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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:45 PM
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WP: Foley Acquaintances Question Alcoholism (rarely saw him drink)
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 07:50 PM by truthpusher
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/03/AR2006100301001_pf.html

Foley Acquaintances Question Alcoholism

By BRIAN SKOLOFF
The Associated Press
Tuesday, October 3, 2006; 8:39 PM

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- When disgraced former Rep. Mark Foley announced he was entering rehab for treatment of alcoholism and "other behavioral problems," some of those who have known him for years were shocked and suspicious.

Some friends and acquaintances said they rarely saw him drink.

A former colleague, Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., said on Fox News Channel: "I don't buy this at all. I think this is a phony defense. The fact is, I think he's responsible for what he did here and I think it's a gimmick."

(snip)

"Mark acknowledges that he is an alcoholic and as many alcoholics does not publicly display his consumption," Foley's attorney and longtime friend David Roth said.

(snip)

"I have never seen Mark inebriated in public," said Robin Bernstein, who has known Foley for 25 years. "I mean, he was a social drinker like most of us at cocktail parties with a glass of wine, but Mark was always ... the consummate gentleman."

(snip)

link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/03/AR2006100301001_pf.html
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:51 PM
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1. Convenient Way to Duck the Heat, That's All!
I'm not buying the "alcoholism" schtick, just like I am not buying his story about being molested by a priest in his youth. He's just making up excuses for his behavior.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:51 PM
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2. Problem is, there's no rehab clinics for sociopaths
so you can't make a big show of going into rehab for that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:48 PM
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21. They should have a rehab
for sociopaths and call it the gwb clinic for sociopaths and other repuke afflictions.
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:54 PM
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3. I hope the Rehab. Center release a statement
saying they checked and he is not alcoholic
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:19 PM
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11. They can't say anything at all
Patient Confidentiality.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:55 PM
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4. Now that he's PACKED his "Wand" back in his pants
He's hiding from the light of day.

Like the earth worm he is.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:14 PM
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22. Fudge packing is now on the back burner for awhile, 'eh saigon68?

That damn alcohol...makes me screwy everytime.
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:01 PM
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5. Just a ploy on order to escape
charges for this
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:28 PM
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6. K&R
:kick:
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 PM
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7. if he were an alcoholic
were there be some indication in all those e-mails?
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:25 PM
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24. "Just another corrupted pol
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 10:25 PM by ShockediSay
blaming all on alcohol.
And don't tell Senator Rick Santorum
it began with a priestly lack of decorum."

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:47 PM
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8. Just another Republican (Party of Responsibility)...
...taking responsibility for his actions!





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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:53 PM
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9.  the consummate gentleman
And what else was he consumating?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:55 PM
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10. What's Peter King's excuse then?
.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:20 PM
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12. He needs to go to Republican rehab.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:23 PM
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13. Worked for Mel Gibson
Alcohol makes Mel anti-semitic.
Why wouldnt it make Congressman Foley a sexual predator?

Foley must have hired Mels PR guy.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:06 AM
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30. Ahh, yes the Gibson method. If we see Foley at Apocolypto premier.
then we know that they could have been roomies.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:27 PM
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14. " .. rarely saw him drink .." Dick Van Dyke was an alcoholic, too.
I remember the shock of hearing that almost 40 years ago. Alcoholics can hide it. Period. Dick Van Dyke only drank after his kids were in bed. But then it was a whopper. Next day? Job performance? EtOH on breath? Hard to explain. But expert alcoholics manage. Foley was one.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:29 PM
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15. most true alcohalics keep their drinking secret for years. I am not saying
Foley does have an alcohal problem--but a characterist is that even close friends do not know.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:48 PM
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19. My point with the post above.
Just like with Dick Van Dyke, the signs are there .. but they drink in the closet. I've seen it way too close.

Here is an example. My father-in-law (now 92 and in a nursing home) was a surgeon. He operated drunk, often. But no one ever saw him drink. He had hired hands (one of whom - his office manager - stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from his practice over about 40 years) to buy him liquor in volume in a county or so over, and to procure the dangerous prescription drugs (mainly meprobamate) that he took in high doses.

In his 80s, before we had him committed, whores got most of his disposable income. For them, it was E-Z money. Show up. Watch him drink a glass of wine and pass out. Leave. E-Z money.

Mac
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:35 PM
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16. The GOP just know one thing!
It was someone else's fault and the GOP are the eternal victim. So old...so old...
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:35 PM
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17. Remember at the height of the Watergate furor,
Nixon got "pneumonia" and went into the hospital.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:46 PM
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18. But, Always the consummate
fucking liar, too.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:48 PM
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20. If this was some Joe Shmoe, would alcoholism matter?
The judge would just say, "tough luck, but you're going to jail". Same thing about the claims of priestly molestation, although I do think the latter have some salience as an explanation, although not a justification.

He needs to be accountable for his actions, as do the GOP (Guarding Old Perverts) enablers that helped hide his behavior.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:18 PM
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23. its ALL complete bullshit
the alcoholism, his being abused as a child, the whole stinkin' lot.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:28 PM
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25. There's such a thing as a functional alcoholic...
...I guess you'd say closet drinker.
Surely there'd be indications? I don't mean things like ETOH or fresh Listerine on the breath, choking on pretzels, falling down and running into trees...those are easy.
But mood swings or behavioral (besides the cyber-sex) aberrations?
Forget that he's Rep Mark Foley (R-Slimeball) mask and look at overall job performance...just as you would an ordinary person...
how is that?
Is this the behavior of a functional alcoholic?

And before anybody starts flaming me....

I AM NOT DEFENDING, EXCUSING, OR CONDONING THIS MAN'S ACTIONS OR BEHAVIOR.

I'm only asking for some information about whether he may be a 'functional alcoholic'...which excuses nothing. Zip. Nada. Bupkis.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:35 PM
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26. Don't AA principles work for other kinds of "holics"?
Pedophiloholics, for example?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:17 AM
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31. AA principals are designed for alcoholics
although they have been used with success with other programs, eg. Narcotics Anonymous.

I am not aware of any 12 step program for pedophiles.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 08:09 AM
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34. LOL -he'd better hope so
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 08:11 AM by depakid
because he's going to have to face a very unhappy judge, given his position on certain committees and what he's pushed for through the years.

Were I the judge, I'd without question give him the max on any law that's he's been involved with passing.

That would be classic justice.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:45 PM
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27. "former colleague, Rep. Peter King, R-NY" ?!
Is this the same as "former colleague, Rep. Tome Reynolds, R-NY" as well? The same sh*tsack "former colleague" who knowingly withheld information on the abuse from authorities? In most states, it's grounds for felony conviction, Mr. Reynolds...

Jeebus, I cannot wait for Jack Davis to hand you your @ss next month...

:mad:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:06 PM
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28. The minute I heard about Foley and re-hab...
...the first thought which crossed my mind was: BULL SHIT!

Who the hell does he think he is kidding?

:eyes:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:03 AM
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29. Nice try, chumps.
Lame.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:18 AM
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32. what is Peter King running for?
damn-that man is ready to hang his fellow Repukes

:rofl:

and this whole alcohol this is an insult to people with a real problem
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 07:51 AM
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33. just another facet of the Damage Control coverup
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