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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 08:04 AM
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Mexico riot police retreat as violence flares
By Noel Randewich

OAXACA, Mexico (Reuters) - Thousands of protesters hurling rocks and Molotov cocktails forced riot police using tear gas and water cannons to retreat on Thursday as clashes spiraled out of control in Mexico's tourist city of Oaxaca.

At least 10 police were seriously injured and many demonstrators suffered beatings and burns in the running battles in streets around a university that has been a flashpoint during months of leftist protests in the city.

To control the protests to demand that Oaxaca's state governor Ulises Ruiz step down, President Vicente Fox sent thousands of federal police to take over the city last weekend. The five-month-long conflict has killed over a dozen people.


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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 08:43 AM
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1. The people of Mexico are our teachers. They put us to shame.
This is why we are all responsible for what our government does, because we aren't out in the streets like our Mexican brothers and sisters...
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:02 AM
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2. Bingo
We should have been building barricaides in DC since 2000.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:16 PM
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24. And if they steal the election electronicially, I am sure we will be in the streets.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:23 PM
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25. Oh, bullshit
If they ran their election properly in the first place, this would not be happening.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:08 AM
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3. What brave people! And we want to keep Mexicans out of America?
They could save our Constitution.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:11 AM
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4. I'm afraid SOMEONE is going to have to...
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:17 AM
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7. I just hope this story doesn't dissapear again
After seeing that footage Bradly Will shot, I can't erase it from my mind.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:16 AM
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5. Uh what happened to peaceful protestors, overreacting govt?
Or is that no longer operative as they say?
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 10:10 AM
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6. They were responding to helicopters shooting teargass as invasion
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 10:11 AM by gorbal
That was taken to be an invasion and then the protestors and police began to exchange projectiles for six hours. From what I hear the police surrounded the university, then protestors surrounded the police and the police were eventually allowed to retreat. There are still people missing, many wounded including a man with a crushed skull and a unclaimed baby.

Sure I guess they could have laid down, in ghandi-like obedience and let the police take over their radio station, I wonder what the headlines would be todayif that happend.

Oh now there are shots being fired at the university again, check out the frequently updated transliteration of appo radio-

http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:13 PM
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17. you think they're not entitled to defend themselves? around Nov 1st?
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 01:14 PM by anotherdrew
when the so-called 'police' have already shot and murdered people, AND when it's around November 1st?

it's the anniversary of the Mexican government murdering 400 or more students and workers in '68, they then covered it up and lied about it for four decades
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 04:06 PM
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18. I won't celebrate the govt provoking violence... and succeeding.
Now the violent protests indict the whole movement from the start and suggest that the police went in because the protesters were violent from the start, not only violent after the cops arrived backed up by soldiers.

I don't pretend to know the truth of the matter but, that's how it looks. If they wanna defend themselves, they can try and suffer the consequences.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 04:31 PM
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20. They were shot dead in the streets of Oaxaca last Friday...

photo from IndyMedia
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:17 PM
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8. This is a shining example.
Oaxaca is a good example of democracy in action. Sometimes the people must assert their sovereignty through alternative means. Progressives in this country should take note.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:25 PM
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26. Let's not forget how this situation came to be
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 06:28 PM by slackmaster
The election was so badly botched that large numbers of people believe the official result to be fraudulent.

Remember the whole boxes of ballots found in dumpsters? The boxes with more ballots than registered voters in their respective precincts?

There were massive security lapses, and things have gotten so mixed up there is no way to go back and determine what the actual result should have been. Too much information has been lost.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:33 PM
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9. "The five-month-long conflict has killed over a dozen people." Not.
Conflicts don't kill people. People kill people. And in this case, the people doing the killing--all of the killing--were state governor Ruiz's paramilitary assassins, and the victims have all been peaceful protesters, supporting the TEACHERS UNION strike, and protesting Ruiz's brutal midnight assault on striking teachers, who were camping out, last June.

This deceitful passive language--that the "conflict killed people"--is commonly used by corporate news monopolies to MISREPRESENT and SLANDER peaceful protest. I've seen it time and again, and I've seen it in the case of this FIVE-MONTH-LONG ENTIRELY PEACEFUL protest. They characterize the PROTEST as violent, when ALL the violence has come from Ruiz's paramilitaries.

