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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:18 PM
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Robert Kennedy Jr.: 'We Have A Negligent Press In This Country'
Media Bistro: Tuesday, Oct 24
Robert Kennedy Jr.: 'We Have A Negligent Press In This Country'

Robert Kennedy Jr. blasted everyone from polluters to politicians to the press today during a speech today at the American Magazine Conference in Phoenix that was, by his own admission, a long, rambling, passionate digression.

"We have a negligent press in this country," Kennedy Jr. said, one that has "let the American people down" by not covering what he called the "worst environmental White House we've ever had in history, bar none."...

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Kennedy Jr. said that media consolidation that began in the Reagan administration has devolved to a state where news divisions are "corporate profit centers." And he blamed the press for not getting the story of corrupt polluters out there, instead pandering to the "reptillian part of our brains."

"We know more about Tom and Katie than we do about global warming," Kennedy Jr. said. "We're the most entertained, least informed people in the world."

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/amc_2006/robert_kennedy_jr_we_have_a_negligent_press_in_this_country_46136.asp
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:20 PM
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1. YAPPA DAPPA dOOOOOOOOOOO
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:34 PM
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15. MUSIC TO OUR EARS!!!!! Thanks, Bobby! nm
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:23 PM
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2. Gosh, I love this young man!
"We know more about Tom and Katie than we do about global warming," Kennedy Jr. said. "We're the most entertained, least informed people in the world."


He does us AND his family legacy proud every time he speaks.

TC
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:23 PM
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3. It's not just negligence. It's CRIMINAL.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:30 PM
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18. Yes. And COMPLICIT.
Not “negligent”.

It’s like saying that bushco is “ineffectual” or “incompetent”.
No, they’re not. They’re criminal.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:49 PM
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19. WILLFUL compliance.
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:27 PM
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4. Exactly!
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 12:29 PM by cmt928
And this happens locally, statewide, countrywide and worldwide! Media is after ratings, not being the responsible watchdog as the free press was set up to be!

Instead of "investigating" what our government officials are voting on, and taking the time to find out how/why it will affect us, they sit at village, city, state, House, Senate meetings and TAKE NOTES and report that as news.

But they instead investigate whether a dodad on an informerical works, or if a restaurant is clean, or intice a guy to live out his fantasy for 25 days on the internet disguised as a 14 yr. old girl!

:wtf:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:28 PM
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5. Holy shit! Why has no one made this accusation before?
Oh, wait--everyone has. Thanks, Bobby, for pointing out what's been pointed out a brazillion times before.

Sure, it couldn't hurt to have another big name lodge a complaint, but it's not as though Bobby has had a revolutionary insight here.

Next, he'll caution us against the dangers of lead in housepaint.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:15 PM
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10. Well, my gosh, slurpdipity*
By your reasoning, we should all shut up about the * monster and let the pieces fall where they may.

Constant vigilance and speaking out bravely when everything is against you is the only way I personally know we can effect change. Of course, it doesn't work all the time; but the opposite is to sit on your hands and do nothing; which results in nothing getting done.

* "Slurpdipity" A person who slurps the koo laid; believes in serendipity and sits down when he should stand up. This is my own invented word. Does not belong to Colbert. Please feel free to use as needed.

By my own coin of phrase sir or madame, you're in the act of being slurpdipitous.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:21 PM
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11. Right, right
But the vibe in this thread, as in pretty much any thread about RFK Jr, is "thank god someone finally had the nerve to speak this truth," as though it hasn't been discussed repeatedly here, there, and everywhere.

Your coined accusation doesn't fit me, either; I'm not passively sitting down, nor am I advocating that anyone else do so. I'm just saying that Bobby is blazing no trail here, so let's not be over-eager to shower him with praise (again).

And "slurpdipitous" is a trifle too non-mellifluous for my comfort, so I won't likely be adding it to my lexicon. But thanks all the same.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:59 PM
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26. People started to take notice when RFK, Jr.'s
election fraud article was pubished in Rolling Stone Magazine. People listen to Kennedys.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:37 PM
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16. Most Dem leaders haven't
Most Dems in elected office are too afraid to forcefully and consistently criticize the news media. They're afraid it will come back to haunt them in some way. Problem is, they'll get attacked anyway, appeasement doesn't work.
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:28 PM
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6. I love Keith as much as the next guy, but he has to convince his producers ...
to stop making him cover so much crap. There is way too much that goes unreported and he has our attention! We are his audience and we all groan at some of the dumb stuff he is 'forced' to cover.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:35 AM
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43. Keith groans too, he hates doing those stupid infotainment stories!
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:41 PM
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57. I know, but I think Keith has more power then anyone realizes right now
himself included. I hope when he realizes it he changes his format to more news and less fluff.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:34 PM
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7. Go get 'em, Bobby

We know more about Tom and Katie than we do about global warming.

