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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:24 AM
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Report refutes fraud at poll sites (most fraud occurs in absentee ballots)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-10-10-poll-fraud-report_x.htm

Report refutes fraud at poll sites

WASHINGTON — At a time when many states are instituting new requirements for voter registration and identification, a preliminary report to the U.S. Election Assistance Commission has found little evidence of the type of polling-place fraud those measures seek to stop.

USA TODAY obtained the report from the commission four months after it was delivered by two consultants hired to write it. The commission has not distributed it publicly.

At least 11 states have approved new rules for independent voter-registration drives or requirements that voters produce specific forms of photo ID at polling places. Several of those laws have been blocked in court, most recently in Arizona last week. The House of Representatives last month approved a photo-ID law, now pending in the Senate.

The bipartisan report by two consultants to the election commission casts doubt on the problem those laws are intended to address. "There is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling-place fraud, or at least much less than is claimed, including voter impersonation, 'dead' voters, non-citizen voting and felon voters," the report says.

The report, prepared by Tova Wang, an elections expert at the Century Foundation think tank, and Job Serebrov, an Arkansas attorney, says most fraud occurs in the absentee ballot process, such as through coercion or forgery. Wang declined to comment on the report, and Serebrov could not be reached for comment.

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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:55 AM
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1. Which is why I'm so opposed to mail-in voting
Polling places are protected by almost a century of laws, procedures and oversight to protect the integrity of the vote. Those are non-existant with mail-in ballots, making them much easier to subvert.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:04 AM
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2. Yes, like putting them in the trash can

Once I took my Absentee ballot to the Registrar's Office in a small town.

The lady saw me and said, just put it on the counter.

I asked her what would happen to it after that and she said,"we'll take care of it."

That's when I said, " No, I'll take care of it, I'll got to my polling place."
That was the 2000 election.

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LetsThink Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:15 AM
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3. But...Hard Working, Working Poor CAN NOT VOTE......
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 09:16 AM by LetsThink
.... often in the regular poll process, on election day. They have to work 12-hour days or more-- around here (Metro DC area) the commute is more than an hour each way. Add to that any child care stops, etc. The only realistic option for these people is an absentee ballot or -- fill out an absentee ballot to gain the right to vote in person at the local election office, before election day, when they can squeeze it into a crammed 15+ hour day. Some must vote by mail in order to vote at all. How else can we ensure these votes are counted?

With all the technology available today- and tech security options, it is impossible that we can not solve this elementary problem which is central to our country's philosophy.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:27 AM
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4. Just more proof these 'security measures' are NOT intended to stop fraud.
Since their own report shows that there is almost no
fraud there in the first place, there logically must
be some OTHER reason for their actions.
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