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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:55 PM
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High School Removes *Display* of Banned Books! (For Banned Book week)
Display of Banned Books Removed at Harrisonburg High School Posted 2006-10-04
Superintendent Encourages Reading Because of Content, Not Controversy

By Jeff Mellott



A display at Harrisonburg High School of books that have, at some point in history, either been banned or challenged was ordered removed last month by Harrisonburg Schools Superintendent Donald Ford.

The display, which Ford ordered removed Sept. 27, was part of the American Library Association’s annual Banned Books Week, the last week of September.

Ford said he was concerned the school division would encourage students to read banned books because they are on a controversial list and not because of their content.

Diverse Views

The high school library has participated in at least the past two Banned Books Week, said librarian Elsie Garber, who is in her third year at the library.

Garber would not comment on the display, other than to say it included several books.

School administrators would not release a complete list of the books in the display.

However, High School Principal Irene Reynolds recalled that the titles included "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer" and "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn," by Mark Twain; "Fahrenheit 451" by Ray Bradbury; "The Diary of Ann Frank," and "The Bible.

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http://www.dnronline.com/news_details.php?AID=6611&CHID=2
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:57 PM
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1. yep wouldn't want those kids reading
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:25 PM
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29. One way to get kids to read
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:38 AM
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57. And I'm glad you ended your post where you did
Because these people really aren't only opposed to kids reading controversial, unconventional books. They are simply opposed to them reading anything, because heaven forbid, then they might learn how to actually think rather than just take standardized tests.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:58 PM
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2. That's real smart....tell a teen not to do something......they will
do it....

Well that can only mean educated teens....
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:00 PM
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3. Yep, virtually guaranteeing
these kids will now read at least one of the banned books, if not more.

What a spineless jackass.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:06 PM
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4. So now it's not just what books you read but
WHY you read them that the thought police want to control.

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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 06:24 PM
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35. you're asking for a "rendition," buster!
n/t
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:06 PM
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5. Hey, why stop there? Why not burn the damned things?!
Geez, I can't decide whether banning banned books from a display is consistency or hypocrisy.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:42 PM
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15. Start with Fahrenheit 411
That book is just itching for the fire!!

:sarcasm: (just in case)
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:11 PM
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6. I have yet to understand why they want Mark Twain's books banned
Or the "The Diary of Anne Frank", for that matter. I read that when I was 8-Mom had to explain what a concentration camp was, because all I knew about WWII when I was 8 was the Japanese theater of the war, because that's where my great-uncle fought.

But Mark Twain's books are part of american culture. Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn are classic characters-smart kids who learn important lessons about life.

I hope every high schooler affected by the ban goes out and reads as many books on the list that he or she can find. Including "The Catcher In The Rye", as long as it doesn't inspire them to go out and kill rock idols.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:13 PM
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7. Black groups have often demanded Twains books be banned.
Huck calls Jim "nigger Jim."
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:33 PM
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13. Essay: Is Huck Finn a Racist Book?
http://www.salwen.com/mtrace.html
...
For Twain's critics, the novel is racist on the face of it, and for the most obvious reason: many characters use the word "nigger" throughout. But since the action of the book takes place in the south twenty years before the Civil War, it would be amazing if they didn't use that word.

A closer reading also reveals Twain's serious satiric intent. In one scene, for instance, Aunt Sally hears of a steamboat explosion.
"Good gracious! anybody hurt?" she asks.

"No'm," comes the answer. "Killed a nigger."

But anyone who imagines that Mark Twain meant this literally is missing the point. Rather, Twain is using this casual dialogue ironically, as a way to underscore the chilling truth about the old south, that it was a society where perfectly "nice" people didn't consider the death of a black person worth their notice. To drive the point home, Twain has the lady continue:
"Well, it's lucky, because sometimes people do get hurt."
...
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:44 AM
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49. Huck decides he'd rather go to hell than turn Jim in.
Thats the pivotal moment in the book, Huck, who does literally believe that the failure to turn Jim in as an escaped slave will result in his going to hell, nevertheless decides that he won't do it because the law is wrong.