That sounds like a letter I wrote Newsweek many years ago complaining about their lack of coverage of important events during the Reagan years. I know more about Zsa Zsa Gabor's driving record than the shrinking of the middle class.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:52 PM
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8. This is why viewership has dropped steeply.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:53 PM
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9. These media conglomerates need to be
reined in...the government must resume its OVERSIGHT AND REGULATORY DUTIES!

I hope the new Democratic Congress will go after Murdoch 1/07. Journalism must become the pround profession it once was. I want the Fairness Doctrine reinstituted.
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Ammonium Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:04 AM
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47.  .
I tell you what, my TV has been unplugged for months. I couldn't tell you the last thing I watched on TV or even what channels ABC, NBC, ect are and I've never been better. There are plenty of ways to get information today without ever having to interact with a television.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:26 PM
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:31 PM
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13. I want elected DEMS saying this to Wolf Blitzers face, on camera.
And I want it now- no excuses. How much more bad things could they say about us if we call them on it?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:14 AM
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34. YES. Jon Stewart and Steve Colbert have both done it. It's time for the VICTIMS
to do the same.

Come to think of it, we are all victims of the willfull manipulations of our lazy-ass, complicit press.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:17 PM
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55. Blitzer used to work for 700 Club guy...FCC allowed this stuff via
corporate ownership to the excess and dropping 'fairness' doctrine etc. Clinton-era Telecom Act had much to do also, sad to say.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:32 PM
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14. I would use the word "complicit"
"negligent" implies a sin of omission or equal opportunity blundering.

We have a MSM that actively promotes the RW, pro-war, pro-business agenda, and that marginalizes, belittels or silences everything else.

That's not negligent, it's complicit.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:08 AM
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39. How about "cowed"?
They sure produce a lot of bullshit.

Newsprism
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:02 PM
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17. This is absolutely true. Gross Dereliction of Duty.
CRIMINAL Dereliction of Duty.

EVERYTHING they've allowed to happen by not reporting, covering up, sidetracking, distracting, and running off to TomKat-and-Britneyland makes them collaborators. The blood shed and the wreckage and chaos created by this miscreant White House is on the hands, heads, and consciences of our media people, also.

Because they were in a position to blow the whistle about it. And They Did NOTHING.

As our own Class Warrior would say: THEY KNEW. AND THEY DID NOTHING.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:14 PM
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20. His articles on voter fraud are excellent
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11717105/robert_f_kennedy_jr__will_the_next_election_be_hacked/print

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen/print

Interesting they said his voice cracked several times. He has spasmodic dysphonia which would cause his voice to crack frequently, though he is a passionate speaker.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:13 PM
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21. RFK Jr. for President!
:loveya: :yourock:

Thank you telling it like it is!
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:08 PM
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22. No kidding, why doesn't anyone ever say that instead of
Obama?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:01 AM
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46. The media & the powers that be control the message
and they want Obama.

I say don't let em get away with it!
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:11 PM
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53. A lot of people want him probably
just "because Oprah said". :eyes:
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:16 PM
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23. Yeah! RFK Jr. for President!!!
He should run! :applause:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:25 PM
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24. not negligent, co-opted
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:49 PM
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25. ah..the press...
....my favorite example of propaganda maestro extraordinaire...

Julius Streicher was sentenced to death by hanging at the Nuremberg Trial.
On October 16, 1946 , Streicher was executed.
    -It may be that Streicher is less directly involved in the physical commission of the crimes against Jews than some of his co conspirators. The submission of the Prosecution is that his crime is no less worse for that reason. No government in the world, before the Nazis came to power, could have embarked upon and it; into effect a policy of mass Jewish extermination in the way in which they did, without having a people who would back them and support them, and without having a large number of people who were prepared to carry out the murder themselves. (See Chapter XII on Persecution of the Jews.)

