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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:33 PM
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GOP furious about timing of Rumsfeld resignation
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/110906/rumsfeld2.html

Donald Rumsfeld's abrupt resignation from the Pentagon the day after Republicans lost both chambers of Congress has infuriated some GOP officials on and off Capitol Hill.

Members and staff still reeling from Tuesday's rout are furious about the administration's decision to dump the controversial defense secretary one day after their historic loss, they said in a series of interviews about the election results.

President Bush announced Rumsfeld's resignation on Wednesday and named Bob Gates, a former CIA chief and president of Texas A&M University, as his replacement.

"The White House said keeping the majority was a priority, but they failed to do the one thing that could have made a difference," one House GOP leadership aide said Thursday. "For them to toss Rumsfeld one day after the election was a slap in the face to everyone who worked hard to protect the majority."

<snip>

"They did this to protect themselves, but they couldn't protect us?" another Republican aide said yesterday.

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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:34 PM
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1. Suckers!
:nopity:
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 02:34 AM
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27. GOP, want a used tube of vaseline? It's your turn now.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:00 AM
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45. I'll actually pop for a fresh tube of Astroglide for each GOP Congress Critter...
Might be an neato project...Nes ne pas?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:22 AM
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49. The ascent of the CHIMP
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:36 PM
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2. you still don't know bush, do you guys?
he's a stinker. you didn't notice?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:51 PM
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11. And if you guys have a brain
now is the time to shove it up bush's ass.

you guys = the dumb ass republicans
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:39 PM
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3. Bush finds unique ways to stab his friends in the back...that goes for the GOP too
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:23 AM
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24. yes, he really screwed rummy on this
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 04:20 PM
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59. Yes...RummytheDummy got the "BIG FAT SHAFT" up the ass!
Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 04:21 PM by Tight_rope
And a well deserved Shaft at that! May many other Repuke's get a shaft or 2!
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:07 PM
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52. When Smirky makes a point of supporting you
You're toast.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:39 PM
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4. Looks like they hitched their wagons
to the wrong star. Sucks to be them.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 02:10 PM
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58. Wagons hitched to Bush's star...
wheels fall off, catches fire, explodes, vaporizes, leaves a thin dusting of ash.

Just ask Berlusconi, Aznar, Blair....it's a long list of ruined people.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:40 PM
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5. They trade the Tree of Liberty for a Bush,
and then they complain about the lack of shelter?

:shrug:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:23 AM
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19. Oh, good one.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:09 AM
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46. snap!
eloquent snap, even!
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:55 PM
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55. Excellent !!!!!
I only wish for 1/100th of the smarts our founding father's had. They were truly giants, these guys are nothing more than pygmys (no offense to pygmys). Warts on the ass of humanity one and all.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 04:33 PM
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60. Thanks! Best way to describe this whole thing...nicely!
I choose to describe it in that nasty way that it is....THEY GOT THE BIG FAT SHAFT UP THE ASS WITH RUMMYTHEDUMMY! :beer: :rofl: :applause:
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:40 PM
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6. HA HA
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California Griz Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:40 PM
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7. It's a good thing for us he didn't fire him earlier
We wouldn't have gotten the Senate if he fired Rumsfeld earlier. I always thought Bush was not as stupid as some people made him out to be. Obviously I was mistaken.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:02 AM
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14. I think he was truly shocked by the election outcome
and broke down to ask his father for advice.

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:22 AM
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31. Like the one about "read my lips"
In a lot of ways, I don't think Poppy was any great tactician either :shrug:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 07:52 AM
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36. He probably broke down and asked James Baker for advice.
Mr. Fixer.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:02 AM
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40. Poppy was no great tactician, but
he knew better than to storm into Baghdad. And while he's mostly out of touch with what life is like for anyone earning less than $600,000 a year; he's a model of compassion compared to Junior.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 07:52 AM
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35. I think so, too,
GoddessOfGuinness.

He didn't dump Rumsfeld because the man behind the curtain, Dick Cheney, didn't want him to. After such a stunning defeat, he turned away from the man behind the curtain to Poppy. There was a rumor that Poppy had wanted Rumsfeld gone a long time ago.

