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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:11 PM
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Former US president slaps down 'subservient' Blair
LONDON (AFP) - Former US president Jimmy Carter lashed out at British Prime Minister Tony Blair for being "so compliant and subservient" to the Bush administration in Washington.

"I have been surprised and extremely disappointed with Tony Blair's behaviour," Carter told the Sunday Telegraph newspaper as he promoted his new book "Faith and Freedom."

"I think that, more than any other person in the world, the prime minister could have had a moderating influence on Washington, and he has not," said the 81-year-old former head of state.

"It's a shameful and pitiful state of affairs, and I hold your British prime minister to be substantially responsible for being so compliant and subservient."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060827/ts_alt_afp/britainuspolitics_060827004553
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txb Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:14 PM
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1. Big UPs to Jimmy for speaking the truth.....
...and the fact that Tony is allegedly Labour -- really stinks.

Great quote from the former President, lets see if anyone notices.

London? Calling?
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:30 PM
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45. 81 years old and not running for anything
Go Jimmy!
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:14 PM
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2. Probably our most Honest President , A True Humanitarian.
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eccles12 Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 10:36 PM
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21. Why "probably?" For sure he is. n/t
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:16 PM
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3. I hope Jimmy lives to @150 so he can continue to call the
bullshit when he sees it.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:17 PM
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4. Don't spose Jimmy could come and be Prime Minister for awhile?
:patriot:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:20 PM
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5. Stop speaking the truth, Jimmy! Let us remain in our collective stupor!
Several Labourites have already defected to the Liberal Democrats out of sheer disgust with Blair's complicity with war crimes in Lebanon.

PM flies home to discontent

Press Association

Saturday August 26, 2006 2:13 AM

Some 37 Labour Party members in Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett's constituency of Derby South lashed out as they quit for the Liberal Democrats.

The defectors, predominantly Muslims of Pakistani origin, included Mohammed Rawail Peeno, a Labour Party ward chairman, and Masood Akhta, an ex-city and county councillor.

Mr Peeno said: "We could not remain in the Labour Party after their mishandling of the Lebanon crisis. When Margaret Beckett refused to back a ceasefire and instead sided with George Bush, it was the breaking point for us.

"New Labour have abandoned the beliefs that led me and thousands of others to join Labour in the first place."

Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell called the defections "significant". He added: "The Government's position on the Middle East and Iraq shows just how out of touch it is with many in its party and the majority of the general public."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6038749,00.html?gusrc=ticker-103704
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:28 PM
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6. Maybe the wiretapping sh!ts are blackmailing the Poodle ...

We saw the FIB do this for decades under J Edgar, and Nixon happily incorporated it into his bag of tricks. Much of the team today comprises former Nixonites and CIA-thugs from the reign of Bush I. It seems likely that the Publicans tried to blackmail the President during the Clinton years, and Tripp's illegal recording played a major role. We know that phone intercepts began early in the reign of Bush II and that diplomatic traffic was not excluded.

What else could account for Tony's incredible spinelessness?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:33 PM
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7. So what are the U.S. politician's and media's excuse?
In a word.....pathetic.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:01 PM
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10. My thought exactly, our country voted the Nummie in Twice!!
and kept Congress in their control. Ugh
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:45 PM
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19. Not even once
All is illusion, carefully protected by activist judges who set up an imperial presidency.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:52 PM
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8. This is a stunning statement- a former U.S. president in essence
lamenting that a foreign head of state supported OUR current president.

I still don't know myself how Blair could align with someone so inferior to him intellectually.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:07 PM
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13. Blair is even more subservient to Bush than the Iraqi puppets
Name ONE significant issue where Blair disagreed with Bush.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:09 PM
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14. Global warming, perhaps.
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 07:52 AM
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35. Yes, and remember what happened to London
when the poodle had to cheek to attend a conference on global warming there.

... It was a global warning.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 06:01 PM
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52. that should have been enough of a clue for Blair ...
He was probably hoping to be the big hero, bringing Bush into the fold on global warming ... just taking it for granted that Bush would be willing -- nay, eager! -- to reciprocate for all of Blair's support on the Iraq issue.

Bush must have been laughing with glee, as he watched Tony's face fall after being rebuffed!