    -In its extent Streicher's crime is probably greater and more far-reaching than that of any of the other defendants. The misery which they caused ceased with their capture. The effects of this man's crime, of the poison that he has put into the minds of millions of young boys and girls goes on, for he concentrated upon the youth and childhood of Germany. He leaves behind him a legacy of almost a whole people poisoned with hate, sadism, and murder, and perverted by him. That people remain a problem and perhaps a menace to the rest of civilization for generations to come.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Streicher.html#Perversion%20of%20Youth
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:18 PM
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27. I would use the words complicit and "collusive". When the NYT withheld
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 10:19 PM by chill_wind
the WH NSA spy story from the American citizenry, that wasn't negligence.

Judith Miller wasn't "negligent".

Withholding and killing an investigative piece on the Bush 04 debate "bulgegate" just a few days before the election because "it was too close to the election" wasn't "negligent".......

(NYT, Bob Woodward- see Kos/ABC thread)


Determinedly ***refusing to cover*** the vast and filthy outrages of Florida 2000 and Ohio 04 wasn't "negligence"........
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:40 PM
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28. Complicit, collusive, criminal n\t
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:10 PM
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29. and traitorous
nt
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:56 AM
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30. We are the most entertained , least informed people in the
world. Yep I will have to agree. I asked a neighbor recently about their opinion of this countries direction. I said is it just me or do you see things are very wrong in this country? This person has a phd. Their response was that when they turned on MTV to do their exercise they saw lots of violence in the music videos. I was so disappointed that this persons expectation to be entertained while exercising was what they perceived as a point of discussion. Our soldiers are sitting ducks, Katrina victims homeless still, Federal reserve has been looted, elections stolen. Good lord, but this is one of my more enlightened neighbors.
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wageslave71 Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 05:47 AM
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31. This problem extends right down to local media...
here in NC. I moved from my hometown summer of '05, but my Dad keeps me informed of what's happening there. About a month ago at a festival, the political parties had tents set up to distribute literature and the candidates were out campaigning. The GOP incumbent sheriff had her (yes, the sheriff in this small NC town is a woman AND Republican) tent pitched across from the NAACP's. A reporter, who is fairly new to the area, working for the local newspaper was visting the NAACP tent when a sheriff's deputy in uniform walked over and spit tobacco into the tent and onto the NAACP banner. The reporter found this offensive and wrote a story about it to be printed in the local paper. As you might have guessed, she was told by the editor that they couldn't print something like that because the sheriff's dept. spends too much money with the paper to be offending them.
In '04, the same paper printed a letter to the editor that attacked the character of our Dem candidate for State House. The letter was attributed to a fictitious source. When I went to the paper's office and revealed this to the editor responsible for printing it, I was met with quite a bit of anger. They did, eventually, run a small paragraph explaining that it had been printed by mistake. By the way, I discovered that the letter had been faxed from a local church's office by the pastor.
After having the windows and lights busted out of two of my vehicles, my truck egged, my 6-yr old son told by his classmates that anyone voting for John Kerry "licks", my son's private school having Bush/Cheney campaign signs in the classrooms and office, and my rights trampled on in a bogus civil lawsuit involving Republican plaintiff, lawyers, and judge, I took my leave of there and don't give a damn about going back.
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Polesitter Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:05 AM
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32. Good that you left - DUers should not be putting their kids in
private schools anyway. It sends the message that public schools are not good enough for us.

If all prominent Dems pledged that their kids would go only to public schools and universities, the so-called "elite" private institutions would be exposed as the overpriced, breeding grounds for slugs that they are.

There is nothing as hypocritical as a politician who sings the praises of public education, as long as their kids don't have to go there.
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metamars Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:11 AM
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33. Putting the NY Times Out of Business (CNN, too)
The media does not deserve to be chided. It deserves to be put out of business.

I have posted a proposal on the Randi Rhodes show forum for replacing our current media with a new, sustainable media that facilitates the selection of "filtering agents". You can think of these as honest gatekeepers that YOU trust - and that keep out trivial information, rather than very important information that groups with economic and other hidden agendas prefer to hide from you.

