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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 08:53 AM
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Taliban back, using Iraq-style violence

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061007/ap_on_re_as/afghanistan_another_iraq;_ylt=At_Q9SfEuMJO6RsPrXmm0_2s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Taliban back, using Iraq-style violence

By JIM KRANE, Associated Press Writer 40 minutes ago

KABUL, Afghanistan - A sweating man wanders into a crowd and blows himself up, leaving a dozen bodies lifeless on the street. A few blocks away, a car bomb pulverizes an armored Humvee, killing two U.S. soldiers and 14 civilians. The kind of anonymous insurgent violence that is convulsing Iraq has migrated 1,500 miles east to plague
Afghanistan five years after the U.S.-led invasion that toppled the Taliban regime.


The prospect of a second downward spiral — though so far Afghanistan isn't nearly as violent as Iraq — has experts worried that Western militaries don't have an effective strategy for these irregular wars.

"One Iraq is bad enough," said Bruce Hoffman, a counterinsurgency expert at Georgetown University. "Given that our two main theaters of operations aren't going well, one has to question how well the U.S. understands counterinsurgency."

The reborn Taliban acknowledges that it has adopted the suicide bombings, beheadings and remote-controlled bombs of the Iraqi insurgent movement. Nearly 200 civilians have been killed in suicide attacks this year that look all too much like the wave of bombings sweeping Iraq.
..........

Resemblances to Iraq don't stop there. Taliban public relations teams videotape attacks and post them online, an uncharacteristic venture into modern technology for a Muslim fundamentalist group that once banned cameras and computers.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 09:00 AM
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1. Others also learn efficient killing and maiming techniques well for
violence always begats violence, senseless killings always bebat senseless killings.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 10:26 AM
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2. I don't see any way to rationalize this
Published: September 13, 2006

Former detainees I met insisted that their defiance was provoked
not only by their despair over their uncertain futures but also
by unnecessarily harsh and arbitrary treatment from the guards.

"If people's basic human rights were respected, I don't think they
would have had any of these problems," said Abdul Salam Zaeef, a
former Taliban cabinet minister and ambassador to Pakistan who was
the pre-eminent leader of Afghan prisoners at Guantánamo before his
release in the late summer of 2005.
"There were no rules and no law. Any guard could do whatever they wanted to do."

"We thought maybe they were becoming softer in their policies," Zaeef
recalls. "Or we thought maybe they were trying to trick us. But we
thought that we should see which one it was."

When I met him in Afghanistan almost a year later, Zaeef still seemed
a bit uncertain about what had taken place.

He is an elegant, professorial man who wears wire-rimmed glasses
and the black silk turban favored by the Taliban.
He described the episode during two long interviews in the
well-guarded government guest house on the dusty outskirts of
Kabul, where he has lived since returning home last September.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/09/13/america/web.0913gitmo.php


Ex-Taliban envoy freed from Guantanamo - Afghan TV KABUL, Sept 12 (Reuters)
Abdul Salam Zaeef became the Taliban's spokesman after the
Sept. 11 attacks and held regular news conferences at his Islamabad embassy
at which he tried to convince the world the Taliban's guest, Osama bin Laden, was not responsible.



Condoleezza Rice Grants Visa To Hardcore Taliban
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=545986&mesg_id=545986


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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 11:20 AM
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3. does this means that Bush is training them over there......
so they will be more effective at killing us over here?
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 05:54 AM
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4. Salam Zaeef has also written a book in Pashto language titled
"Da Gunatanamo Anzor" (a picture of Gunatanamo)

ISI-Agencies pick up Afghan scholar, ex-Gitmo inmate
Detainee recently co-authored book titled

'Broken Chains of Guantanamo'

By Behroz Khan

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=3352

How does someone become an ex-terrorist, if you will, member of the Taliban?

ERELI:
" Put in simple English, I think what you can conclude from that is
-- well, if -- I don't know that if -- if he was indeed a member of
the Taliban, being a member of the Taliban, in and of itself, is not
-- was not necessarily and is not -- was not necessarily at the time,
given what he was doing and what -- he wanted to come to the United
States, a grounds for ineligibility."
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:00 AM
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5. Oh Ya --armoring the Humvees was really a good move
The IED's simply got bigger

Until You Tube cleansed its site of Iraqi Resistance Forces Video Clips,

The casual observer could see images of Humvees thrown a hundred feet STRAIGHT UP into the air
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