even though I know your holding back (ha) |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Contemptible situation, isn't it? n/t |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. WOW!!! We're arrogant, aren't we? No factory in the WORLD! If a |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
48. Best leagal minds in the world and this is how they use it. |
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alaric520 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
35. US Components |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Saab is 100% owned by GM since 2000. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Effing cOrporations again and spewed by cOrporate media |
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alaric520 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Saab Auto Unit is 100% owned by GM |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
71. You're right about GM and the autos, so I looked closer. Carlyle Group |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm sure the (cough) russians |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. (cough) No doubt. n/t |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. The chinese have plenty of stuff to sell too |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. No more adorable Pandas for the National Zoo |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. Why is Venezuala stockpiling weapons? |
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Henny Penny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Something tells me they fear an attack... from a country |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Ireland? |
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Henny Penny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. could be....! |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. US spending is about 40% of the worldwide military budget: |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 09:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Thanks for adding a little perspective. You can see what happens |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. God forbid anyone questions Saint Chavez |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:15 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Fine |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. The military budget data don't seem to support the assumptions |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #34 |
45. The military budget data provided is irrelevant. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. That's a pretty goddamned stupid question. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Yes. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
79. According to your own link, Venezuela is buying new jets because US ... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
81. How could comparative data possibly be irrelevant? You want to .. |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. I want my $1770 back. I can spend it on better ways to protect myself. |
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Herkdrvr (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
69. More perspective... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. funnel them to their friends in the FARC in Colombia? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. Yeah, especially when Chavez has never done that, while the U.S... |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 09:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
32. oh come on, you hear the reports because bush wants you to . n/t |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
42. Chavez thinks the US |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. U.S. already tacitly supported one failed coup attempt. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. But |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. That ploy has failed BIG time in Venezuela for Bush. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Whatever |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. With any luck at all those doors are closing for Bush. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
51. Because they are afraid and the world is beset with Neocon MADMEN. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. Oh, I dunno. One U.S.-backed coup attempt so far... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
82. Probably upgrading the basics |
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darkism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
9. Sweden has no reason to be manufacturing any weapons. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Tell Saab...they're the manufacturers. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
13. An embargo is an act of war. Venezuela has a case for sanctions against |
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darkism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. The Swedish government also ordered the takedown of The Pirate Bay... |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. Sweden's better than thi, but i can understand pressure. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. Well then, Russia and China will sell them the weapons. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
23. Anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I wonder why Venezuala wants them. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Because they don't want to end up like Panama '89 |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
57. Why does Canada want weapons? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
72. They are obviously going to be using defense weapons to attack |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Bush wants to have the least amount of expense involved if and when |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I'll respond to this again, cuz I think it is VERY important to note |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:07 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. We're building a base |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. We're building a base in Paraguay? When is it opening? - how about 2005??? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Great article, from a tremendous author. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Paraguay is nowhere near Venezuela. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. That's why I included an article on the Ecuador base. n/t |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. USA ain't just after Venezuela - they want the CONTINENT! |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Actually, they used to control the continent, but lost most of it recently |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Hyperbole |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Hyperbole , really? - then why the base? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. We have bases EVERYWHERE. |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Actually, the USA has bases in over 120 countries |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Make that 132 countries. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. You've misunderstood |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:32 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. They've been coming and going already. |
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enigma000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
33. I thought the US didn't have any power or influence anymore |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. No power or influence ? |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
38. When the Bushites demonize a democratically elected government, |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
41. So who will sell |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
78. Stupid on Sweden's part. Long after this AmeriKKKan maladministration is |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
80. I am sure they find somewhere else to buy from |
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