Broadband access is now up to 42% in the US, so it is quite possible to target TELEVISION, which is how about 48% of Americans get 30+ minutes of news per day (as opposed to only about 9% over the internet). See http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=282

The thread is entitled: "Putting the NY Times Out of Business"
The thread is subtitled: "Proposal to replace ALL corrupt media"

Link:
http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?showtopic=76406

PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO ANYBODY WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:59 AM
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38. Thanks for your post, metamars -- and welcome to DU!
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metamars Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:51 PM
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65. Thanks!
It's worth pointing out (I hope), even though I already did so in my Randi Rhodes thread, that there's progress being made towards an independent and responsible online press. In particular, newassignment.net is looking for a way to coordinate citizen and professional journalism, as well as finding a way to pay for the pros*, and Apple announced iTV, which will help put an end to being constrained to watch only what a limited number of people decide you should have access to.

Another website to watch is craigblog: http://www.cnewmark.com/ (This is THE Craig of craigslist)

* My vision of remuneration, it seems, has a less limited structure which is better suited for part time players who have just as much credibility as pros, and furthermore will ease the transition from hobbyist/amateur to part-time professional to full-time professional. But hey, I didn't get a $100,000 grant from Reuters, so good for them. :-)
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:01 AM
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74. You are so damn right...I stop watching CNN because it was no better than FOX!
If I want to read the news I get on DU or online.
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metamars Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:53 AM
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75. CNN has been known to be a propaganda outlet since 1990
Democracy Now did an expose of CNN, which presented an overwhelming number of talking heads FOR American involvement in the Gulf War at a time when the country was split fairly evenly. (This was in the period of time leading up to the war.)

I don't even have a TV, but I understand where you're coming from from another point of view. I recently joined a gym where there are small TV's in much of the aerobic equipment, but the level of commercials was mind numbing. At one point, I flipped through all of the channels and it seemed like MOST of them were showing commericials. (I don't think it was top of the hour.)

But the reality is, most American DO have TV's, and that is where they are getting their news from. We CANNOT have a sane government unless real news and fair and balanced commentary is available on TV.

But doing this is certainly technically possible, and with Apple's announcement of iTV, we are that much closer to getting TV content from the internet.

Please take a look at my thread on the Randi Rhodes forum. If we simply depend on the fact that Americans are getting more and more of their news from the internet, I believe we're going to be disappointed. Even the gold-rush I forsee towards internet routed TV may turn out to be a disappointment, if there is not a COOPERATIVE, PROFITABLE business model which exploits it for the public good. It's quite obvious to me that there are enough public minded creative and activist types to pull off what I propose. What is not obvious is that there are sufficient evangelists and leaders of such an effort to direct developments firmly in the direction I outline.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:41 AM
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35. Well said, RFK Jr. Beware small planes.
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/amc_2006/robert_kennedy_jr_we_have_a_negligent_press_in_this_country_46136.asp

The Fuehrer likely wishes you dead. He has the resources and criminal friends to do it and he will have an alibi. Hell, Der Fuehrer controls the very law "enforcement" (a slippery term in totalitarian nations like Amerika) apparatus that will investigate the "accident".

Because you, RFK Jr., are too high profile with too famous a last name to be declared an unlawful enemy combatant and tossed into the camps with the rest of us.

As far as the Imperials are concerned, you have to go, and they have never once hesitated when they have needed a Kennedy dead before.

be careful, sir
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Ammonium Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:09 AM
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49. He should know
Teddy broke his back and almost died in a small plane crash.

JFK Jr's plane suddenly falls out of the sky with the fuel selector valve turned off, co-pilot seat missing, flight log damaged, black box battery malfunctioning. There was also a flight instructor on board if you follow the evidence trail. Then for shits and giggles, go look in any news paper archive and see where GWB was on that day. He was on the campaigne trail losing his ass to McCain and he all the sudden vanishes for 3 whole days, doesn't tell his campaine manager he just leaves. What do you make of that?
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schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:45 AM
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36. Thank you, Robert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Perry Mason Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:55 AM
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37. Add my vote to Complicit, not Negligent
One of my gravest concerns for America today is the absence of the free press that in the past enabled the citizenry to make informed decisions and understand the consequences of the actions of their elected representatives.

Today we have no representatives, those we elect (or at least those we are told we elected) are not representing us in any way, shape, or form; they are there to represent Corporate America.

This cannot be accomplished without the WILLING CRIMINAL COMPLICITY of the so-called "news" media. There are no Edward R. Murrow's today, no Walter Cronkite's to go brave the Vietnamese jungles and come back to tell the American people that their federal government is lying to them. Today's "news" is populated by a lot of empty headed spokes models who knowingly and willfully spread disinformation and cover up the criminal acts of their corporate backers and government officials. A typical "news"cast consists of a bit of propaganda and deliberate subterfuge, with the remainder of the time padded out with completely irrelevant non-news stories about celebrities wardrobe and sexual habits. It is shocking and disgraceful.

