Proposed War Crimes Act Protection For Bush Admn Would Apply Retroactively

5:11 p.m. August 9, 2006

WASHINGTON – The Bush administration drafted amendments to the War Crimes Act that would retroactively protect policymakers from possible criminal charges for authorizing any humiliating and degrading treatment of detainees, according to lawyers who have seen the proposal.
The move by the administration is the latest effort to deal with treatment of those taken into custody in the war on terror.

At issue are interrogations carried out by the CIA, and the degree to which harsh tactics such as water-boarding were authorized by administration officials. A separate law, the Uniform Code of Military Justice, applies to the military.

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“I think what this bill can do is in effect immunize past crimes. That's why it's so dangerous,” said a third attorney, Eugene Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice.

Fidell said the initiative is “not just protection of political appointees, but also CIA personnel who led interrogations.”

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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20060809-1711-warcrimes.html

Fucking assholes - it never fucking ceases

not something they can just change. :grr:

THEY seem to think they can.

it'll be meaningless.

complicity in facilitating war crimes by passing this mess!

Check out the petition in the sig.

-Hoot

It would weaken a US law passed by Gingrich and the boys I believe.
They probably hoped to get Clinton on Bosnia but had to wait for Monica.

CYA war criminals.

EW-freakin-EWWWW! These people!!!! Jail cells isn't punishment enough!!! I hope they rot from the inside out. A crown of nails in hell is what they deserve.

They know they are war criminals! They are admitting it!

Spread this meme! LTTE time!

-Hoot

control and that they WILL be tried for war crimes, and they MUST know they are GUILTY AS SIN...
I cannot WAIT to see this whole fucking gang of liars, killers and thieves marched out in orange jump suits and shackles...what a wonderful image that is...

administration be excused? During the Second World War trials Nazi were told that "just following orders was no excuse". Only a Republican would think King George was above world law.

They know they have broken both US law and international law, they also know it is looking more and more likely they will lose control of congress and the investigations will begin.

This will be like the Iraq War vote right before the elections of '02... a polarizing bill that will make dumb people think the fuckhead republicans will keep them "safer"

They can't pass enough laws to cover their criminal asses.

This is absolutely insane!

I hope the media picks this up a bit and be sure to share this with everyone you know.

That a Hell of a lot of arm-twisting in Congress to get those "loose ends" tied up.

Otherwise folks could do legal stuff then be jailed for it if the government retroactively made that stuff illegal. Double edged sword.

Bush does have the ability to pardon folks tho. I suppose he'll be pardoning A LOT of people on the way out, including himself.

I think he better expediate those court cases now so that he knows for sure who and what to pardon.

:banghead:

After all, it's well known that the neos hate the CIA, with all their "analyses" and "justifications".

Why not let them take the fall and blame it all on overzealous operatives?

Or is this payback for Tenet's long, uncomfortable silence?

Any CIA convicted could implicate the person who gave him the command for the SAME crime.
In other words, the CIA person is guilty, can't get out of it because you were following orders, that was established at Nuremburg.
However, the person who GAVE you the order is just as guilty of the same crime per Nuremburg.

anyone who votes for this is simply stating they approve of criminal and treasonous actions.

I can see the indictments, the impeachments, the cleansing of the Supreme Court, some stiff Constitutional Amendments regarding mental and physical fitness for office (which we desperately need, after Nixon, Reagan and Bushy). They would do better to go into exile--they have no future worth having here.

ARTICLE I

SECTION 9

CLAUSE 3

Clause 3: No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

In effect, the BUSHEVIKs want to make legal past criminal acts; this is absolutely forbidden under the Constitution. The reason you see this in such a prominent place in our Constitution is the past history of abusing this power by European and British nobility (not just monarchs, and the English Parliament was pretty much noble dominated until the reforms of Lloyd George in the early 1900s). Since King George III sees himself as being above the law (well, even English kings weren't - remember Charles I), violating this doesn't seem to faze him or his Evil Empire.

With the current anti-incumbent mood in the country, the GOPigs are going to be scrambling to get as much of their agenda slithered through (perhaps some of the signing statements will implement new, unlegislated 'mandates') as possible. Look for an absolute frenzy if the Democrats take even one house of Congress back, and whoa - maybe both. We'll see a avalanche of lame-duck legislation aimed at restricting the ability of the incoming body to challenge the Executive Branch.

BTW, historians have a better name for Unitary Executive; it's called Stalinism. Isn't it amazing that the GOPigs learned so much about ruling from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union? It is a common cliche that imitation is the most sincere form of hero-worship. . . .

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PB

:kick:

push this through Congress right after Labor Day.