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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:41 PM
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Woodward Defends Holding Scoops for Bk: Wanted story told before election
Editor&Publisher: Woodward Defends Holding Scoops for Book
By E&P Staff
Published: October 02, 2006

NEW YORK -- Interviewed by Matt Lauer on the Today show today, Bob Woodward revealed that he had deliberately timed his new book, "State of Denial," to come out before the November elections.

Lauer had challenged Woodward on the timing, since the charges in the book about the administration allegedly misleading the public on progress in the Iraq war are so significant. How could he hold that for a book? Why didn't he get them published in his newspaper, The Washington Post, or shout them from a "mountaintop" instead of waiting to "make a splash" with them in a book?

Woodward replied that he had not waited "to make a splash, but to assemble the whole story," and then go to the White House and Pentagon and CIA and ask, "What did you do?" He added: "Simon & Schuster and my bosses at the Washington Post said the only real obligation here is to tell it before the election.

"That's what we're doing. People can judge for themselves."...

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He also stuck by his guns on another key scoop in the book -- in which he reveals that CIA Director George Tenet and his top intelligence man met with Condoleezza Rice, then national security chief, two months before 9/11, to deliver a very strong warning about a coming terrorist attack on the U.S....

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003189931
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:47 PM
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1. This makes me nervous
Is everything negative about Iraq and the Bushies, from this point forward, going to be tied up with this book and Woodward's "politicizing" for the election?? Did he do this on purpose? Tenet is now saying he DID tell the 9/11 commission about the meeting and THEY didn't ask the questions.

Are we getting set up?

:tinfoilhat:
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:52 PM
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2. I don't see how this could possibly be a "set up"
30% of the people (and 80% of the fundies) will support Bush even if he is caught propositioning young boys on TV.

Of course, Woodward will be "swift boated," so if 15% fall for those lies and 6% vote for "other," Bush's party will win.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:06 PM
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3. The NIE report
Democrats were/are going to go after Bush and Republicans on Iraq.

Woodward has said he did put out the book before the election. That's going to be spun as selling books and politicizing the war. Anything Democrats say will be lumped in with Woodward, pure politics.

If Tenet or others say Woodward isn't telling the truth about aspects of Iraq and the war, then people will think any other criticisms are lies too.

We're not talking about polls across the country at large, we're talking about tight districts where we need a small percentage to win.

Has Bob Woodward taken the steam out of the Democrats' campaign against Bush and Iraq?
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:10 PM
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4. Well at least it puts the war on the table.
Quick! Look over there! It's an illegal immigrant!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:24 PM
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5. That's true
Apparently the illegal immigrants have launched an invasion in my state, that's all the Repub is running on.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:37 PM
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6. Haha! We are really about to see an example of how true that is. (nt)
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:22 PM
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8. The swift boat won't stick..
He knows the game and He's the one who made a preemptive strike
on the Bush WH and the fundies. And looky here, they are so busy
looking for a Teflon coated excuse to slide off them and away from
Foley...well, I don't think they can manufacture the time...eveyone
else has left DC for home to campaign...Out of time and Out of Luck..

The Foley debacle could be a Rovian plan because now Hasteret may be next
to burn at the stake for not reporting the child abuse...Someone up
yonder mentioned Newt, may be earmarked for a comeback....we'll see!!!

For now, Woodward is definitely a mushrooming X-Factor that is out of Fundie control..

Americans (1)

Fundies (0)

:toast:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:08 PM
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14. bush could kill a baby on live prime time TV
and they would swiftboat the baby.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:21 AM
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19. I think Woodward is one of the few
people who cannot be swiftboated.

