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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:55 PM
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Doubts Increase About Strength of Iraq Premier (NYT)
By EDWARD WONG
Published: September 20, 2006

BAGHDAD, Sept. 19 — Senior Iraqi and American officials are beginning to question whether Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki has the political muscle and decisiveness to hold Iraq together as it hovers on the edge of a full civil war.

Four months into his tenure, Mr. Maliki has failed to take aggressive steps to end the country’s sectarian strife because they would alienate fundamentalist Shiite leaders inside his fractious government who have large followings and private armies, senior Iraqi politicians and Western officials say. He is also constrained by the need to woo militant Sunni Arabs connected to the insurgency.

Patience among Iraqis is wearing thin. Many complain that they have seen no improvement in security, the economy or basic services like electricity. Some Sunni Arab neighborhoods seem particularly deprived, fueling distrust of the Shiite-led government.

Concerns about the toughness of the new government seemed reflected in President Bush’s comments when he met Tuesday with Iraq’s president, Jalal Talabani. Mr. Bush said he wanted Iraqis to know “that the United States of America stands with them, so long as the government continues to make the tough choices necessary for peace to prevail.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/20/world/middleeast/20maliki.html?hp&ex=1158724800&en=67703253d067036c&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:59 PM
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1. That pic of Maliki w/the Iranian prez shaking hands probably didn't
instill lots of confidence. So what's the blivet's next move? His m.o. seems to be let's get 'em all, and let God sort it out (after he (dimson) dies, in the future, so he doesn't have a thing to worry about).
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:03 PM
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2. I almost think the blivet doesn't make a move, but
relies on the Iraqis to do it for him. If he does nothing and they founder more, the question may be who will speak up and tell us to get out of their country, particularly if the next step is a partition following civil war.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:03 PM
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3. in other words...
he met with the Iranians?

:shrug:
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:42 PM
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4. They are getting ready to install a "strongman"
but that won't work either, no one can has enough force to control Iraq now. It would take hundreds of thousands of troops.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:45 PM
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5. Put Saddam back
and let those who can pretend like this never happened
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:46 PM
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6. Allawi would make a good new Saddam
Allawi is a secular thug who, unlike Saddam, takes orders from the US to heart.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:47 PM
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7. In other words...someone like Saddam. n/t
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:03 AM
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9. Yep.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:00 AM
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8. but only if they make "the tough choices necessary for peace to prevail.”
what, like he's gonna put pressure on Iraqis to get their government to make "the tough choices"?

who wrote that flippin' speech? bush, off the cuff? man, that's a doozy of a claim. we'll stand with them unless they fall, in which case what? we kill them all and steal their oil?
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:23 PM
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10. Cowardice by proxy...
do Neocons ever do anything themselves?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:30 PM
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11. Doubts Rise on Iraqi Premier’s Strength

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/20/world/middleeast/20maliki.html?ex=1158897600&en=e43dfbd4886ce064&ei=5087%0A

Doubts Rise on Iraqi Premier’s Strength

BAGHDAD, Sept. 19 — Senior Iraqi and American officials are beginning to question whether Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki has the political muscle and decisiveness to hold Iraq together as it hovers on the edge of a full civil war.

Four months into his tenure, Mr. Maliki has failed to take aggressive steps to end the country’s sectarian strife because they would alienate fundamentalist Shiite leaders inside his fractious government who have large followings and private armies, senior Iraqi politicians and Western officials say. He is also constrained by the need to woo militant Sunni Arabs connected to the insurgency.

Patience among Iraqis is wearing thin. Many complain that they have seen no improvement in security, the economy or basic services like electricity. Some Sunni Arab neighborhoods seem particularly deprived, fueling distrust of the Shiite-led government.

Concerns about the toughness of the new government seemed reflected in President Bush’s comments when he met Tuesday with Iraq’s president, Jalal Talabani. Mr. Bush said he wanted Iraqis to know “that the United States of America stands with them, so long as the government continues to make the tough choices necessary for peace to prevail.”


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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:30 PM
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12. marionettes are only as strong as their strings....
Al-Maliki is a puppet, despite his attempts to show some autonomy. His government is utterly dependent upon U.S. occupation.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:30 PM
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13. Yeah, I wonder what they think their alternative is?
What, this is Vietnam, lose confidence in one leader, there's a coup and another takes his place, over and over again?
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independentpiney Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:30 PM
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14. I've been wondering who was going to play Diem
in the new fiasco.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:30 PM
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15. Took the words outta my mouth!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:30 PM
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16. We need a strong-arm man, someone like Sadd....oh,
nevermind.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:30 PM
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17. Guess he wasn't bending and spreading his cheeks enough
What happened to the "democratic elections" that Iraq held? How can we be replacing their elected leader every 3 months? So much for democracy.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:30 PM
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18. al-Maliki finding it's difficult to run the country
From within the safety of the Green Zone far away from the people he's supposed to be leading.
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