And one cannot even respect these rotters for at least having some ideological position, they merely go whichever way the wind blows. When (if) the Democrats regain power, the media will make it appear they have supported such representatives and legislation all along.

In most felony crimes, a person who has foreknowledge of the crime, makes no effort to prevent it from occurring and/or willingly participates in the concealment of said crime, is guilty of complicity and is often subject to equal criminal penalties as the individual who committed the actual crime.

The cast of CNN ought to be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes!
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:11 AM
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40. Hushpuppies are called hushpuppies because people used to fry up a
ball of dough and give it to the dogs to keep them quiet.

I call this press the Hushpuppy Press--they sit cowering at the feet of their Master hoping not to be thrown off the farm like the real watchdogs and awaiting the occasional hushpuppy that substitutes for red meat.

Newsprism
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:13 AM
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41. we already know that!!!!!!!!!!!
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:13 AM
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42. Most entertained, lease informed people in the world...that
just about covers it. Thank you, Robert, from the bottom of my heart.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:05 PM
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52. I would have to agree that statement reflects the Americans I meet.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:40 AM
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44. Kennedy for President 2008!
Now that is one candidate that would rock the political landscape.

and gets my vote.
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Ammonium Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:57 AM
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45. God Yes!
Give us a Kennedy again! JFK changed opened the door and RFK would have blown it right off it's hinges. JFK jr. would have been an amazing leader too!
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:15 PM
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54. Yeah, JFK Jr. would have been cool too! n/t
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:32 PM
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63. You BET he would! He'd get mine, too. But they would kill him.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:06 AM
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48. Kick for this and the excellent replies on this thread, also!
:kick:
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:14 AM
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50. Hell Yes!
The environment, which includes many different important issues, is actually perhaps the most important issue for the world today, yet it's often not even in the top TEN issues that voters and/or politicians are even TALKING about. It's pathetic.
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:27 AM
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51. Everyone who listens knows this. Then the Nancy Grace watchers
diddle themselves.
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:28 PM
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56. Bullseye ........ ever since the debacle of the 2004 exit polling
being declared 'flawed' by Brokaw as Dubyha's numbers kept coming in higher in state after state than exit polls predicted I have not watched a mainstream news broadcast in its entirety. When something used by our State Department to help certify election results in 'third world' countries is declared flawed in the good ol' USA on National Television ALL CREDIBILITY IS LOST imo.


:hurts:
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:59 PM
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58. Corporations continue to slowly poison us all.. When will we wake up? n/t
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 01:06 PM
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59. We don't have a press in this country.
Most big cities used to have several daily newspapers. Now the surviving papers are floundering. The managers try to compensate by laying off more reporters and the paper becomes more irrelevant. The three major networks have gutted their new staffs and re continuing to do so. It costs money to really cover the news. It's a lot cheaper to run fluff and call it news.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 01:14 PM
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60. Durn didn't catch it in time to recommend-well kick anyway
If Gore doesn't run, I wish there was a chance in hell RFK could win and did run.

Seriously, its the environment stupid!
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 01:19 PM
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61. Name any aspect of American life: education? Worst P ever. Health care?
WPE. Transportation? WPE. Natural disasters? WPE. You name it, our "gubmint" has screwed it up. ENOUGH!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:09 PM
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62. Our "press" is too busy worrying about their shareholder value.....
and their juicy Corporate tax breaks from the Republicans to do any REAL investigative reporting anymore. With the deregulation of media holdings came "belt tightening" and the first thing to go was investigative journalism. There just wasn't enough money in the budget to send reporters around the States, let alone the world. Nope, shareholder value had to be increased and all of those little "extras" like REAL journalism had to be cut.
The launching of USA Today was also a nail in the media's coffin. USA Today shrank real news down into tasty little "News McNuggets" that the harried citizens of our country could count on to give them just enough news to keep from being a slobbering idiot, but not enough to really educate them about the events taking place here and around the world.
"Headline News" was also a nail in the coffin of respectable journalism. It too, reduced our information into bite-sized pieces, just enough to keep our minds from going totally numb. 24 Hour News Channels did the same thing differently (if that makes sense). They gave you multitudinous information about a few things, but it was the same old information repeated over and over again, ad nauseum, until you thought blood was going to spurt from your ears and eyes. 24 hour coverage of THE SAME THING! Yeah, we really needed that! :eyes:
A little information is a dangerous thing. It makes people believe they have the information needed to make the correct decisions about our country's present and future.
You have to hand it to the Republicans. They were the first to recognize this (indeed, they actually created it) and thus began the "dumbing down" of America. They created a "need" (News McNuggets) and a delivery system (our current media conglomerates) to fulfill that need and they've reaped the benefits of their creation.
Funny thing though, a FEW people (mostly Democrats), discovered that "News McNuggets" are pure bullshit. They're tasteless, nutrition-less little pieces of pure unadulterated bullshit that have absolutely no value when trying to discover the truth about an issue.