Anyone who thinks the book is racist is illiterate. Lots of illiterate people can read, apparently.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:17 PM
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9. Why ban Mark Twain?
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 01:22 PM by OKIsItJustMe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventures_of_Huckleberry_Finn#Controversy
Huckleberry Finn is not an imaginary person. He still lives; or rather they still live; for Huckleberry Finn is two persons in one -- namely, the author's two uncles, the present editors of the Boston Advertiser and the Springfield Republican. In character, language, clothing, education, instinct, and origin, he is the painstakingly and truthfully drawn photograph and counterpart of these two gentlemen as they were in the time of their boyhood, forty years ago. The work has been most carefully and conscientiously done, and is exactly true to the originals, in even the minutest particulars, with but one exception, and that is a trifling one: this boy's language has been toned down and softened, here and there, in deference to the taste of a more modern and fastidious day.

— Mark Twain

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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:19 PM
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10. N-word usage, usually.
Which is IMHO foolish, given the book's treatment of slavery, slavecatchers, and slaveowners. Hell, Huck Finn is a lowdown redneck kid who undergoes personal and spiritual transformation in the course of the journey downriver. Not that that matters...

Probably the drunkenness, cussing, and violence (all common features of life in Mississippi river towns of the day) offend some as well. Feh. I read the book on my own in fifth grade and didn't read anything that I hadn't heard at home--my parents were wise, generous (lifelong Democrats) people who also knew how to use coarse language when the occasion demanded.



:rant:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:46 PM
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21. I thought it was the homo erotic themes in Finn
According to my mom.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:41 PM
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23. "Come back to de raf', Huck honey!"
I remember my freshman English prof citing that... :rofl:

Well, it's the great American novel, IMHO. Drunkenness, criminality, violence, religious and racial bigotry... and yet Huck comes out transfigured. "All right, I'll GO to hell!"--that can't have pleased the fundies. :toast:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:48 PM
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24. My kids hated "Catcher in the Rye"
They all agree that Holden is a whiny jerk who wouldn't recognize a hard day's work if it came up and bit him on the ass.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 05:10 PM
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33. I didn't like Catcher in the Rye either
I wanted to take Holden and give him a good slap and tell him to grow up.

I read it a few years ago, in my early twenties. Maybe it was because I was older, but I just wasn't impressed with the main characters. I only finished it because I felt that I had to.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:05 AM
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54. I read it at 17 and loved it
My junior lit teacher brought me to her desk and whispered, "Read Catcher in the Rye." I was experiencing such angst at the time, and it hit the spot for me. Of course, I starting looking over again in my 40's, and thought "What the hell was I thinking?" But then I remember it did resonate with an angrier and more passionate Ishoutandscream back in the 70's.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:15 PM
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8. Very Sickening... The Dumbing Down of America continues...
I am convinced that there is an organized agenda to dumb down Americans so as to enslave them in concentration camps of the mind.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 08:32 PM
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38. You are probably right.
With this bunch of thugs running things it would not surprise me in the least if they were doing this.Think about it.In the early to mid eighties the moral majority and other reich-wing groups were openly and surreptitiously running candidates for school boards all over the country.And we all Know how they feel about public education.
It would also explain why Reich wingers are encouraged to home school or private school their children.
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:02 AM
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45. You mean "Liberty Camps", don't you comrade?
The place where we will send the degenerates, slackers, and wrong thinkers to learn to become productive members of society!
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:17 PM
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70. Ah No, Comrade....
You mean to become productive members of the party state... ;)
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:24 PM
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11. Better dump DARE and other anti-drug programs as well!
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 01:25 PM by Ezlivin
If Ford believes that the display "would encourage students to read banned books", then he should be scared shitless over all the drug talk that DARE brings straight into the classroom.