He has been around Washington too long to fall into that trap. And remember, he taped all the interviews for the book.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:36 PM
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10. Set Up? Woodward is just repeating what others have said.
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 09:38 PM by cryingshame
edit- and what he has repeated... was known before the LAST election and withheld.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:46 PM
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11. That kind of thinking leads to political paralysis.
Of course they're gonna twist & spin everything you throw at them. You can either lie down & get stomped or keep throwing things at them on the theory that eventually something's gonna land that they can't spin, or that people will get so sick of the constant spin that they get immune to it & start to see the truth.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:04 PM
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13. Or be prepared on your own
And move forward with the plan you had to begin with. I just hope Democrats let this swirl for a few days before joining in the spin. Last time we trusted Woodward, he backpedaled. Don't need that again.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:13 PM
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7. Woodward's actions are deliberate
He didn't come forward earlier because he needed to corroborate the evidence
he was gathering to back his claims as genuine and indisputable. After all,
His assertions had to be taken seriously in the world of "reality"...

Matt Lauer and the talking heads have been complicit in spinning fantasy for
so long, they hardly know the Truth when they hear it. Woodward did his
investigative due diligence as a duty to the People and his country. He
chose to record his findings in book form rather than pulp because of the serious
nature of the subject matter.

Woodward has dealt a serious blow to the Bush Administration's pro-campaign strategy.
He has become the dreaded X-Factor..the unknown that rears it's head when your plans
are iron clad with the results @ 100% predictability of success.

I haven't read his book as of yet..I plan on picking up a copy this week..
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:27 PM
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9. How can Woodward type with all that blood on his hands?
He is as complicit in enabling the BFEE as anybody - read his hagiography, "Bush at War"/
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:01 PM
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12. Bob Woodward only cares about Bob Woodward
Like every other self-centered whore he doesn't have any social conscience!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:55 PM
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18. Not really,
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 11:56 PM by Tellurian
He is reporting the results of an intense investigation...which happens to be his job.

I'm afraid Bush and his administration have to accept FULL responsibility for their actions.
Woodward could never have stopped Bush from going to Iraq...After all, Bush, Cheney and Powell.. LIED..
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:40 AM
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20. He could have told the truth BEFORE this
But he didn't.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:01 AM
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23. It wasn't Woodward's Truth to be Told..
He revealed Bush's Lie with impecable TRUTH to back up his work..

You're off the track, Joe Bacon!
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:12 PM
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24. Woodward covered it up, and that is a fact!
Woodward waitied till he could make another mint. Meanwhile, almost 3,000 families lost their sons and daughters for no reason whatsoever. Go to any of those families and tell them how wonderful Woodward is. You will not get a charitable response from any of them!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:20 PM
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15. Why did he not publish sooner?
he wanted to get it all together and yes, probably have impact on the upcoming election since it should. Having this information out in this form will get to many people, will influence people AS IT SHOULD.

Why did he not publish bits in the WAPost? Has the WAPost NOT published any critisim?

Yes, yes and yes. Good for him to do this now. Good for him and tough shit to you whiners (repubs and freepers)
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:43 PM
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17. What Woodward has written is a historical accounting of
a Rouge presidency drunk with power attempting to circumvent the Constitution
in an all out attempt at a power grab proclaiming himself a DICTATOR!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:31 PM
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16. Maybe he didn't publish a lot of this in the Post
'cause the Post wouldn't publish a lot of it.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:22 AM
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21. ANYONE who buys that book is a sucker and a dupe
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 06:41 AM by depakid
Sorry- but they are.

The book- just like the serial liar, propagansist and wholesale huckster who wrote it ought to be put out to pasture.

It represents everything that's wrong with "journalism" in America.

Oh wait- that was "Bush at War." No- this seems to be a new one...:shrug:

Guess old Bob licked his fingers and guessed which way the wind was blowing.

State of Denial my a$$. Thanks Bob- for doing something to help your country out when we needed you.

Bit too late now.



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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:33 AM
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22. One wonders...
... when Woodward got a clue. Almost everyone here in late 2002 knew that Iraq was a colossal mistake based on a series of lies, how could a seasoned journalist not know?

Selling books is a business. Nobody is going to sell many copies of a "Iraq is Going Great" book at the present time.

Woodward may be telling the truth, now, but I'd never respect him - he could have told it long ago - it's not like it was a big secret.
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