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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:49 PM
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IU study: The Daily Show with Jon Stewart as substantive as network news
"It is clearly a humor show, first and foremost," Fox said of Stewart's program. "But there is some substance on there, and in some cases, like John Edwards announcing his candidacy, the news is made on the show. You have real newsmakers coming on, and yes, sometimes the banter and questions get a little silly, but there is also substantive dialogue going on … It's a legitimate source of news."

Indiana University:
http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/4159.html

Local News Site:
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5496392


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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:51 PM
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1. Even more so.....
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:09 PM
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2. Agreed...
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 01:10 PM by Chimpys_Last_Stand
Too bad there wasn't more of Jon and less of people like Hodgman and Bakkedahl. Less sophomoric humour as well. While I am not offended by it, it in my opinion does not hold to the standard of comic truth which shines through when Jon simply tackles the lying liars of BushCo and the MSM head on. Anyway...the IU study is on the mark.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:57 PM
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16. Hodgeman is brilliant
.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 09:45 PM
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23. Hey...comedy is subjective.
Nothing wrong with your opinion...or mine.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:59 PM
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30. True. But he is still brilliant
and skewers rw hypocrisy with wit and insight. (And of course his fabulous demeanour)
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:52 PM
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31. Okay, fine.
You can have the last word. I don't care. It's just an opinion about a comedy show.

Sheesh.

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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 06:58 PM
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21. John Hodgman is on.. what, once or twice a month?
I love his off the wall humor. The show has always had "sophomoric humor," but to be honest the current "correspondent" lineup is rather weak these days. They seem to do a lot more really lame/unfunny reports than they used to.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 09:51 PM
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24. I simply believe they are at their best when they focus on....
...knocking the high and mighty off their pedestal...and they mostly miss the mark in my opinion when they try to emulate one of the Porky's movies. Again, it doesn't offend me...it's just seems to waste time in an already too short show which is only on four days a week.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:42 AM
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28. I agree...Steven Colbert manages to use the whole half hour.
Stewart should do the same. Jon Stewart is a genius at unmasking the hypocrisy of his right-wing guests. He manages to show them up with a good-natured humour that doesn't offend them and has them coming back for more. There are certainly enough right-wing assholes available for him to fill a half-hour nightly show! The other performers on his show, except for Lewis Black, who fits into the show perfectly, are just time wasters, IMO.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:20 PM
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3. To laugh you have to understand the context and subtext
Anyone who comes to the Daily Show without a good grasp of politics and current events is sure to find little humor in the show.

But for the rest of us, it's funny as hell....


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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:49 PM
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32. When Peter Jennings told Jon that too many young people use TDS
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 09:55 PM by rocknation
as their primary news source, Jon said, "That can't be true, because if it were, they wouldn't get the jokes."

:headbang:
rocknation
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:24 PM
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4. Other studies have said it's more substantive than fox
That's a no brainer, but I think today you could probably argue it my be better than even the average nightly news.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:12 PM
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5. you got that right! More substanive then Faux!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:19 PM
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10. I remember that-late night audiences did better than Fox viewers
I hope I am not morphing two surveys together but I think there was a rather tough 8 question survey and people who watched Dave Leno and Jon did much better than anyone who only watched network news.

There was another survey (U or Maryland I think) that asked 3 very easy NO questions (WMD found? World support for the war in Iraq? Links to alQaeda) and the more you watched Fox the more uninformed you were.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:34 PM
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34. You may be thinking also of the Annenberg survey.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:10 PM
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15. Add a laugh-track to The O'Reilly Factor and you have...
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 04:12 PM by IanDB1


"Buffalo Bill" (1983) {TV-Series 1983-1984}


Plot Summary for "Buffalo Bill" (1983)

Bill Bittinger is the egotistical host of a local daytime talk show on WBFL in Buffalo, NY., unhappy at being a big fish in a small pond (but unable to break into the big leagues). Bill makes life miserable for his crew, guests, and especially his station manager, Karl Shub, who is constantly dodging lawsuits resulting from Bill's behavior. The one person Bill is unable to bully is his director and on again/off again lover, Jo Jo White.

More:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084992/


Or maybe:

Plot Summary for "Monty" (1994)

Monty Richardson is a Conservative talk-show host, a la Rush Limbaugh. His family, however, are rather liberal, including his son's radically left-wing girlfriend. The comedy starts as they try to resolve their differences...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108863/plotsummary


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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 05:04 PM
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17. I'd forgotten "Buffalo Bill," but it's so perfect. GREAT writing. nt

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:16 PM
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6. It's more truthful than the crap they feed the masses on the MSM.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:23 PM
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7. Well, given the competition, this is hardly surprising.
Katie Couric, Leslie Blitzer, Whazzisname Gibson, Brit Hume... it's a slam dunk!
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:09 PM
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8. OMG! It is clearly more informative, more intelligent,
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 03:10 PM by tinfoilinfor2005
more interesting, more honest, more clearly presented, and better researched than pox, or any of the other news networks.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:11 PM
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9. I couldn't agree more
and the fact this his audience, and Colbert's audience, are often a bit young is an added plus, since they are educating them. I can't see them getting THAT education anywhere else, without really searching for it.
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sugapablo Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:21 PM
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11. Wow. First South Park gets a Peabody Award...
...and now this!

I'm not alone in the world anymore! People are finally understanding what I've been saying for years!

I think I"m going to cry now.

:hug:
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:39 PM
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12. And this is news to whom???
:rofl:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:44 PM
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13. I get my news here on DU
As I told my mother, if it's happening out there, someone drags it in here. I usually see the story 24 to 48 hours before it hits the local paper!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:02 AM
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25. I agree. I run to the computer when the first wiffs of a story hits the
news channels. I want to hear it right.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:08 PM
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14. Jon Stewart is pretty good, but he's certainly no Craig Kilborn.

I'm kidding!

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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 05:05 PM
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18. Kilborn DESERVED to get his ass kicked and suspended..
...for sexually harassing one of the show's co-founders...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 05:07 PM
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19. I knew Kilborn sucked, but didn't know about the sexual harassment
Someday, Kilborn's tombstone will read, simply... "...then catch Craig!" in very small print.

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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:58 AM
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27. it involved Lizz Winstead....who's much funnier than he is...
..
he told some magazine...Vanity Fair? PLayboy? that if he wanted to he could have her, ahem, performing oral sex on him, only in crude terms....this appeared in print. he was suspended, she got an undisclosed bundle of cash...
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 07:00 PM
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22. I never shaw the show under Kilborn
However, I did see him on the "Late Late Show" a few times and he was the definition of unfunny.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 06:53 PM
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20. it sure is.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:26 AM
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26. As much as I love "The Daily Show", I was STILL impressed by
the show with Pervez Musharraf as a guest. The fact that a comedy show was airing an erudite, substantive debate on the War On Terror* as it relates to Pakistan. Between a Jew and a Muslim, no less. Very impressive.


* Pronounced "warron terr!"
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:11 AM
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29. FOX is the Fake News
The Daily Show is real.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:15 PM
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33. You can't help but be real when all you do is point out the obvious.
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 11:22 PM by rocknation
In the case of the so-called "real news," all TDS does is point out how fake it is. They're not bound to use words like "insurgency" and "sectarian violence." They can tell it like it is: "Mess-O-Potamia" and "civil war." The contrast between their realness and the national media's fakeness is what makes you laugh--and learn.

Now, here's Newt Gingrich spinning the Foley crisis by telling the press that sex scandal-wise, "Democrats have done far worse...We don't have to...allow...the left to lecture us on morality. There's a certain stench of hypocrisy." Gingrich served divorce papers on his terminally ill first wife, and had to leave government service because he carried on a 10-year affair while persecuting Bill Clinton over Monica Lewinsky. But for some reason, the stench of THAT hypocrisy never reaches the reporters' noses. What you end up with is REAL fake news!

:headbang:
rocknation
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