If any boy or girl learned about those illicit drugs they may want to use them because they are controversial.

Hmmmm.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:56 PM
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16. Actually, I did recently read that a higher proportion of DARE
graduates go on to experiment with drugs than kids who didn't participate with the program.
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Neurotica Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:05 PM
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27. I'm curious to know who performed that study
I would bet that there is a right-wing bias to it.

The right-wing members of our local government tried to do away with DARE recently -- the parents wouldn't let them do it.

My son went through DARE last year -- it's a great program and it helped to initiate a lot of good family discussions.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:06 AM
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46. Nope
The study has been done repeatedly by academic researchers, the DEA itself (in a contract study), and the Cato Institute. (Not that i'm enamoured with Cato. But their methodology seems sound.) There is a broad spectrum of study on that and there is no right wing bias in those of which i'm aware.

In all cases, the studies revealed increase likelihood of drug use by DARE graduates by the time they were 19 years old. (20 in one of the studies i read.)
The Professor
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:52 PM
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65. well, to be fair
CATO certainly has a right-wing bent :)
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:28 PM
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12. A librarian encourages students to read books and makes the news.
And a school superintendent orders her to stop.

And we wonder why our education system lags behind the rest of the industrialized world.
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Neurotica Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:39 PM
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14. These people want to control access to ideas
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 01:42 PM by Neurotica
For more fun, check out an organization based in Fairfax County, Virginia -- PABBIS (Parents Against Bad Books in Schools).

http://www.pabbis.org/

(sorry! -- can't figure out how to make this a hyperlink right now)

Unfortunately, their methodology for challenging books is being adopted by other communities in other states.


Edit-- looks like the computer did my thinking for me
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 06:49 PM
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36. The ability to write complete sentences seems to be a skill
that pabbis.org lacks. Their main page includes this gem:

"Both in the classroom and library."
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:02 PM
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17. the irony overwhelms me
wow
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:11 PM
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18. Good grief.
"Our message should be to read books, a wide variety of books."

Except banned books.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:31 PM
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19. I think people are missing the point...
In order to know which books to read, the kids need to know they exist. By shutting down the "banned book" list, the freepers are essentially making them "persona non grata" in a literary sense. The display points out to the kids that these works of literature have been banned at one time or another, for various reasons. This makes them, of course, more desirable for those kids to read. Shutting down the display is denying to the kids that the books even exist.

The motive here is plain. If the freepers prevent the kids from even knowing these works exist, they have effectively "burned" them.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:44 PM
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20. The People Must Not Know What Has Been Banned
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 02:45 PM by JPZenger
This reminds me of when the Bush Administration went through the National Archives and reclassified a whole bunch of 50 year old documents that were declassified 10 years ago. It appeared they were mainly trying to cover up old mistakes by intelligence agencies. The head of the Archives was sworn to secrecy to not tell anyone that the material had disappeared.

It also reminds me of a great cartoon. It showed that the book banning in Shelbyville had to be cancelled once it was realized that none of the participants owned any books.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:40 PM
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41. If they ban a book, then why not let everyone know why it's banned?
I mean what possible reason did they come up with for banning The Diaries of Anne Frank?

If they're going to make stupid decisions, then their stuipidity should be a matter of public record.
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:59 AM
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44. If I recall correctly, "Diary..." was banned because...
... it taught children that courage and strength to act morally could come from within, not God. :eyes:

A quick google search also lists it being banned by Holocaust survivors, and by one textbook committee in Alabama for being too depressing.
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:27 PM
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22. My irony meter just fucking exploded...Can I borrow someone's?
I think this one might be a record.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:57 PM
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25. We have an irony meter rebuilding shop but we're a year behind
right now. ;-)
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:50 PM
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31. Good business to be in
Boom times for you.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:54 PM
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32. Sorry, but they've banned the irony meter repair manual. n/t
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:02 PM
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26. Harrisonburg, VA -- what George Allen calls his "base"
Once I followed the link and found out where this had taken place, I wasn't surprised.
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CGrantt57 Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:22 PM
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28. Great...
What with Foley awarding some asshole the "rough rider" award, and Idiot Boy* declaring last Monday to be the "Day of the Child" or some such political drivel, and now this...