Just as in Seattle 1999--where 50,000 people PEACEFULLY shut down the WTO meeting--the Corporate Rulers WANT to be able to characterize any protest against Corporate Rule and the super-rich as "violent" so they provoke people beyond endurance. In the case of Seattle, they were tearing gassing thousands of peaceful SEATED protesters (in the street intersections), with tear gas HOSES aimed directly into peoples' faces, along with beatings and shootings with rubber bullets, all day long--for eight hours (I was there, I saw it)--before any disorder broke out, and then it was people NOT connected to this massive protest who began burning trash cans and breaking windows downtown. (The protesters tried to stop them!) That night, on the Corporate news, what do they start off with? A foot kicking a window. Not a word about the day long police riot, which by that time had spread into unrelated neighborhoods, with tear gassings and beatings--they even beat up a Seattle City Councilman--with the police completely out of control. All this came out later in city hearings (the police chief was forced to resign), but of course the Corporate news monopolies never undid the slander against the protesters.

In Oaxaca, the FEDERALES have turned FIVE MONTHS of entirely peaceful protest into a melee. Is it any wonder that students are angry--and throwing rocks and "molotov cocktails" (IF that is even occurring)--under brutal federal assault with more innocent people being shot dead, and hundreds injured? And who knows who these rock/"molotov cocktail" throwers are, in such a situation? There are always a few firebrand youngsters around who can lose control under assault, or agents provocateur who are paid to do something like that, to give the police an excuse for more violence, and to EXONERATE the police from the violence they have already committed.

Who has the guns? Who has the rifles? Who has the helicopters? Who has the tear gas hoses? WHO is shooting people, and beating people, and destroying this amazing peaceful protest?

The Oaxaca protests were entirely orderly, and lawful, and quite disciplined--even when their members were being kidnapped or killed--until now. The Fox/Calderon federal military has disrupted this massive peaceful protest in exactly the way they needed to, to slander the protest as violent and disorderly. They have come in on the side of the Ruiz death squads! It is disgusting.

And the Corporate news monopoly reporting about it is even more disgusting! How can you have a democracy without a free press?

The Corporate news monopolies are LYING to you--in subtle ways and gross ways. They are on the side of MONEY, and EXPLOITATION, and WAR. There are NO reports by these agents of privilege that can be trusted. For alternative news, direct from Oaxaca, try www.NarcoNews.com.

Shame on you, Reuters! Shame on you, Noel Randewich! Shame on you for "the conflict has killed over a dozen people" and all your other lies!

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:57 PM
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15. You speak the truth. Well written ! n/t
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:12 PM
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22. Very well stated. Thanks.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:37 PM
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10. La Jornada reporting street blockades in Mexico City
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:14 PM
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23. Gracias.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:42 PM
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11. ¡Viva Oaxaca!
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:42 PM
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12. kick n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:44 PM
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13. Bravo to these Brave Mexicans
They will win.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:57 PM
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14. Shame on you, Reuters! Shame on you, AP! Shame on you all!
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A Call to Readers North of the Border to Support Narco News

By Sean Donahue
Narco News School of Authentic Journalism, Class of 2004

November 3, 2006

Dear friends,

Several years ago I remember a prominent Colombian human rights activist say that his fallen compañeros had been killed twice—once by bullets and once by the silence of a world that never acknowledged their lives and their deaths.

Those words have been with me in these past few days as I’ve read the Narco News Bulletin’s coverage of the murders of Jorge Alberto López Bernal, Brad Will, Fidel García, Alejandro Garcia Hernandez, Emilio Alfonso Fabián, and Esteban López Zurita and the arrests, beatings, torture, and disappearances carried out by police and paramilitaries in their brutal and futile attempt to crush the uprising in Oaxaca. Because of the Narco News Bulletin, the world knows how these brave people died fighting for dignity, democracy, and justice.

And throughout the uprising in Oaxaca and the Zapatista Other Campaign, the Narco News Bulletin has brought people stories of courage and resistance from Mexico to the world, reawakening hope in the hearts of those who have considered this empire invincible—just as the newspaper did during the revolutions in Bolivia and Ecuador and the popular movement to reverse the coup in Venezuela.

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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 05:43 PM
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21. killed twice—once by bullets and once by the silence of a world that never acknowledged their lives
Thank you for this excellent article, Peace Patriot!

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!


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MadJohnShaft Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:10 PM
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16. Brad Will was a close personal friend of my wife
We're going to his funeral on Monday. Sad days for us lately.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 04:21 PM
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19. I am so sorry for your loss! Please know, and convey to your wife and
to his family, that Brad's incredible courage has been deeply inspiring to many people, and that his work as a journalist was critically important to the truth about Oaxaca reaching all of us here at DU, and the rest of the world. It has been very difficult to get information about Oaxaca. Brad was THERE for us--one of a tiny group of people willing to risk their lives to tell the story of the Oaxacans' amazing protest! And now "THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!"

Blessings and prayers to you and to Brad's family! Know that his spirit lives! The spirit of truth, the spirit of justice!
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 08:58 PM
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27. I second this sentiment strongly
Also Radio APPO is back on the air and net
after sporadic interruptions due to tech problems

See thread in GD for streams
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