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shamanstar Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:18 PM
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Mom Vainly Tries to See U.S. Iraq Soldier Daughter
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&e=2&u=/nm/20031205/us_nm/iraq_daughter_dc_2

TIKRIT, Iraq (Reuters) - A peace activist accused the U.S. military on Friday of depriving her of the chance to visit her soldier daughter, telling her that the truck driver was on a mission.

Anabel Valencia said she had informed U.S. military officials that she would be at the gates of the base at noon to see 24-year-old Giselle. She arrived only to discover that her daughter had been sent on a mission to Baghdad.


"I have not seen her in three years, I don't know why they are doing this," said Valencia
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:21 PM
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1. Wow, Is this a sign of the way Bushco is "liberating" Iraq?
<snip>
"The Americans asked us to come here to stop the demonstration," said Iraqi policeman Mohanan Taha.


Asked if protests were illegal in the new Iraq, he told reporters: "There are no human rights under the Americans. Nothing. It is all empty talk."


"We miss the days of Saddam," said Iraqi policeman Mohammed Shawki.
<snip>
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:23 PM
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4. I guess we're on the same page!
It's a shame, isn't it?
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pdove Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:25 PM
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5. Iraqi freedom and democracy

Is such a joke to Iraqi people. I wonder how many more soldiers will we have to lose.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:23 PM
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2. Very interesting part of this article....
The Americans asked us to come here to stop the demonstration," said Iraqi policeman Mohanan Taha.

Asked if protests were illegal in the new Iraq, he told reporters: "There are no human rights under the Americans. Nothing. It is all empty talk."

"We miss the days of Saddam," said Iraqi policeman Mohammed Shawki.


History will not be kind to this America!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:40 PM
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8. If the Iraqi police forces WE trained miss Saddam and...
...they're disgusted with the US, this nightmare of a "liberation" is going to get a lot worse.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:23 PM
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3. Parents showing up in Iraq--I think the ball is really starting
to roll and the parents' presence makes the US troops nervous. This is good. Bring 'em now NOW!!

From the article:

"I feel so bad. I am sad," said Valencia, who was accompanied by Medea Benjamin of Global Exchange, an anti-war human rights group.

Several parents of Americans serving in Iraq (news - web sites) have come to the country to visit their children, including ones that were killed in the war that toppled Saddam.

Their presence just outside the military complex clearly made U.S. troops nervous. One arrived with a sniffer dog and firmly told Valencia to keep a distance from the main checkpoint.


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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:34 PM
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6. This is how to treat Americans
and she is a mother who has given a daughter to the chimp's grand cause.

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:50 PM
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10. She has a son over there, too. He was just home on leave.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:39 PM
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7. what an odd story
I am not sure what to make of the whole thing.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 01:09 PM
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12. Yeah, I hope she's actually still alive
eom
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 04:08 PM
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14. that's probably the punch line
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 04:09 PM by aunteeWar
Wouldn't that be the story of the year!
Bushco gets busted for keeping families uninformed about the deaths of their loved ones!
The Bastards!!

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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:47 PM
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9. Sorry, these are not your children they are PNAC's children
You did the right thing to raise your child as a loyal drone for the cause and now she is the tool of PNAC and no longer your child. Thank you for doing your duty. Now be gone!
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 01:08 PM
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11. Stan Goff--founder of Bring Them Home Now interview
Last night on one of the threads someone posted an open letter Goff wrote to GIs in Iraq titled: Hold On to Your Humanity an incredibly powerful and heart rentching letter.

<clips>

What has the response been to an organization of anti-war soldiers’ families?

Since I got out of the army in 1996, I’ve never seen anything catch fire like this. It sort of started out with that idiotic comment by George Bush in early July taunting the Iraqi guerrillas with the phrase “Bring ’em on.” I wrote a piece condemning that statement in Counterpunch and got thousands of responses to it. Forty percent of them were veterans or military families, and they overwhelmingly supported my criticism of Bush. This is especially impressive because a lot of military families feel that there is a risk in speaking out.

What are they afraid of?

Soldiers in uniform do not have the First Amendment freedom to criticize their superior officers about war-related matters, and that goes right up to the Commander-in-Chief. The families, of course, have their First Amendment freedom, but the reality is that the officer and enlisted personnel management systems control a soldier’s career, and they can be extremely subjective. One bad line in your file can ruin your career.

Why are we seeing such a movement among military families with this conflict?

We’re not saying bring the troops home because they’re suffering hardship and danger. Most soldiers know that hardship and danger are part of their job. What we’re saying is bring the troops home because they are facing hardship and danger in a war that is immoral and illegal.

The thing is, most of the kids that are over there believed what they were told, that they’d be greeted as liberators, like the allies marching into Paris. Instead it was like marching into Mogadishu. So now they and their families are asking why are they there subjecting themselves to 120 degree temperatures and daily attacks if don’t want them there?

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Mlitary_families_Goff_090503.htm


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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 02:39 PM
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13. unbelievable
Kick
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 04:46 PM
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15. Perhaps she can get her kid's face on a milk carton...
"Have you seen this woman? Last known whereabouts: under the control of the US Army, abetted by US politicians of both parties. If seen, please immediately do not bother contacting anyone - no elected official in America has the will or desire to save her."
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