MY IRONY METER IS COMPLETELY BUSTED!!!

Thanks a lot.

Where am I gonna get another one, now?

:cry:

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:38 PM
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30. The perfect response to this would be for some enterprising student to
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 04:38 PM by kgfnally
print up the list and insert a copy into every locker, along with the reason and who removed the display.

I can't imagine how such would even violate any school's policies. Students put notes into lockers fairly frequently, or at least the dyd when I was in high school....

ed.: sp.
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 05:19 PM
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34. more of the mentality of "if we can't control ourselves. nobody else
should get the chance"
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 08:24 PM
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37. So the Superintendent banned the banned books?
Does this make them "doubly-banned" books?

Will the American Library Association now have both a "Banned Books Week" and a "Doubly-Banned Books Week?"

I hope no one decides to ban the "doubly-banned" books!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 08:58 PM
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39. "Banned Books That Were Re-Banned Due To The Controversy ...
.... Arising From Their Being Banned" makes for some very long signage -- they're going to need to extend the shelf.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 09:36 PM
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40. We used to do massive displays for Banned Book Week.
At one point I had an entire section of the store closed off with police tape and padlocks. Literally, I had customers ask me why I made such a "big deal" about books that parents wouldn't let their kids read. You honestly have NO idea how much of the American public doesn't GET it.

I was picketed by a fundy church for carrying a book that a university professor wrote on the subject of gay images in the media, I had a women's group leaflet my store for carrying a book they found offensive, and I regularly had people giving me crap for putting up GLBT Studies and Pagan sections in my store.

This was a university bookstore...

I carried most of the stuff on the banned book list every day in my LITERATURE section, but it still amazed people when they looked around and realized what all has been challenged over the years. The people who were thinking were horrified by that list.

The folks like that administrator (who probably got creeped out at one or two titles on that list that he'd never actually read) who were not terribly bright or well read would just look around and walk away.

My personal FAVORITE banned book is Where's Waldo. Yep, they banned a kid's book of crowd scenes because on some pages "there are dirty things." In all my years as a bookseller, I NEVER managed to find one thing in that book.


Laura
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:22 AM
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42. I have read every book on that list
and quite a few more. These book-burners(that's what they really want to be) are totally clueless. I find many books offensive to me personally but I refuse to have them banned. If I don't like it, I won't read it. I've read the spectrum for far right to far left, from lost in the ozone to depths of depravity. Every book I've read made me think about something-and that is what the book burners want to stop. Thinking=BAD, belief=good in their little universe.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:51 AM
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43. Waiter to restaurant patron:
"I'm sorry sir. I'm afraid if I show you a menu, you'll order some food."
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:09 AM
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47. Another motivation might be to keep authority from looking stupid...
If the students (and people in general) see the list of what has been banned in the past, they'll see how silly the people that banned them were. This makes people more willing to question authority when they hear something pronounced, because they know from experience that those in power sometime do stupid things.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:18 AM
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48. 100 most banned books of 1990-2001
http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/bbwlinks/100mostfrequently.htm

My local library has a nice display for banned book week, with about a dozen books from the list on display. Oddly, the book front and center in the display is the Bible, which is not on the list of banned books.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:01 AM
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53. Certain versions of the Bible have been challenged.
As I recall there ARE certain versions (or translations) of the Bible that have been challenged over the years. If you go back and look at some of the church histories there have been some very real knock down drag out fights about which "version" of the Bible was the "true" one.

Regards!


