BBC: Jailed anti-Chavez leader escapes

Full article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4789431.stm

Guess they'll have to shoot him (the escaped fugitive) now.

Toodles!

Seems like you take glee in them shooting dissidents. :wtf:

You make it sound like he was jailed as he wrote nasty letters to the editor about Chavez...he was an instrumental player in the April 2002 coup attempt against Chavez and in the 2002/2003 oil industry shutdown, amongst other things.

...after having them tortured in front of their families.

He certainly doesn't have the interest of the working class in mind--the class he claims to represent. He, and all the other coup plotters and abetters, should have been more persistently prosecuted for their treason.

You know someone helped him get out. I bet they have American accents.

You know what I mean, Vern?

*cough*

on his political prisoners.

He's pure scum. A couple of years ago, when the entire world had chosen to hold protests of our right-wing war on Iraq, including throughout the United States, the Miami right-wing Cuban idiot faction combined with the Venezuelan expatriots to stage their own anti-Chavez Parade, and invited Carlos Ortega and the Fedecamaras President Carlos Fernandez to act as guests of honor.

Fools, clowns, deviants!



Former opposition leaders Carlos Fernandez, at center with raised
thumb, and Carlos Ortega, in a white Venezuela T-shirt, move to
the front of the protest march as it heads east on Calle Ocho, Miami.
The two men helped lead a national strike in their homeland.
South Florida Sun-Sentinel



Carlos Fernandez and Carlos Ortega, 2/11/02

Here's a very short summary:

U.S. Bankrolled Coup Backers
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La otra historia de los Estados Unidos

Over the last year, the U.S. government’s National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a nonprofit agency created and financed by Congress, quadrupled its assistance to Venezuelan groups opposing left populist President Hugo Chávez Frías, for a total of more than $877,000. One of the main recipients was the American Center for International Labor Solidarity, the international arm of the main U.S. labor federation, the AFL-CIO. The NED gave the center $154,377 to assist the main Venezuelan labor federation, the Venezuelan Workers Confederation (CTV). CTV President Carlos Ortega joined with Chamber of Commerce Federation (Fedecámaras) President Pedro Carmona Estanga in calling a general strike that preceded an April 11–13 coup that briefly put Carmona in power as interim president.

The NED also funded two agencies linked to the main U.S. political parties for activities in Venezuela. It gave the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs $210,500 to promote the accountability of local governments; the International Republican Institute (IRI) received $339,998 for political party building. On April 12, when it appeared the coup would succeed, IRI President George Folsom described it as “the Venezuelan people” rising up “to defend democracy in their country.” (New York Times 4/25/02)

The British weekly Observer reports that the coup “was closely tied to senior officials in the U.S. government” with “long histories in the `dirty wars’ of the 1980s, and links to death squads working in Central America at that time.” “Officials at the Organization of American States and other diplomatic sources” told the Observer “that the U.S. administration was not only aware the coup was about to take place, but had sanctioned it, presuming it to be destined for success.” The sources pointed to Elliott Abrams, assistant secretary of state in the 1980s, as someone “who gave a nod to the attempted Venezuelan coup.” Abrams now directs the National Security Council (NSC) Office for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operations. (Observer 4/21/02)
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Opposition to Chavez is 'deviancy'? I think those who want to restore democracy, and overthrow the constituion-breaker Chavez are patriots, not deviants.

during the coup, and in the strikes designed to wreck the Venezuelan economy are complete idiots, scum, and criminals.

Chavez did not "break" the Constitution. If you will stir yourself long enough to remember, it was Pedro Carmona, the little bastard who attempted to be the President the easy way who suspended the constitution, dismissed the Supreme Court, and their legislative body, etc., etc., etc.

If your misleading charges get new DU'ers busy looking up more information on Venezuela, it will be a victory for the truth.
They'll see right through you.

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:eEUdQ0oK_9kJ:www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php%3Fnewsno%3D1997+site:venezuelanalysis.com+survey&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari

Oh, and by the way, there's a great scene in this movie of Chavez literally restoring the constitution:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144

So well worth the time.

And many people died because of him.

...House right now won't stand for the indignity of a failed coup. Just their style to try do it again with the exact same people.

PB

Here is the link. This is the entire movie. It was originally a documentary by an Irish film crew but while they were filming Chavez was overthrown. The film that resulted is an intimate, insider's view, of exactly what happened during those fateful days a few years ago when South America held its breath and wondered if another Democracy could be overthrown by the United States.

  This is an excellent documentary.

PB

...Let's see what happens. Some possibilitites:

1. Ortega really got away. That would definately indicate inside help from elements of the military opposed to Chavez. What then? A possible coup attempt in the offing? A purge of the military to remove anti-Chavez factions?

2. Ortega is recaptured. A double-double cross designed to root out potential coup plotters?

3. Ortega is "shot while escaping". Get rid of him now before anti-Chavez folks can use him as a rallying symbol either combined with conjecture 2 or as a standalone plan?

Along with the other escaped conspirators.

They'll be sipping con leche at the Versailles on SW 8th st in Miami with Orlando Bosch any minute now.

people in that book who the US wanted to get out of jail (one in Nicaragua and one in Cuba), and they had the same thing in common...