Hopefully, Robert Kennedy Jr. is our nation's wake-up call. Hopefully, he can rouse the rest of America from it's "News McNugget" induced coma and actually DO something about it. Hopefully.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:33 PM
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64. is this it?
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MikMouse Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:14 AM
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66. It is not just the media
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 03:25 AM by MikMouse
Corporations and corporate wealth have been at the throat of
democracy since before the Civil War (Industrial
North/Agrarian South). They moved on to become "Robber
Barons", then the wage slavery of Sinclair Lewis, et al.
and the gross excesses that caused the Great Depression. Every
time their excesses destroy the American economy in the end.
This time it will be no different.

We will soon see the extreme pain that their currently
unlimited power and wealth will cause. The result will be an
overwhelming public revulsion and rejection of everything
"corporate" including the Republican Party and the
Corporate Democrats that cheer them on. 

A great way to stop them from doing it again is a
Constitutional Amendment specifically banning corporate
"personhood". Corporations are not people. They
have NO right to free speech. No right to donate to political
campaigns or candidates. None whatsoever. They have no right
to hire lobbyists. 

The amendment must also strip the corporations of their
current right to eternal life and its natural eternal
accumulation of wealth. Wealth is power and no matter what
"We the people" do to rule or regulate
corporations, if they are allowed eternal life and eternal
wealth they will eventually overwhelm any and all legal
restraints and we will find ourselves right back where we are
today. Corporations must "die" at some point. Their
assets redistributed. Their stockholders paid off in a
tax-free distribution.

I honor and cheer the entrepreneurs like Bill Gates who
created Microsoft, the Watson's who created IBM and look
forward to those whose miracle drugs, inventions and ideas
create the next super-Corporations. But neither they, nor the
next winners can be allowed to perpetrate that extreme wealth
for ever. Spreading it around gives thousands, if not
millions, of people their own chance to build their own
American Dream. 

Concentrating that wealth into the hands of fewer and fewer
people simply because their parents or grandparents made
billions undermines the very idea of personal success and
individual achievement. Put simply the inheritance tax needs
to be part of the Constitutional Amendment. Some kind of
indexed rate exempts the first $10 million. A sliding scale
then kicks in to make sure that excessive wealth does not
create an American Nobility while insuring that the progeny
of those who strike it rich live at the top of the economic
pie for those who do not blow it away.

Let us make America the capitalist's land of both equality
and equity.



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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:18 AM
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67. Wow! I liked that. Very well said. It is exactly what we need.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:25 PM
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68. That is why all the kewl kidz read the British press: Guardian, Observor, Indy, etc.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:32 PM
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69. "We're the most entertained, least informed people in the world."
Amen, brother!

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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:50 PM
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70. That's absolutely rich!!!
The most entertained, least informed people in the world. Olberman, Stewart, and Franken together couldn't come up with something that good.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 12:48 AM
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72. You would enjoy
The wonderful rant by Mad Donkey at:

http://www.algaeawards.com
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 11:00 PM
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71. Kick. There are so many great posts on DU these days,
I can hardly keep up.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:47 AM
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73. You are 100% correct Bobby. The Press has let America down...down the toilet!
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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 05:04 PM
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76. News media??
What news media?? That went the way opf the dinosauer in about 1994. what we have now is glorified infomercials
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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 02:38 AM
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77. Bobby, one of the few voices left
We need more like him...
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:03 AM
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78. That's so true
He and Mike Pap give me fuel.

Of course, I think he's being measured by merely calling the media negligent. I bet he'd have a coarser term or two in a one-on-one talk.
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