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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 01:43 AM
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Yushchenko was poisoned with Russian, U.S. or U.K.-made dioxin
Yushchenko was poisoned with Russian, U.S. or U.K.-made dioxin
16:12 | 08/ 09/ 2006

KIEV, September 8 (RIA Novosti) - Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko was poisoned during his 2004 election campaign with dioxin made in Russia, the U.S. or Britain, Ukraine's prosecutor general said Friday.

"The Prosecutor General's Office conducted an additional examination of the quality of the dioxin discovered in the president's blood, and found that limited amounts of this substance were produced... in the U.S., Britain or Russia," Oleksandr Medvedko said.

He said prosecutors were in possession of samples both of Russian and U.S.-made dioxins and will test them.

Medvedko said investigators have established the precise time, venue and circumstances of the poisoning.
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http://en.rian.ru/world/20060908/53658931.html

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Ukraine traces dioxin used in poisoning
KIEV, Ukraine, Sept. 9 (UPI) -- Ukraine's prosecutor general says dioxin used to poison President Viktor Yushchenko before his election was from Russia, Britain or the United States.

Oleksandr Medvedko said his office has determined when and how Yushchenko was given the dioxin, the Novosti news agency reported.

"The only thing left is to prove who committed the crime. We are working on that jointly with the Security Service of Ukraine," he said.
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http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060909-013042-5681r

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 01:57 AM
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1. before and after
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 02:30 AM
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4. His before photo had that Christopher Hitchens effect.
Before the exploding cigar:

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 02:54 AM
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5. that first Hitchens pic has got to be way airbrushed
he has always looked like a drunken hate filled slob from what i remember.

but then again i think he use to be normal because he became a hateful war mongering jackass. i wasn't really aware of him in his earlier days.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 02:02 AM
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2. Taking odds.... 10 to 1, US/UK against Russia
Ladies and Gentlemen... place your bets...
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:20 AM
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6. Almost certainly Russia
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:30 AM
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7. He was the west's candidate, so it must have been Russia
The story at the time of the election was that he was probably poisoned from a soup he ate while dining with the head of the secret police, which was pro-Russia/anti-west.

But there's always the outside possiblity of a false-flag operation (he did get a lot of sympathy when the story came out), but who would risk their life like that for sympathy votes?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:39 AM
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8. He surely DID get a lot of sympathy! This event immediately cast
his oppenent in a horrid light, which would take him out of the picture with so many people, and it would seem inevitable he picked up TONS of votes simply because people were astonished and angry that someone would stoop low enough to do this.

I can't even remember how he was doing Before Poisoning, or how he would have done without all the U.S. taxpayers' dollars funneled into his campaign.

Wasn't his wife an employee of the State Department under the first Bush? I could swear I've read that.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:50 AM
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9. One possibility is that he was set up by the west, even though he was the
west's candidate.

If he were doing poorly in the polls, they could have poisoned him without his knowledge in order to get the sympathy vote.

That would be similar to the last Zimbabwean presidential election where the Tsvengerai (spelling?), the opposition candidate, was doing so poorly in the polls that his own British consulting firm set him up with a crudely edited and poorly scripted video of him supposedly plotting an assassination attempt. The plan, no doubt, was to have him imprisoned and executed in order to make the government look bad, but the government let him continue running and then tried him afterward, which resulted in acquittal because he was so obviously set up by his western advisers.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 10:07 AM
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10. A human life is so easy to sacrifice, if things go wrong, by groups
wanting to grab power when it provides instant mobilization of extreme emotion-laden conclusions and beliefs.
People never take time to look for the facts when they are caught up in wild emotional reaction.

It's a true time saver for sleazy, murderous, greedy right-wingers.

Thanks for the view of the candidate in Zimbabwe. I didn't know the whole story. Very interesting.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:36 AM
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11. Or Taiwan...
3-19 shooting incident

The 3-19 shooting incident was a possible assassination attempt on President Chen Shui-bian and Vice President Annette Lu while they were campaigning in Tainan on March 19, 2004, the day before the Republic of China (Taiwan) presidential election.

Their injuries were not life-threatening, and both Chen and Lu were released from Chi-Mei Hospital on the same day without losing consciousness or undergoing surgery. Nevertheless, the attack provoked shock and unease in Taiwan, where political violence of this kind is virtually unheard of in recent times. The incident is thought to have earned Chen and Lu sympathy votes, helping to win them the election on the next day by a mere 29,500 votes. In August 2005, the case was officially closed with all leads pointing to one single deceased suspect, Chen Yi-hsiung, but Chen's opponents have insisted on continuing the investigation.

Wikipedia



It might be instructive to note that Yushchenko is President, but his rival from the 2004 election Viktor Yanukovych became Prime Minister in this years' Parliamentary elections -- so the Ukrainian public, inspite of Yushchenko's Orange Revolution, tossed his party out.

I suspect Ukrainians could use a better quality of politicians...

Possible good signs as their Parliament has just open a new session:

Tymoshenko says Ukrainian government illegitimate

The leader of Ukraine's opposition bloc, Yulia Tymoshenko, said Monday the current government was illegitimate and called upon the president to dissolve parliament and announce new elections.

Yulia Tymoshenko, President Viktor Yushchenko's first prime minister and ally on the streets in the 2004 popular protests known as the "Orange Revolution," was the only leader of a major political movement who refused to sign in August a national unity agreement aiming to end the country's protracted political crisis.

After the approval of Viktor Yanukovych August 4 by the Ukrainian parliament to the post of prime minister, Tymoshenko said her bloc would form a strong opposition to the government and may establish a shadow Cabinet along European lines.

And Monday she said the government led by Viktor Yanukovych was illegitimate because the prime minister and the majority of Cabinet members should have given up their parliamentary seats August 25, according to the deadline established by the Constitution, but failed to do so.

Novosti



Yulia Tymoshenko -- former PM and possible future President in 2009 that was formerly alligned with Yushchenko and his Orange Revolution coalition

Pretty Good Analysis of the 2004/2006 elections courtesy of Ukrainian Observer
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:14 PM
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12. Amazing! How unexpected to learn the would-be assassin turned up dead!
Guess that's the end of THAT mystery!

Never heard this news, sorry to say. Am very glad to know about it now.

Thanks for the information. Very, very interesting.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 02:22 AM
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3. Look at that line-up of war criminals on the left side of the photo:
Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld. They waterboard, humiliate, disorient, starve, beat up, apply electrodes to testicles, drive mad with indefinite detention, murder, poison, pollute, bomb, destroy, rob, pillage, spread mayhem, bribe, bully, blackmail, spy, betray, and lie with every word they speak. What a line-up of disrepute!
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TheLastMohican Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:53 AM
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13. Who cares about Yuschenko?
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 04:53 AM by TheLastMohican
A discarded CIA card in a geopolitical fight against Russia. His wife - US citizen Chumachenko, who worked in the US State Department is making sure the guy tows the US line.
Guess what? Russia knows that too and acts accordingly.

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