Sen. Allen's Remarks Spark Ire

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Democrat James Webb's Senate campaign accused Sen. George Allen (R) of making demeaning comments Friday to a 20-year-old Webb volunteer of Indian descent.

S.R. Sidarth, a senior at the University of Virginia, had been trailing Allen with a video camera to document his travels and speeches for the Webb campaign. During a campaign speech Friday in Breaks, Virginia, near the Kentucky border, Allen singled out Sidarth and called him a word that sounded like "Macaca."

"This fellow here over here with the yellow shirt, Macaca, or whatever his name is. He's with my opponent. He's following us around everywhere. And it's just great. We're going to places all over Virginia, and he's having it on film and its great to have you here and you show it to your opponent because he's never been there and probably will never come."

After telling the crowd that Webb was raising money in California with a "bunch of Hollywood movie moguls," Allen again referenced Sidarth, who was born and raised in Fairfax County. "Lets give a welcome to Macaca, here. Welcome to America and the real world of Virginia," said Allen, who then began talking about the "war on terror."

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/14/AR2006081400589_pf.html

you know he'll be the nominee in '08.

His father was a dumb-ass football coach he's even dumber.

but his old man was a great coach...at least in the early days.

Here's more:

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Kristian Denny Todd, a Webb spokeswoman, said the campaign wants to know what Allen meant by Macaca.

"We would like Senator Allen to tell us exactly what he means by the comment," Todd said. Depending on how you spell it, the name Allen gave Sidarth means different things.

If spelled M-a-c-a-c-a, the term refers to a species of monkeys in the Eastern Hemisphere. "Is he saying Sidarth is a monkey?" Todd asked. The word M-a-k-a-k-a refers to a town in South Africa.

Todd accused Wadhams of "reaching" for an explanation for Allen's comments. "The kid has a name. This is trying to demean him, to minimize him as a person," Todd said.

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Even the horse is saying, "What a putz."

where I reside. Can't wait to cast my vote for Webb in Nov.

I don't know how VA is still managing to hold together as a state with that asshat in the Senate. You guys hang in there though because what doesn't kill you has to make you stronger especially in this case.

He doesn't get a lot of press coverage, so many aren't yet aware that he's almost as stupid as Bubble Boy.

Tweety had him on and asked him about his high school efforts to start a race war.
Felix said it was just a youthful prank.

the graffiti incident - means the corporate whores and inside the beltway types are paying attention to Allen's Achilles heel.

The New Republic article back in April clearly stated that 5 classmates and a former school administrator all agreed that the graffiti was racist. I'll bet Tweety accepted Allen's non-answer and moved on in the best corporate whore tradition.

Thanks for the encouraging words :hug:

as "Asshat, Neo-con, Grover Norquidst felating, drown the government in the bath-tub" Governors. Thankfully, Governor Warner and now Governor Kaine have turned the place around.

All Allen and Gilmore did was parrot, over, and over, and over, and over, and over again; "tax and spend liberal-awwwwk, tax and spend liberal-awwwk, tax and spend liberal-awwwk" and the people of VA fell for it hook, line and sinker.

Gilmore's entire fucking campaign was "No Car Tax". That's it! For the individual savings of about $25, VA damn near lost it's Class A bond rating.

Fucking Punch-line Republicans. I fucking hate them

either he was calling him a monkey or he was calling him shit (caca is shit in spanish, I believe... either way, he should never be allowed to live it down.

Tunisian and he not only speaks French but North African French. Can't claim he didn't know what he was saying.

and act like he does in close company. I'll bet his handlers are letting him have it.

He knows his presidential hopes have been dashed because of his stars & bars fetish, so I guess he doesn't care anymore how he sounds.

He likes Confederate flags. There's a picture of him in high school with a fricking Confederate flag on his lapel, when he was an overprivileged white boy in Orange County CA.

suburb 20 minutes south of LAX. He also had confederate flag stickers on his car and is best remembered for spraying the school with racist graffiti.

As an adult he kept a noose in his office, a Confederate flag on the wall of his home, and he's even named his 3 kids for his Confederate heroes. His only son, Forrest, is named for Gen. Nathan Forrest, early KKK Grand Wizard.

This verbal slip up provides a great opening for Webb if he chooses to take advantage of it. Allen has so many racial skeletons rattling around in his closet. It's time to let them out in a big way.

in a tread that I created. I didn't see this one.

"Welcome to America." Priceless. What a complete ass.

This'll go over great with the Northern Virginia Information Technology Coalition people.