I think the rest of *'s term will have more of a Bush 41 influence and less of a Darth Cheney influence.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:05 AM
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41. I hope you're right...
Of course, I'd prefer more of a Dean influence, myself :D; but any improvement is better than none.

Love the kitty, by the way!
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:54 AM
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43. Thank you!
She's my baby. :hi:
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:20 PM
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53. I believe it.
I've read Poppy thinks Rummy is a whacko from way back & should have never been Secretary of Defense, or anything else.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 02:52 AM
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29. Yeah, really.
We might have lost some of the close races if chimp had fired Dumsfeld a few days ago. God, Chimp is a complete and total IDIOT! :silly:
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:41 PM
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8. The MSM... the guys like Tweety
have pushed the propaganda that the Republican Party is a well oiled machine, everyone in lockstep, while the dems are like a open box of kittens, each doing their own thing.

Well, now we know what happens when the well oiled political machine gets a few grains of sand in the gearbox.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:17 AM
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21. An overused machine will break
Looks like that's what happened here.

Doesn't help that Fate threw a double-handful of sand into the gearbox.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:41 PM
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9. they should be glad
they can distance themselves from the war crimes suit that Germany is now preparing against Rumsfeld!

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15551.htm

:dem: :kick:

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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:49 AM
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42. Rumsfeld isn't enough.
Hersh pointed out, as well as others, I'm sure, that the boy king knew about the torture - he needs to be brought up on charges of "crimes against humanity" and be tried too.
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proudlibal Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:49 PM
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10. BOO HOO
Oh cry me a fucking river. Boo Hoo Hoo they couldn't protect us boo hoo hoo!! :cry:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:56 PM
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12. "They did this to protect themselves, but they couldn't protect us?"
Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 12:08 AM by rocknation
The official GOP epitaph.

This confirms my suspicions--Rummy's disposal was a weapon of mass diversion. I also suspect that the letters in those military papers were planted.

Had the election maintained the status quo, I'm sure Rummy would still be employed--indeed, George probably would have publicly denounced the letters in Rummy's defense. But the Dem victory presented two problems: how to get the national media to stop covering it, and how to "assure" the Dems (and the people who voted them in) that George has leadership qualities and isn't inflexible.

Aside from that, I have to ask: "Are they REALLY that naieve?" Don't those GOP aides know that the Rethugs are ALL ABOUT protecting themselves and not their "little people?" Didn't they notice how quickly Mark Foley, Kenneth Blackwell, Katherine Harris, and the guy who ran against Lieberman and Lamont were disposed of when they didn't serve their leadership's purposes? Yet they STILL didn't know what they should expect? Cue the DU "Cry Me A River" String Quartet!

:nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity:
rocknation
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:11 AM
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20. "Hard to believe, we know" say the people of New Orleans.
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uncertainty1999 Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:51 AM
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26. heh, heh - where's all that 'personal responsibility' they love so much??
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:52 AM
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39. The Elephant flies above the Eagle
Gee, they're only now noticing that the Bush administration places its own political considerations above everything else? How many people, military and civilian, have died in Afghanistan and Iraq to cover for this administrations errors, miscalculations and blunders? How many people have been ignored, silenced or tortured in the name of political expediency?

Bummer, guys. Your political leader is a sociopath. Welcome to our world of the last half dozen years.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 02:03 PM
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56. Only Dumbo can fly lighter and higher

