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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 07:45 PM
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Bush aide: 'We have not failed in Iraq'
Dec 3, 2006

WASHINGTON - While President Bush acknowledges the need for major changes in Iraq, he will not use this week's Iraq Study Group report as political cover for bringing troops home, his national security adviser said Sunday.

"We have not failed in Iraq," Stephen Hadley said as he made the talk show rounds. "We will fail in Iraq if we pull out our troops before we're in a position to help the Iraqis succeed."

But he added: "The president understands that we need to have a way forward in Iraq that is more successful."

The White House readied for an important week in the debate over Iraq: Bush planned a meeting Monday with Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, the Shiite leader of the largest bloc in Iraq's parliament, and awaited the recommendations Wednesday from the bipartisan commission.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061203/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq


I'd like to read this jerk's definition of failure.



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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 07:50 PM
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1. this sums up george bush
"Allah does not change what has befallen people until they change what is in themselves"
- Holy Quran
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:41 AM
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25. but President Peter Pan loves to float in his LASSEIZ FAIRYLAND!
President Peter Pan loves to snort so much fairy dust that he flies up up up in the sky in his LASSEIZ FAIRYLAND where everything goes his way.

I swear, it will take a century to undo the shit the Nazi Republican Party has inflicted on us!
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 07:56 PM
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2. Though I doubt the ISG report will be earth shattering, sure sounds like the Admin is
circling the wagons. What puzzles me though is their insistence on obviously tired "progress is being made, spreading democracy" memes. They're just making the politically strategic withdrawal that seems inevitable more difficult and I find it hard to believe they're going to try a last ditch military effort in the midst of the armed anarchy. Maybe I'm missing something in all the spin. :shrug:
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:03 PM
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5. When they say "we", they are not including you and me
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 08:04 PM by Art_from_Ark
They are referring to their cadre of cronies who have profited, and are continuing to profit, very handsomely from all this mess.
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kevin881 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:53 PM
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8. you speak the truth. -nt
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:42 PM
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9. I think Bush and his shrinking circle of supporters, truly believe their rhetoric, imho.
Seriously. They have fashioned this fiasco into a world view of "democracy at the end of a gun" which would somehow inspire the Middle East to follow suit.

Obviously, someone missed the chapter that there are other world views based on similar, short sighted armed movements. Intractable confrontation would seem inevitable.

In any event, don't discount the Administration's true believer extremism, concurrent to the profit motives enmeshed in the whole scenario.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:04 PM
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14. I am convinced that they know it's bullshit
At least, most of them do. They know it's not about democracy or freedom, because they have been doing their best to destroy those things at home. They know it was never about weapons of mass destruction, because they know it would have been impossible for the most bombed, the most sanctioned, the most surveilled country in the world for the 12 years prior to the invasion to have come anywhere near getting the military capability they were attributing to Saddam. They are just spouting the things they know Americans want to hear, and will feel good about.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:29 PM
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16. Good point. I agree somewhat, they *must* know it's a crock.
And their assaults on the Constitution have to have given them some qualms...The only rationale I can fathom is they believe the BS, come hell or high water.

They're not all crazy, it's not all about the money, imo, there's some blind faith lock step that's been going on at the upper/mid level bureaucracy, across the board - domestic and international. That's really what I'd like to see snipped - Bush is gone in 2 years, as is Cheney, but their "coup de bureau" could last years if unchecked.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:30 AM
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24. If they don't know it's a crock, then they are certifiable and
should be drug out of every damn government building and put somewhere where they can't do anymore damage.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:00 PM
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3. Double talk.....
....Ambiguous talk, or talk that seems relevant but is really meaningless, especially as offered up by politicians.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:02 PM
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4. We have not failed, we have failed miserably
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PerceptionManagement Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:10 PM
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6. Hee hee! This is like Nixon saying, "I'm NOT a criminal!!"
Well, yea he was. And this headline might as well of said: Bush Aide: We've FAILED in Iraq!
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alterfurz Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 08:56 AM
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26. exactly!-- way beyond mere failure...
...I believe the official military terminology is "FUBAR"
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:16 PM
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7. living in denial is their reality, god, it's disgusting
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:57 PM
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10. White House on defensive over Iraq memos
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061204/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq



White House on defensive over Iraq memos
By BEN FELLER

WASHINGTON - While President Bush acknowledges the need for major changes in Iraq, he will not use this week's Iraq Study Group report as political cover for bringing troops home, his national security adviser said Sunday.