Let's make sure they hear about this.:evilgrin:

Some of the richer Indians are greedy as hell repukes who would sell their own mother for a buck. Oh and in case someone flips out, my parents are Indian.

George Allen is quite obviously a racist piece of shit. This, along with his history of racism (starting at an early age), obsession over the confederate flag, a noose in his senate office (a noose for God's sake?), and other demeaning statements made against blacks really lead me to believe he's a fuckin white supremecist.

not an Indian if that is true.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/2007politicalcalendars.htm

here's the video. Allen is such an asshat it's unbelievable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G7gq7GQ71c

What a condescending dick! Obviously if your skin is dark and you're not African American then you can't be anything but a furrner. It's clear he doesn't know the guy's name and isn't misspeaking by accident. If he took the time to ask someone on his staff there's no way the kid's real name could be confused with "Macaca." Most likely, having never heard that name before, he'd forget it anyway. This seems to be his attempt to pin a foreign sounding moniker on the kid to let everyone know he wasn't their kind (NOKD: Not our kind, dear). I'm surprised he didn't call him Osamama or something evoking terrorism.
I am ashamed that he is my Senator for many reasons and this is now added to the list.



It's Howdy Doody time...

from the blog "Richmond Democrat"

Here's the thing, "Macaca" or "Macaque" is the French-Tunisian equivilent of the N-word. Coincidentally, Allen's mother is French-Tunisian. Oops.

http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2006/08/george-allen-self-destructs-on-video.html#links

while this might not get him booted from the his seat in the senate....

there is no way he could ever run a national campaign.

thanks to mr allen for eliminating himself from '08.

scumbag.

Thought we'd dig down to the racist roots, after all.

What a putz.

http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.com/frameshop/2006/08/frameshop_macac.html#more

</snip> (Edited by Cooley - I hate that word...:thumbsdown:)
What I hope to show in these results are instances where the word 'macaca' or 'macaque' are being used as an offensive racial slur on par with other more familiar racial slurs. This research is intended to clarify what exactly happened in the outburst by George Allen using sources commonly available to anyone with a computer.

Google Search: ni***r+macaque

Source: Vanguard News Network Forum
Quote: "I watched the press conference they had when they caught the rampaging macaque. Ni**y the Pinhead here put on a hilarious performance: "I's only bin shairf fo' a few munts..." it mumbled over & over, desperate to pass dat ol' buck. "I's bin foccusin' on securetee in de jail, but now I be foccussin' on de coathouse, know whum sayin'?"

It's all part of the forced-at-fed-gunpoint jewfarce of pretending that ni***rs have any bidness leading anything more complex than tribal grub-hunting expeditions."

Farther down in the same thread, another reader quoted the section with 'macaque,' made it bold face and replied as follows:

Source: Vanguard News Network Forum
Quote: "I watched the press conference they had when they caught the rampaging macaque. ...goddamn rapin, lootin', murderin', rampaging ni***rs, goddamn them all...

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CONCLUSION
The term 'macaque'--also pronounced 'mukakkah'--is a commonly used racial slur on par with the word 'ni***r' in the united states.

In Europe, the word 'macaque' is largely a racial slur used to insult people of North African descent. It is roughly synonomous with 'dirty arab.'

Most of the results that came back in these searches took me to well known white supremacy websites--and to posts from the past two or three years. So this is a phrase that is still in use.

Also returned where hundreds of 'ethnic slur' dictionaries online, all of which list this term as a 'Belgian' racial slur.
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He gets my nomination as Conservative Idiot of the Week on DU.

:evilgrin:

as Monty Python says, "I can't think of anything worse than to call them the Belgians."

PB

THIS WAS A CALCULATED STATEMENT. Two so conveniently conflating coincidences? I don't think so. They quite conspicuously dovetail together.

Look, I've been told far too many times by people here and elsewhere that we can't just assume it was intentional, or they knew it was going to happen, or they knew what was going on, it's not ther President's fault per se (I get that one at work), etc., and etc.....

Some people are willing to give this group the benefit of the doubt 'because it's the right thing to do' or 'because they're only human'. I call bullshit on that mentality. It makes no sense at this point, with so many lies and deliberate misactions or inactions on their part behind them, to assume that anything that happens around them isn't something they're completely aware of.

They are aware of the 'coincidences'. This was minor- but the Iraq war is not, and it's the same 'can't prove they're lying so don't say anything mean' mentality, then and now. I think, in light of everything that has come from this party in the last six years, we can very confidently state that if there is even the slightest jot of a stench of impropriety in any way way, we can assume the worst of the situation because these people are proven bigots, liars, and thieves.