GOP's in action
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:00 AM
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13. Personally, I think it was deliberate
I don't think he was given a choice. I think the 'real' powers that be wanted a house cleaning. Bush was in a hole so deep there was no way out and he just kept digging. I think he's had his wings clipped and the 'big boys' have taken over.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:02 AM
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15. Loyalty is always a one way street for the Decider
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:04 AM
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16. The RNC got punked
Now they know how america feels.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:05 AM
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17. It's always distressing to be thrown under the bus. nt
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:05 AM
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18. I love the smell of internecine war in the morning.
The ultimate wedgie for Karl Rove.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:21 AM
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22. Hey CONS, it SUCKS TO BE YOU - n/t
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:22 AM
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23. I was surprised by it myself; it was very unceremonious too
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:44 AM
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25. Face it, you guys got screwn.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 02:44 AM
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28. Pardon me, GOP, but I just can't help myself.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:12 AM
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30. Oh god.. Gates is another scary Texas/CIA guy....
what IS it with those people? Florida and Texas and the CIA. I'd hate to know all their dirty secrets...
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 07:13 AM
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32. August 3rd: Hillary grills Rummy in hearing.
It was a pre-emptive strike. How could Bush fire Rummy after that w/o looking weak. Hillary is no dummy.

"Mr. Secretary, we're glad you're here. In your opening statement, you referenced the common sense of Americans. Well, I think it's fair to say that that collective common sense overwhelmingly does not either understand or approve of the way you and the Administration are handling Iraq and Afghanistan. Under your leadership there have been numerous errors in judgment that have led us to where we are in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have a full fledged insurgency and full blown sectarian conflict in Iraq. Now, whether you label it a civil war or not, it certainly has created a situation of extreme violence and the continuing loss of life among our troops and of the Iraqis. You did not go into Iraq with enough troops to establish law and order. You disbanded the entire Iraqi army, now we're trying to recreate it. You did not do enough planning for what is called Phase IV and rejected all the planning that had been done previously to maintain stability after the regime was overthrown. You underestimated the nature and strength of the insurgency, the sectarian violence, and the spread of Iranian influence."
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 07:27 AM
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33. Y'all better get used to being furious..
.. because if THAT pisses you off wait until we take over :)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 07:38 AM
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34. GOP furious
'Me' happy:D
Come on canibals devour yourselves. I'm loving it.:party: :toast: :bounce:
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poofer Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:27 AM
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37. Fake war
Maybe they will be furious enough to spill a few good beans about how fake going into war was etc. At least * is good for something after all! A traitor to his own party.
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:30 AM
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38. Earth to former Republican Majority...you're just soldiers.
And if you don't know what kind of harm the president is willing to put soldiers in for absolutely made up reasons, see Iraq.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:55 AM
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44. te he. jr. is sure starting off on a good foot-seen as betraying his party
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:13 AM
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47. Hmm, a few angry defectors woud come in handy for impeachment.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:20 AM
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48. "They did this to protect themselves, but they couldn't protect us?"
There is no "us" in "I". Someday these disposable water carriers will come to understand that moron* and his room full of dopes care nothing about them. Or have for any of us for that matter for the past 6 years.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:24 AM
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50. Dear Republican Aide: Bush wasn't on your side.
> "They did this to protect themselves, but they couldn't
> protect us?" another Republican aide said yesterday.

Dear Republican Aide: Bush and the NeoCons aren't on your side,
they're on their own side. You were just another willing fool
in helping the BFEE make off with the treasury.

Tesha
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:06 PM
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51. * only cares about * - you all deserve him and whatever else he does to you these next 2 yrs.
recommended
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 01:48 PM
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54. Filed in the...
Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 01:49 PM by AnneD
"I hate to be right" file. I tried to tell folks before he ran for Governor of Texas. Imagine dumping Ann Richards for that POS. The gene pool for neocns are getting more and more shallow.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 02:05 PM
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57. LESSON LEARNED, DICKWADS
THEY DON'T GIVE A F*** WHAT YOU THINK ANY MORE THAN THEY GIVE A F*** WHAT *WE* THINK.....
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 04:34 PM
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61. Others are likely grateful
To have both a reason and an active step toward dismantling Bush's disastrous domination of the party. Expect more of the same as junior ambles dizzily through the wreckage tossing cronies to the wolves. There is no lame duck in history so vulnerable by dint of lack of personal attributes. And never has a party been so incapacitated by subservience so disgraceful to the act of gutting the Constitutional power of Congress down to the management of their campaigns.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 04:34 PM
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62. ........
:nopity:
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