"We have not failed in Iraq," Stephen Hadley said as he made the talk show rounds. "We will fail in Iraq if we pull out our troops before we're in a position to help the Iraqis succeed."

But he added: "The president understands that we need to have a way forward in Iraq that is more successful."

The White House readied for an important week in the debate over Iraq: Bush planned a meeting Monday with Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, the Shiite leader of the largest bloc in Iraq's parliament, and awaited the recommendations Wednesday from the bipartisan commission.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:57 PM
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11. "the president understands"
why are people always saying that? NO HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:57 PM
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12. it mattered not who asked what, when, where, how, or why,
Hadley had his lines memorized and imprinted inside his eyelids, and he stayed precisely on message, word for word, as though repetition would make him more honest and accurate.

Listening to a spinster puppet like Hadley makes my stomach turn after a while.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:03 PM
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13. Yah and Nixon said he was not a crook. Saying it doesn't make it so.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:23 PM
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15. Actually
yeah, you have.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:39 AM
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17. Yeah right....
...and the 1937 landing of the Hindenburg was a great success, too.

Shesh!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:02 AM
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18. It's like playing chess with only two kings
And the fetal-alcohol-syndrome-addled 'cowboy' across the table won't tip his king because he vowed before the game "We will be victorious and nothing less will be accepted!"

So you keep playing because as long as you keep playing, you haven't lost yet.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 05:14 PM
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30. That is about the most astute analysis of Bush and Iraq that I have ever read
:thumbsup:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:08 AM
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19. Woohoo! That's some powerful Koolaid.
I wonder what life is like down there in the bunker?
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:13 AM
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20. He's right, we haven't....we failed in the White House. nt
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 03:53 AM
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21. 'We have not failed in Iraq' = They meant to make this mess
It was their intention to get the Middle East into the biggest mess ever.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 05:12 AM
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22. What's next? "We did not lose to Al Gore"?
Since they're in denial mode, they might as well cover everything.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 06:38 AM
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23. What's this "we" shit??
When did that coward ever fight in a war? When did he ever sacrifice a child or urge his children to go fight in Iraq? He's nothing but a two-bit armchair warrior. It's so much easier to conduct a war when you have nothing personal to lose.

Him and his cronies and family sicken me to no end.
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speedingbullet Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 09:32 AM
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27. True Statement?
Maybe "we have not failed" really means that 'we have not finished failing yet, more of this cluster fuck yet to come.'
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 05:04 PM
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28. Didn't everybody see that big "Mission Accomplished" banner? nt
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 05:08 PM
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29. Stephen Hadley is a first class dip shit working for the worst
cocksucker in the history of this country.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 05:27 PM
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31. They have not failed in Iraq. In fact, they've made a killing...
since day 1 their war crimes in Iraq started.

They have not failed to loot the Treasury of the US, as they intended to, long before they fixed the 2000 elections and did everything they could (and still can) to make sure thousands of Americans would pay the price of their immoral defrauding of the US taxpayers with their lives, by willfully ignoring ALL warnings about their incoming (and carefully planned) "new Pearl Harbor" they have not failed to make happen either (yet).

That arrogant co-conspirator is telling the truth (for a change...).

They (the real meaning of the "we" in the headline) have not failed in Iraq.

We, The People, Failed (to hold them accountable for their million crimes).

For how long will we continue to fail at that?
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