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NorthernSun Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:26 PM
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Terror 'may force freedom curbs'
The UK might have to modify its freedoms in the short term in order to prevent their "misuse and abuse" by terrorists, John Reid has said.

He conceded that was never an easy request, but it was up to everyone to ask: "What price our security, at what cost can we preserve our freedoms?"

The UK faced its "most sustained period of severe threat since the end of World War II", the home secretary warned.

He urged people from all communities to help by being vigilant.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/5257518.stm

Right on cue. Didn't take long to tip their hand.
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McKinneyIsAHero Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:28 PM
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1. The Brits are a much braver people than we
They won't buy this; the Parliament rejected Blair's "terror laws" before and they'll reject again.

Churchill himself said in times of crisis that liberty is the most important thing. The Brits aren't like us; they won't hand away their freedom
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:26 PM
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8. They aren't any braver.
They're just a bit more used to this kind of action than Americans, and thus it comes as less of a surprise.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:28 PM
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2. but they were to fly to the US and do their dirty work.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:29 PM
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3. Here it is folks. The reason for the play up of this failed
(if it existed at all) terror threat.

Gotta take away them freedoms from the US and Britain that we're trying to damn hard to shove down the throats of the Iraqi people (so they say).
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:45 PM
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15. That's about what Kudlow just said
Only he wasn't joking. Geez, if we didn't have to deal with that pesky Constitution the terrorists couldn't get us.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:29 PM
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4. Security is an illusion
it's not worth giving up your freedom for.

If someone really wants to kill you. All the security in the world won't do you much good. No less the bogus security that our government provides for us.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:33 PM
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5. Amen.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:34 PM
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13. Exactly!!!
You simply CANNOT protect all people all the time from all danger.

The best policy is to have as many friends as possible and keep your enemies to a minimum.

I wonder how many sit in fear of islamic terrorists and drive to the local convenience store only to have their throat cut for their car.

As far as homeland security, there isnt a bigger oxymoron anywhere. Just another way to funnel cash to their supporters.

Oh but dont worry, our great political leaders were never in any danger, phewww.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:11 PM
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6. Time for Tony's head on a pikestaff at Traitor's Gate,
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SixStrings Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:18 PM
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7. What 'freedom'?!?!. nt.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:30 PM
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9. What the fuck do these people know about freedoms?
The 'terrorists' have so won! Instill fear, check. Make people hate their govts, check. Turn once Democratic societies into soft-porn dictatorships, check. Divide the citizens and make paranoia run rampant, check.

Yup, really beating up on those 'terrorists'. :eyes:
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ikri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:37 PM
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10. Because...
Today's events prove that the police and intelligence services cannot stop potential terror plots?

Surely the fact that there have been no planes destroyed and there are 18 people in police custody prove that the current laws are quite capable of dealing with terror plots.
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:14 PM
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16. There you go using logic!
Can't have any of that, now! Off to Gitmo with ya!

:sarcasm:

Todd in Beerbratistan
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:54 PM
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11. "There ought to be limits to freedom"
The difference between Blair and Bush**? Blair speaks coherent English.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:57 PM
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12. water's dangerous! we have to put everyone in plastic bags. only safe way
to protect 'em! alright, everyone into their human-sized ziplocks!
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:35 PM
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14. If we take away everyone's freedom
the terrorists won't have any freedom either, so we'll have won!

Or maybe the terrorists have won...?

Oh, I dunno...

:shrug:
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:19 PM
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17. perspective on terrorism: 56,000 killed on highways in US every year
is anyone going to ban automobiles??? They kill a far larger number of people than all the "terrorists" together. No. So to the hosers that want to take away civil rights: stuff it.
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