I'm not particularly willing to give any republican the benefit of the doubt anymore (we, for example, have the possibility in MI of a DeVos in office here in MI, which would be a complete disaster; the perfect republican, he who inherited a fortune and is using it to make himself rich). This slur- and it oh so very much was a slur- was intentional as all hell, and Sen. Allen should be needing to look for another job soon- if all his constituents aren't either ignorant of the truth*, or racist like him.

* Probable amenest most of the American population, at least insofar as the facts of this story are concerned. And how much do you think it'll be discussed in the national media?

Thought so.

The ass will probably be elected Senator again, too... damn!

and viewing the video it sure looks very intentional. He's really scum along with being a dim lightbulb.

Will people really fall for this stupid, racist yokel?

I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls it off again.

Has he done anything as blatant as this?

This is a lot more serious than wearing a confederate flag on your lapel as a high school senior - for that, he can at least use the typical Republican excuse of a youthful indiscretion.

as a teenager he spraypainted racist graffiti on the walls of Palos Verdes HS to stir up racial animosity toward a rival school. The incident was recounted in The New Republic this April and corroborated by 5 classmates and a school administrator.

Youthful indiscretion is one thing. Long history of racism is something else.

Have a little compassion............on second though, screw him.

Just sent this to the executive producer at the TV station I work for...can't wait to see if this makes air. She can't stand Allen, but the guy who would report on it likes him. Will be an interesting battle to see who wins.

PB

Damn! Of ALL the days for YouTube to go down for "maintenance"...they picked TODAY?!? The day that a whole lot of people are going online to check out the video for themselves? The day that the Virginia media is perking up its ears and wanting to air the video?!? So my station will probably skip doing a story on it because the video isn't currently available on YouTube....probably other stations will forget about it too.

/adjusts tinfoil hat :tinfoilhat:

has anyone sent the info to Keith yet?

with a nomination for WPIW. Keep sending votes to Keith.

I noticed that the WaPo article did not mention the evidence (reported on DU) that Felix Jr. knew what "macaque/macaca" meant when he spoke it, which to me is the most damning part of the story. I hope KO will check it out.

will be covering this story tonight. It's on his "Tonight on Countdown" e-mail.

I wrote a letter to Mr. Allen's campaign urging him to apologize. You can too. heres the link George Allen

An insincere apology is worse than no apology at all.

I sent my comments via that link this morning. I just heard on NPR his office is getting lots of negative feedback about his remarks. Keep it up!

YouTube is down at the moment.
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some republicans just can't escape their old habits,racist pig.

This bigotted peckerhead is being spoken of as one of the potential candidates for the repug presidential post in 2008. Yup...he'd fit right in with the dipshits in the WH today.

I think he was making sure his constituents knew that he would never have someone who looked like this kid (not white) on his staff. He wanted to make sure they knew that, so he not only pointed out that the kid was working for Webb, but insulted him at the same time - on purpose.

Pandering to the base takes on a whole new meaning.

Of course Bill -I-torture-and-kill-kittens Frist is pretty good too just in terms of controversy :eyes:

Used to be head of my high school's It's Academic team i believe-- always would come back to help out with the tournaments we hosted.

themselves to win an election. How can a Jesus freak pander to their so-called base with rascism and bigotry? Answer: That ain't no Jesus freak that's a Devil freak.

H. Morgan Griffith and tell him he doesn't even know he is a racist. I work with people like this all the time and hate it.

I pulled his email address from google. Drop him a line, but be polite and tell him that he must think most Virginians are racists by his comments in the Post.

Del_Griffith@house.state.va.us

I wanted to tell them that this is par for the course with George Allen. He has a long history of racism. And of course, he is getting off the hook yet again, by dismissing this as just a made up nick name. You can imagine the name he might have made up if Sidarth had been black. The name was bad enough, but the tone he used was so condescending to wards the young man.

Trouble is they wanted the viewer input in video format.
WRC, NBC4.com.


I think Allen misspoke a little when he told Sidarth, "its great to have you here and you show it to your opponent because he's never been there and probably will never come."
I don't think Jim Webb is Siddarth's opponent, he's Allen's.
Allen must be lost. It seems he had a little problem realizing he was "here" and not "there".

edited for clarity.

