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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 11:18 PM
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The Man Who Said Too Much [Armitage responsible for Plame leak]
originally posted here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1990900

pardon my repost, but i feel this is very important.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14533384/site/newsweek/

Sept. 4, 2006 issue - In the early morning of Oct. 1, 2003, Secretary of State Colin Powell received an urgent phone call from his No. 2 at the State Department. Richard Armitage was clearly agitated. As recounted in a new book, "Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War," Armitage had been at home reading the newspaper and had come across a column by journalist Robert Novak. Months earlier, Novak had caused a huge stir when he revealed that Valerie Plame, wife of Iraq-war critic Joseph Wilson, was a CIA officer. Ever since, Washington had been trying to find out who leaked the information to Novak. The columnist himself had kept quiet. But now, in a second column, Novak provided a tantalizing clue: his primary source, he wrote, was a "senior administration official" who was "not a partisan gunslinger." Armitage was shaken. After reading the column, he knew immediately who the leaker was. On the phone with Powell that morning, Armitage was "in deep distress," says a source directly familiar with the conversation who asked not to be identified because of legal sensitivities. "I'm sure he's talking about me." <more>
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 11:28 PM
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1. Definitely a LBN thread
Unless it's already been posted here (I don't think it has).
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 11:29 PM
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2. Red Alert, DefCon 2, A-P-friggin'-B!!
This is

HUGE.

No "hugh" jokes, please.

Fitzgerald's investigation may have just opened a new front here.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 11:30 PM
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3. hot topic tonight
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 11:35 PM
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4. Not that this excuses shopping the name around
Even if they'll never nail a soul for it, just because Armitage (assuming this is correct) made a massive, massive mistake, that did not make it legal for Rove and Libby to shop the information around prior to formal declassification. To say the least. And I'll keep it at the least until I see more than vapors.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 08:17 AM
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7. more like miasma
vapors.????
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 12:12 AM
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5. After reading the column, he knew immediately who the leaker was?
What sort of hack journalist writes this sort of soap-opera plot, and what sort of hack editor publishes it?

"Omigosh! I just learned from the newspaper that I am the leaker! I'm shocked! I really had no idea!"

:puke:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 02:02 AM
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6. This has some major holes in it.
How can Armitage have had a covert career himself, AND also has the reputation of having a BIG mouth? Why pick a guy who, allegedly, has a big mouth for covert activity? I can think of two possible answers. First, that Armitage REALLY has a big mouth and someone leaked information to Armitage knowing that he would leak it eventually to the necessary parties; or second, that Armitage is the next Oliver North and he's willing to take a hit for the team.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 08:37 AM
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10. maybe Ollie coached him?
http://www.fpif.org/republicanrule/officials_body.html

Earlier, as Assistant Secretary of Defense, Armitage had been involved in the Iran-Contra scandal of the late 1980s. According to independent counsel Lawrence Walsh, the evidence was short of airtight, but Armitage had been party to the meetings with General Richard Secord and Oliver North--activities Armitage denied.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 08:48 AM
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11. I've seen this many times on a local level and wondered why this passes
for an accepted reason, but they get away with it time and time again. On a local level, when I would finally find something that I could pin on someone, I would confront them with it only to watch them go into Gomer mode. Gomer mode is sort of like when a dog rolls over and shows his soft underbelly. They play a submissive role, and damn it, it always works. Well, it worked on me primarily because I had no where else to go to turn the son of a bitch in. But the big question is, why is Fitz giving him a free pass? Unless the person who spilled it to Armitage was another anti-neocon "moderate" like Powell?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 11:29 AM
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15. somewhere IIRC Armitage was a key propagandist for the
Edited on Sun Aug-27-06 11:45 AM by UpInArms
RayGun regime - can't find that link now, but when I do, I'll post it.

this isn't the link I remember - but it may have to do:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Iran_Contra_Israel_CA.html

excerpt:

The campaign for world economic and political domination gathered momentum during the final years of the Cold War, including the decade-long Iran-lraq War of the 1980s (in which the United States sold arms to both sides) and the "clandestine" wars against Nicaragua's Sandinista Government and the revolutionary movements in El Salvador, Guatemala Angola, South Africa and elsewhere. What became known as the IranContra scandal-clandestine U.S. arms sales to Iran, facilitated by Israeli intelligence guidance, with the huge profits used to fund the terrorist war of the contras against the revolutionary government of Nicaragua-was a major part of these operations. Both ends of the operation were ostensibly prohibited by U.S. Iaw and the secret sales to Iraq were not even part of the publicly known equation.
The psychological operations, or "psyops" apparatus, institutionalized today, which have virtually eliminated public media debate while severely damaging civil and constitutional rights, began in earnest during the Reagan and Bush I administrations. And the forces shaping administration policies and consequently government propaganda, include familiar faces from those years: Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Richard Armitage, Eliot Abrams and Michael Ledeen, among many others.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 10:26 AM
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13. I think this stinks to high heaven. Armitage's history and his portrait
here as a juicy gossiper just don't match. We're being conned again.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 02:24 PM
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17. Armitage is taking the hit for Cheney...
There is soo much s*** raining down on Cheney, this, in addition to Halliburton, War Crimes w/Rumsfeld,would certainly land them both in Gucci stripes. Cheney is trying to close any perceived cracks in the door that would open him up to investigations of conspiracy to commit High Crimes and Misdemeanors.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 04:06 PM
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18. Early retirment package for Armitage?
He must have figured that his job is done anyways because the PNAC stooges are about to lose power and his services will no longer be desired by the next crew. Might as well as make a strategy move, a la Risk.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 04:42 PM
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19. You mean RISK a la Ken Lay?
Dead Men Walking?

Watch, $$$ to OOO..Armitage takes the fall for #2, then suffers a fatal heart attack and voila, they're all playing poker at some 100 room swank (rooming house) hotel on a deserted island, waiting for their surgery to heal until the scandal blows over.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 07:25 AM
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25. No. "Risk," the game.
In the game, players will make a strategic move which may not make sense at the time, but may prove to be a good gamble and put them in a better vantage point -- all of it depending on what the other player does on the next play.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 12:42 PM
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28. Yes, I was being facetious...
mixing in a slip of levity.

:toast:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 08:20 AM
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8. Takes the blame away from the neocon inner circle...nt
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 12:07 PM
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16. Armitage signed PNAC letter to Clinton in 1998
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

January 26, 1998



The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC


Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

<snipping to signatures>

Elliott Abrams    Richard L. Armitage    William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 08:34 AM
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9. Armitage is a RayGun retread and Iran-Contra insider
Richard Armitage

During the Reagan years, Richard Lee Armitage served as assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs and was involved in illegal transfers of weapons to Iran and to the Contras. Iran-Contra is not Armitage’s only scandal, however. He was investigated by President Reagan’s Commission on Organized Crime in 1984 for connections with gambling, prostitution and the expansion of organized crime. As a result of his legally questionable past, Armitage was denied an appointment as assistant secretary of state in 1989.

Armitage’s indiscretions did not dissuade the Senate, however, which confirmed him as deputy secretary of state on March 23, 2001. In addition to his direct involvement in numerous scandals, Armitage was also on the board of DBT/ChoicePoint, the database technology company involved in the disenfranchisment of black voters in Florida in the 2000 election, and he is also a former board member of CACI International Inc., the military contracting firm involved in the Abu Ghraib prison scandals.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 04:47 PM
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20. I think it's fair to mention, Bush I was in charge at the end of Rayguns
presidency. BushI, Cheney and their Motley Crew are responsible for the PNAC Agreement, even though 41 and #2 names are conveniently absent from the signing.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 10:20 AM
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12. Novak reported on MTP today that it was not Armitage
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 10:56 AM
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14. Now THAT's funny!
And I love the idea of Isikoff having egg on his RW-enabler face!
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:17 PM
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23. No, Novak didn't say it was or wasn't Armitage. From MTP transcript:
"MR. NOVAK: I told Mr. Isikoff, the investigator—he’s a very good investigative reporter, by the way—but I told him that I do not identify my sources on any subject if they’re on a confidential basis until they identify themselves. I don’t say that somebody was or wasn’t. I’m going to say one thing, though, I haven’t said before. And that is that I believe that the time has way passed for my source to identify himself." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14452115/page/7/
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:56 PM
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24. well, at least we know it wasn't a woman.
:eyes:
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:05 PM
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21. Woodward, Woodward my dear Watson
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:09 AM
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26. I believe this
story is bullcrap to clear the White House.

Just my two cents.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:12 AM
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27. Another great day for Karl Rove
This mofo wakes up every day thanking his lucky stars that he is no longer facing federal prison. Today there's another sucker that will take the fall for him.
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