Laura
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:37 AM
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56. That doesnt surprize me
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 10:38 AM by AllegroRondo
I just thought it was odd that they posted a listing of the '100 most banned books', that did not include the Bible, yet they displayed the Bible front and center on the 'banned books' table.
It goes along with perpetuating the whole "liberals want to ban the bible!" meme, for which they have no proof.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:27 AM
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50. My mom remembers reading Grapes of Wrath
specifically because it had been "restricted" in her HS. Restricted meant that you couldn't check them out of the library without a note from your parents. My grandmother, not a particularly liberal or activist minded woman, simply signed the entire list of restricted books and wrote that any of her kids could ask for any of the books on the list.
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:31 AM
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51. Ironically,
Harrisonburg is the home of James Madison University, named after the man known as The Father of the Constitution.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:00 AM
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52. To carry on the analogy, MLK birthday - shoot a Black civil rights leader
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 10:01 AM by TheBaldyMan
to commemorate the Holocaust - gas a few jews
anniversary of Hiroshima - nuke a few Nips
The mind reels at this stupidity - these dolts are supposed to be people entrusted with enlightening the coming generations.
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:30 AM
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55. You guys are always quick to jump - why not try reading the article first
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 10:31 AM by mconvente
"Ford said he was concerned the school division would encourage students to read banned books because they are on a controversial list and not because of their content."

He wants to take the display off because he wants kids to read books because of their value, not because they are "banned"... Try reading - we are Dems, we actually know how to...
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Neurotica Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:50 AM
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58. I believe it's a convenient excuse...
Fear of controversy vs. support for intellectual freedom
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StrongbadTehAwesome Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:05 AM
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59. Apologies, but that's bullshit reasoning.
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 11:08 AM by StrongbadTehAwesome
Look at reply 4 - "So now it's not just what books you read but
WHY you read them that the thought police want to control." We're all aware of the stupid line given for why the display was pulled, and your insults aren't necessary.

But honestly, what the hell does it matter why a kid wants to read a book? By reading the book, they're going to GET the content of the book no matter if that's the reason they originally chose to read it or not. So his excuse makes no sense, especially since the banned books list reads like a damn 'who's who' of important 20th century authors for the most part.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:37 AM
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61. Plus the entire point of "Banned Book week" is to get you interested
...in those particular books, so you'll read them and wonder for yourself why they were banned.

The whole thing promotes healthy skepticism of the censors...
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:44 PM
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64. Exactly. This is an issue of power, and the savvy kids know it.
The hypocricy in our high schools is so thick you can taste it. The lesson they learned was WAY bigger than who is in charge of the book list.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:06 AM
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60. I think reading a book and knowing it's been banned
adds to the experience of reading the book.

:shrug:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:20 PM
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63. Who cares WHY they read them? Just get the little bastards reading!!!
...Good grief, why does it matter WHY they are reading them, if the net result is they wind up reading the books? Jeez, what might happen next? The kids might start discussing the books with each other to find out why they think they were banned, or whether they liked them or not? OH NO!!! We can't have that.....
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 05:23 PM
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68. If they weren't important, they wouldn't be controversial
The controversy is the key indicator that they SHOULD be read.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:15 PM
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62. What Did He Say?
This is why public education is failing our nation.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 04:14 PM
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66. Some years ago;
I got hold of a master list of the most banned books in the history of the US. Lol, I had read 15-20 and over the next couple of years, I read probably that many more. Also, the link to the paper hails from the Shenandoah valley. I can mention two things from that part of the world; The Union Army KICKED THE SHIT out of Johnny Reb there and if you ever have the misfortune to visit that part of the south, make damn sure you do not go to Luray Cave just off the interstate west of skyline drive. I did and while the cave itself is not bad (Mammoth Cave is 10 times better) at the entrance to Luray is the symbol for the KKK. They have meetings there and any money spent will benefit their cause. You might say that's our contribution to keeping money out of the hands of terrorists.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 05:12 PM
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67. Smart open minded people are tougher to brain wash.
Kick.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 05:39 PM
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69. and it's time to mop up the last islands of resistance to the Big Lie(s)..
n/t
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