Tonight, Washington DC broadcast TV stations are running this story (showing the video of Allen making his racist remarks) very near the top of their evening newscasts. Great job, Felix!

and was referring to Sidarth in that manner, not knowing Allen had no idea what it meant and assumed that was his name. He then makes the reference during the speech, horrifying the staffer who had no idea his boss didn't know he was using a racial slur, and hence the blow-up. It just makes no sense for a Senator to knowlingly use a racial slur at someone in a public setting who he knows is videotaping every word he's saying. At some point this staffer's name will come out and he/she will get thrown under the bus, as the current explanations, confusing the name with mohawk, don't hold water.

The post above says Allen's mother was from Tunisia and it is equilivant to the "N" word in Tunisian. Another said it means something like "Dirty Arab" in Belgian.

Don't know, just repeating what I read.

This is just the latest in a long string of such incidents involving George Allen. In both high school and college, Allen was known to proudly display the Confederate flag in his home and on his vehicle. This is especially odd when you consider that Allen, a native of California, didn't even live in a formerly Confederate state until he was an undergraduate. As a young attorney, he kept a "decorative" noose hanging from a ficus tree in his office. He claimed that it was there to emphasize his strong support of so-called "law and order," but anyone familiar with lynching and its horrific role in American history knows better. Later on, while serving as Virginia's governor, Allen proclaimed Confederate History Month and referred to the Civil War as a "struggle for independence and sovereign rights" with no mention of slavery. And now he brazenly insults a young Indian-American man by calling him a monkey in front of a crowd. Pathetic and disgusting.

The only good part about living in this asshole's state is that I get to vote against him.

...and said Youtube has already received 40000 hits to see this video

Shows he knew just what he was doing/saying.

...he knew what he was saying...

racist pig.

Republicans...what pathetic animals.

(NFL fans will remember this) I think of the former Washington Redskins coach George Allen (not sure if there's a relation to the senator) leading a cheer for his victorious team in the locker room....

The George Allen senator is another in a long line of far-right clowns, & I hope Virgina will give him the boot in November...

George Allen's father. Allen would be greeting shoppers at Wal Mart if not for his famous dad.

Welcome to DU!

Allen literally sounded drunk on his butt - since I didn't see the video, was someone holding him up to the podium?

And could investigation into his background for DUI's or other drunken incidents prove fruitful in getting this guy out of office?

The title is now:

Allen Quip Provokes Outrage, Apology

and starts by mentioning the apology.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/14/AR2006081400589_pf.html

off-the-cuff joking remark not meant to be taken too seriously. Nice to see the whores working hard for their repuke masters.

Another interesting tidbit in this article. The writer mentions the Confederate flag pin Allen wore in his HS yearbook photo, but not the fact that he did not attend HS is Virginia or anywhere in the south. Allen's high school was Palos Verdes HS in California, where he grew up. He didn't move to Virginia until after he completed his freshman year at UCLA in 1971. He has never been asked to explain why a privileged kid who grew up in California was so attracted to the Confederacy that he literally wore it on his lapel and on the bumper stickers on his car. Might it have tied in with the racist graffiti he sprayed on the high school walls? So many questions, so little info.

I hope Jim Webb understands who and what he's up against. If he intended to run an impersonal campaign on the issues, he can forget about it. Allen just handed him a huge gift and the opportunity to go after him on matters of race - a treasure trove just waiting to be cracked open.

I grew in Georgia, and only recall two kids who openly displayed the Confederate flag on his person or car (minus the blue part that was on the state flag flying outside of the school, of course).

It was a racist slam, not a "quip." OMG.

Damn, I miss Katharine Graham...

Allen is shouting and baiting and looks like the total ass he is.

I am deeply offended. I have forwarded this video clip to Indian democratic and republican organizations in US.

It is very clear that Allen was trying to make the Indian guy uncomfortable in an all-white crowd. In the guy's own words:

"I think he was doing it because he could, and I was the only person of color there, and it was useful for him in inciting his audience," said Sidarth...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/14/AR2006081400589_pf.html

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/15/allen.volunteer.ap/index.html

I bet Allen is seriously sweating right about now. His Presidential ambitions are in serious jeopardy as soon as this hits CNN and MSNBC tonight.

"Welcome to America and the real world of Virginia." What does that say about Allen's attitude toward the rest of the world? Anything outside of America isn't the "real world?" And this clown has presidential aspirations?

So much goes on day to day, this incident could be forgotten by the time of a 2008 presidential race; it needs to be remembered!

to check).

I believe Northern Va. has a large south Asian population who might not take too kindly to this slur.