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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 04:44 PM
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2 NYC Marines die together in Iraq
NEW YORK - They were both middle class Irish Catholic kids, one from Brooklyn, one from Queens. Both were born with public service in their blood.

John McKenna, the grandson of a U.S. Marine, was a New York State Police trooper when he was called to
Iraq.

Michael Glover, nephew of a top-ranking New York fire chief who commanded men at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, had left law school to serve in a tribute to his friends who were killed in the terrorist attacks.

They died together Aug. 16 in Fallujah.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/ap_on_re_us/two_marines
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:20 PM
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1. Sigh.
Rest in peace soldiers.

(I thought we had "taken" Fallujah several times now?)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:25 PM
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2. instead Fallujah took them.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:29 PM
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5. With troops concentrated in Baghdad, casualties will mount in other areas
So tragic and so predictable. How many more will the public allow them to get away with?
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 07:02 PM
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6. How many more will the public allow them to get away with? - 58,000 ??
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That's the tally from Vietnam, - doesn't include the 100's of thousands of military wounded/crippled/stressed out -

or the Millions of Vietnamese that were slaughtered/wounded/displaced

PNACers have no conscience

Death of innocent humans is just "collateral damage"

(sigh)

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 07:30 PM
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7. Send in the 'coalition' and
"they" will come.....

7 facts you might not know about the Iraq War

By Michael Schwartz -- 08.21.06

snip-->

5. Outside Baghdad, Violence Arrives with the Occupation Army

The portrait of chaos across Iraq that our news generally offers us is a genuine half-truth. Certainly, Baghdad has been plunged into massive and worsening disarray as both the war against the Americans and the civil war have come to be concentrated there, and as the terrifying process of ethnic cleansing has hit neighborhood after neighborhood, and is now beginning to seep into the environs of the capital.

However, outside Baghdad (with the exception of the northern cities of Kirkuk and Mosul, where historic friction among Kurd, Sunni, and Turkman has created a different version of sectarian violence), Iraqi cities tend to be reasonably ethnically homogeneous and to have at least quasi-stable governments. The real violence often only arrives when the occupation military makes its periodic sweeps aimed at recapturing cities where it has lost all authority and even presence.

This deadly pattern of escalating violence is regularly triggered by those dreaded sweeps, involving brutal, destructive, and sometimes lethal home invasions aimed at capturing or killing suspected insurgents or their supporters. The insurgent response involves the emplacement of ever more sophisticated roadside bombs (known as IEDs) and sniper attacks, aimed at distracting or hampering the patrols. The ensuing firefights frequently involve the use of artillery, tanks, and air power in urban areas, demolishing homes and stores in a neighborhood, which only adds to the bitter resistance and increasing the support for the insurgency.

These mini-wars can last between a few hours and, in Falluja, Ramadi, or other "centers of resistance," a few weeks. They constitute the overwhelming preponderance of the fighting in Iraq. For any city, the results can be widespread death and devastation from which it can take months or years to recover. Yet these are still episodes punctuating a less violent, if increasingly more run-down normalcy. <--snip

More at link:
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=21254

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:48 PM
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3. "BRING EM ON" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE
They died for the Halliburton Stockholders and Coward Joementum Limpmann
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 01:15 PM
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8. but he will make some time btw vacations to hug the parents
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:28 PM
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4. I guess news like this is one of bush's "happy" moments.
There's no more powerful feeling than knowing that people are dying for you and your greed.

FUGWB.
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