I'd have thought that Blair would have smartened up and started distancing himself, since it was quite clear that Blair's risking his political future -- to say nothing of all those British soldiers maimed or killed -- would not result in Bush making the tiniest token gesture.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:27 AM
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33. Blair = Puppet like Karzai ( The mayor of Kabul)
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Biernuts Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 09:10 PM
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48. Taxes, Labor Unions, Government Provided Health Care (single payer
construct), etc, etc. In short, just about everything but security policy.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:56 PM
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9. Carter is hated by Phony "christians" because he's a real one.
He was probably in most ways the most decent human ever to be our President. It's a goddamned shame he's so vilified by the people who pretend to adhere to his own values. They're the filthiest hypocrites on the planet. :grr:

And a :hug: to Jimmy

I met him briefly when he dropped in Muskogee, OK campaigning. The only president I've ever even
seen in person.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:04 PM
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11. Jimmy is a saint
who is much loved and admired throughout the world.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:25 PM
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17. Yes, he is. But the awful irony is that Americans are not that smart
in far too many cases.

Our own country is infested with a significant portion of people who hate him for being a peacemaker
(as much as he was able to be) and hate Clinton for some of the same reasons.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 02:44 AM
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27. CARTER for PREZ in '08 !
why not?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 10:48 AM
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39. He's eligible for another term!
Then again, so is Pappy Bush.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 02:52 AM
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28. Agreed and Well Said.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 01:12 PM
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50. when a true born-again meets the PR Snowjob born-again Rovian PotUS
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:06 PM
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12. go Jimmy go.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:18 PM
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15. You Go, Jimmy! Slap that Servant of Bush.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:25 PM
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16. At least we have one head state, former or
Edited on Sat Aug-26-06 09:26 PM by zidzi
not, speaking out against the poodle blair.

How long have have Britons noticed tony's behavior? From the very beginning..but did that stop him? NO!
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:27 PM
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18. Recommended: #12
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:46 PM
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20. Great, but what we need is a Repub ex-prez to speak up about Bush2
And since Bush1 isn't going to do it, that means it's up to Ford.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 10:58 PM
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22. WTG JC



Tell it like it is.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 11:03 PM
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23. Refreshing as hell. Loud, long cheers for Jimmy Carter.
And Blair's butt was a butt in need of being kicked.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 11:12 PM
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24. Hah! I knew it was Jimmy!
Keep up the good work.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 11:19 PM
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25. SMACK
DOWN. :D
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 02:43 AM
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26. he gave into bush's THREATS - they need to be made public
from what I've heard he basicly threatened to completely cut off the country from US anything.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 04:35 AM
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29. The hard truth here....
excellent that Jimmy is speaking it!

:kick:

DemEx
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:21 AM
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30. TBH Tony B. Liar is actually Rupert Murdoch's Puppet
He made a deal with the devil to get backing from a significant part of the UK media and the support for Bush is part of the payment.

Still Carter is absolutely correct
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termo Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:36 AM
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31. Vassal
that is the difference between vassal and ally.
since most of the UK foreign policy is decided in DC that makes UK a good vassal and a poor ally.
:hurts:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:23 AM
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32. The "Singing Cowboy's Poodle"
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 07:11 AM
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34. Tony doesn't care, he's got a plum position awaiting with
Carlyle Group or some other world-raping ogranization.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 09:19 AM
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36. Good for Carter!!!
And maybe that will finally make it clear that it's not anti-American to oppose Bush and those who poodle up to him.

I think most of the British voters have also been 'surprised and extremely disappointed with Blair's behaviour'. He was re-elected because the opposition in the form of Michael Howard et al were even worse, not because of his own merits.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 10:37 AM
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37. Its astounding to me how the Brits tolerate this worm. n/t
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 10:46 AM
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38. Jimmy always did tell the truth
The American public preferred Ronnie's fantasy land.

And it continues to this day with Dubya's.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 12:05 PM
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40. blair is a wimpy poodle
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 12:07 PM
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41. Jimmy Carter's getting spunky in his old age! Right on!
I can't believe I once held a favorable opinion of Tony Blair...
:kick:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 01:19 PM
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42. A whole lot of Miss Lillian shining through
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 02:25 PM
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43. Tony deserves major blame for being a "co-dependent"
His lack of conscience needs to be examined.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 02:39 PM
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44. "It's a shameful and pitiful state of affairs"...the Truth. Amen n/t
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:56 PM
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46. yes, I love Jimmy Carter!!!!
Tony Blair is just another pawn on Cheney's chess board. being a populist, southern Democrat has nothing to do with starting wars, kissing the butts of corporations, or supporting taxcuts when deficits are high. Its bringing morality to democracy, fighting against social darwinism, and speaking out when cowards are called moderate! :yourock:
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 08:14 PM
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47. Jimmy Carter Rocks! YOOOOHOOOO!!!!!
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 06:31 AM
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49. Re-elect JC in 2008, ready, rested and the most qualified.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 01:39 PM
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51. wish he could have a 2nd try at the presidency
but since he is sane and loving and a Christian he would be too radical for this country
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